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Season 3

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Ever wondered what happens when gun culture meets 80s synth wave aesthetics? Our conversation kicks off with deep dives into custom firearm builds, the psychological differences between "range toys" and last-stand defensive weapons, and the surprisingly satisfying art of spray painting guns in neon retro patterns. 

The world seems perpetually on fire, and we're tracking the hottest flashpoints. From the recent LA riots that featured livestreamed chaos and vehicles ramming through crowds, to the ironically effective "No Kings March" protests that remained relatively peaceful despite tensions. We examine how these events affect public perception of immigration enforcement and deportation policies, noting the striking shift in support from traditionally liberal voices.

The Israel-Iran conflict takes center stage as we break down the missile exchanges, targeted strikes on nuclear facilities, and ominous warnings from both sides. Having grown weary of endless Middle Eastern entanglements, we question America's appropriate role in this powder keg situation. Is this truly the catalyst for World War III, or another chapter in a seemingly eternal regional struggle? We also unpack the surprising historical reasons why Palestinian refugees face rejection from neighboring Muslim countries despite shared religious identity.

Throughout our conversation, we maintain our commitment to independent thinking. Whether you agree with our takes or find yourself shouting counterarguments at your speaker, our goal is to encourage critical examination of these complex issues. The world burns around us, but engaged citizenship requires understanding the fires – even while we paint our guns in technicolor dreams.

What's your perspective on these global flashpoints? Join the conversation and share your thoughts on where America's priorities should lie in these turbulent times.

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00:00 - Custom Gun Builds and Range Toys

04:04 - Welcome to The Mick and Pat Show

07:03 - Spray Painting Guns and Mixed Miscellaneous

15:29 - Firearms Training and Range Practice

23:08 - The Blistering Eternity of Politics

29:29 - LA Riots and Immigration Enforcement

39:39 - Israel, Iran, and Nuclear Tensions

53:29 - The Palestinian Refugee Situation

01:02:16 - False Flags and Conspiracy Theories

01:37:49 - Closing Thoughts and Final Words

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anyway.

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So when I was working on the super safety, which uh, it's not mine, it's you know, I don't know whose it is.

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It was just in my garage, um, but I was working on super safety and, uh, my buddy who was helping me with it was like, yeah, what are you gonna have?

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This just gonna be a range toy fun gun.

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Yeah, what are you going to have?

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This is just going to be a range toy fun gun.

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I was like, nah, dude, this is the they're in the walls gun, this is the.

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You know, like Ruby Ridge, waco, stuff, like Billie Jean's, either like dead and gone or I've already, like you know, she's already been escorted out and the dog's out.

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And then now it's like like, all right, I guess, if they're coming in, like just fucking fill the walls, swiss cheese, you know.

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Because I mean, like what else?

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Like what else?

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Yeah, this isn't gonna be my recce gun.

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I'm not taking this to do like precision 400 meter shots 400 shots 400 meter, yeah, 400 shots 400 shots within one meter.

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One meter but you know, it's also, like you know, my flux, after running the flux with a lot of cqb stuff, that's definitely the the platform, I think, for cqb engagements, where you need to have like discretion and you don't want to worry about over penetration, um, and you also, like you know, quote unquote, indiscretion.

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I mean like, um, it's very covert, right, it's very easy to have that in a backpack and it doesn't print like an ar, whereas, like you know, 12.5 ar with the super safety.

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That's not what I want in a CQB environment where there's a lot of not bad guys.

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So, you know, I think that's probably in my eyes.

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That's my final stand.

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You know what I mean Fun boy gun, because I can't really see a scenario where it's getting used outside of that other than to be like, hey, you guys want to see something cool, yeah, hold this trigger.

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Hold this trigger which scientifically moves forward and resets every single time, but it's going to feel like you're riding a motorcycle, it's going to feel like there's a motorcycle tailpipe between your legs yeah, um.

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Anyways, if you don't understand anything, I was just talking about welcome to the mick and pat show.

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Uh, we're we're talking about a lot of just uh, what do we?

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What do we say?

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We always say it here the zeitgeist.

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We're talking about the stuff in the news and right now Mick's just talking about how he I enjoys working on guns and hanging out having beers with a buddy while dremeling, and you know.

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Polishing.

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Yeah, just making sure things work together, cleaning it up, but I am a law-abiding citizen who is a good swimmer and is very safe with firearms, and I don't break any laws when I'm working on them.

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So if anyone's thinking out there that we're talking about something that sounds illegal, it's actually not illegal.

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It's all legal under federal and state law here.

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Um, I'm a square.

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I'm a square in that, though you can have really fun getting right up to the line yeah, that's what I've learned like without like you don't need to break the law to have fun, but it's most fun right there, right at the line.

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Getting up close to it, gazing over the edge.

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Yeah, and for those of you who don't know what a super safety is, I'll probably have a video on it here soon coming out.

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I have four episodes of Mixed Miscellaneous edited oh nice.

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And the only thing I need to do is decide the order in which I want to release them.

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Two of them are just spray paint your gun episodes, with talking about kind of uh, most popular topics on youtube, essentially right.

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Like I'm just looking at like what's the most common thing video essay that people are watching.

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All right, I'll make a video essay on that, with me spray painting guns in the background, and then the other ones are me shooting guns also video essays.

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Nice, some of those videos are going to be like tutorials on, uh, like basic stage practice, like how to get into competitive shooting and how to like practice on the range, but those will be a lot shorter and a lot more snippety.

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These are kind of long form, turn it on and have something play in the background content as well, like a podcast video essay stuff.

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But yeah, anyways, I'll do one on super safety too, because it was a.

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It was a total bitch to get working.

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It was insane.

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Dude took a few iterations.

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Yeah, I like was dremeling totally ruined, like two dremel bits and uh, a lot of.

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Well, I just had to assemble an ar lower too.

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You just got.

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I had to build out my new lower to test this right.

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Because you kind of want to have a dedicated lower for it.

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It's not a quick swap, yeah, but anyway it's fun, it's good, it's working.

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I'm a happy camper.

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Some other guys on the range today who were there are also happy campers because they got to shoot it too.

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But you have to feel the freedom, yeah the uh.

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How's your uh, your samurai practice going?

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I'll be honest, I haven't done the uh stages practice for the samurai one in a minute on the range.

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I do it still.

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Probably two times a week is when I'm practicing at home dry fire because they're just my go-to practice on the range.

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I've been practicing so I don't look like a fud.

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I've been practicing our uh post certification drills.

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I need to practice that a little more because I don't want to be the guy.

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I'd be like hey, here's the standard.

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And then like fuck it up I've been thinking the same thing myself.

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Hey, I'm going tomorrow.

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I'm taking, I'm taking one of our guys, one of our new guys on the security team to practice.

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Oh nice the fly boy yeah, that guy former fly boy former fly boy.

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Oh, oh, okay, right on, yeah nice that'll be good.

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Which one's the?

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Oh, the actual guy who flies planes.

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Yeah, this guy is the former fix planes that people are flying.

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Yeah, yeah, no, that'll be good.

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Yeah, I need to.

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Like I was saying before I started recording, I've not been hitting it as regularly.

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The life gets in the way of the activities yeah I gotta get back on the that.

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I don't uh, yeah, I don't look like a, like a goofball yeah, but you're also a business owner and you have gone down three employees due to seasonal shifts.

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Yep, they're coming back ish but we're being replenished they're being replenished, but it takes a while.

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And then when you're in the busy season, yep, it's even busier can't just leave work for an hour in the middle of the day and go shoot my gun anymore yep that was a nice, nice amount of time.

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We'll get back to that I do think when you join the range next year, it's gonna be great for our friendship.

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I need it.

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It's I need to fix it again.

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It's broke.

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The spring popped off.

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I fixed it once before.

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Okay, right, uh, it's the uh.

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Our big prop pistol is uh I can't believe you broke this it's not uh um how often?

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how many more times?

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have you shot it than me.

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You come in here and shoot it during the week.

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Oh yeah, you bastard, you bitch.

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How dare you touch her when I'm not around?

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It's a big old prop, uh, lamant reballer, um, but uh, yeah, if you join the range next year, well, in august, and uh, we get to go to the range as much as we want without paying more monies.

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It's gonna be great for our friendship.

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It's gonna be brutal on our wallets.

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We get to go to the range as much as we want without paying more monies it's going to be great for our friendship.

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It's going to be brutal on our wallets.

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The ammunition, yeah and gas, the only thing that keeps me from going more now is not having people to go with.

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Oh yeah, because you don't want to just go by yourself and just blow it, you want to do it and hang out.

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I do like going by myself, but yeah, it is so much more fun to go with someone else and have like someone to practice with.

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And work through stuff together.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so I think I'm ready enough for that post cert firearm.

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Yeah, it won't be hard.

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Honestly, here's the thing.

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Here's it for people don't know what we're talking about.

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Post.

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Post is like the acronym for the Police Officer Standard Training Academy, I think that's what it is.

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Or Police Officer State Training Academy it's the state standards in Colorado for police officer qualifications.

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You go to POST Academy to become a police officer and part of that is you do a firearms qualification.

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Peace Officer Standards and Training.

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That thing officer, and part of that is you do a firearms qualification.

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Peace officer standards and training that thing, um, but it's uh, here's the thing, guys.

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It's really not that hard and you can look up what your state's peace officer standard training is.

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It's probably not going to be called post everywhere, but if you look it up and then you can see what, like the expectation of police are held to to pass a firearms qual, and then you could go like practice that and easily build up the same level of competency that is entrusted in.

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You know, state officers, local County officers, all that, um, now, a lot of cops do that and they don't do anything else.

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And those are the cops who suck at shooting and get people hurt and killed because they don't take it, they don't practice for, you know, the worst day on their job.

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But then there's also a lot of cops who take it very seriously and go above and beyond or are super squared away and freaking tack drivers, um, and those are the dudes who are prepared for the worst day on the job.

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Um, so I'm not saying you do this, you're as good as a cop, equivalent to a cop.

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What I am saying is you do this, it's a good standard, it's a good start yeah, it's a good place to start and then build off of.

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So once you're there and you pass it, you're like, okay, what, what's next?

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Honestly, I want to do like when you become a range member, I want to record us at the range and I want to do every single law enforcement agency like federal agency oh yeah and state agencies.

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Firearms qualification exam see how far up you can get yeah, because I hear the hardest one is the air marshals because of like you have, it's like a lot of headshots I've heard that and uh, the ogs, or like the, basically the contractors for the cia those guys?

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Can we get their standards?

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you can't get the standards of, but I bet we can.

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We can probably like I bet we could, I bet I can pull some strings with some dod guys ask like to get close, you know.

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But I've heard that one's like.

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I've heard guys who are like really good go to that and then they're like oh wow, this is hard yeah, I do.

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Uh, I do have a couple guys who I know are like I used to work with that are former delta and I bet delta's handgun shit is just as hard.

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I don't know that, though, but I would bet I'll see if I can get those quals.

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But I think it is similar to the reason why the US Marshals is hard and I think the reason why that CIA operator contractor one is because it's usually for hostage type stuff or very close environments where it's other innocent people around you, because if you're in a war zone you obviously got to be like on it.

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But there's typically like a line which is like that way is bad, this way is good.

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Yeah.

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You know versus like on a fucking plane.

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Yeah, yeah, 30,000 feet in the air.

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And you got to make it count.

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Yeah, that'd be cool.

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Speaking of which, I just painted my flux.

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Yeah, what do you think about it?

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Is it cool?

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I think it is.

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I think it depends on, like, I think it's cool, right, but I think that you think it's gay.

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No, I think I do.

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I like it.

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I think that it fits the mick and pat show vibe check.

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Yeah, because it's um, it's got some retro looks to it, you know I really wanted it to look like.

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It is.

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Like you know it's coming off of the like 80s taco bell.

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Styrofoam drink cup yeah, that's what it looks like yeah a lot of pink, neon, neon, teal, turquoise, maybe Like Rhodesia brushstroke, but 80s synth wave.

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Yeah, I think it does look cool.

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I think that if someone just I think that if you just posted it online and just were like like a random Reddit page and then just the comments would flow in of, just like I think you'd get a lot of hate for it.

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I'm going to fucking do it.

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I'm not saying it's not cool, I'm going to do it.

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I think it's the coolest thing in the world.

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No, here's the real thing, man.

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Like I just had a vision, like I knew I wanted to do something very synth wave, retro, and at first, I really was just going to do that styrofoam cup design.

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You know I'm talking about where it's like just the z squiggly line, yeah, and it's like teal on the white background, yep, and I was gonna do that, but then I was like that's too basic.

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I still wanted to have like some kind of like pattern to it, and so then I I saw this pattern online, this synth wave camo brushstroke pattern, and I was like all right, and I stared at it for hours trying to figure out how it's late, how its layers were done, you know, and like in the in the image and then.

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So I went out and color matched everything that I could with spray paint and did it, and it was a huge learning curve because, like neon, paint is not great for when you apply a clear coat over it.

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It gets rid of the neon, like all this, like darker stuff.

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Here is where I realized I it was good.

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It was like bright like this neon color and I clear coated over it and it went like a dark, almost like pink purple color.

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Oh, yeah yep, so I had to reapply the neon and stuff, but anyways, I like it a lot.

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I think it's bitchin, and here's my thing.

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Here's, here's the reason I really like it one.

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I didn't know this until afterwards, but it's the same colors as the trans ally flag.

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Oh, yes which I think is camouflage I think it's great camouflage and I think, in case I ever have, social camouflage exactly.

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if I ever have to use this, it's going to get photographed and added to evidence.

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They're gonna be like why'd you paint this?

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Do you think your gun is a toy?

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I'm like no, but I am ally, so let that be said for the record.

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That has no bearing on how I just shot this trans school shooter, like clearly I'm not biased.

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Anyways, dark joke.

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But then the other thing is that I do think it does disguise it from looking like a gun like I think if I pull this up and like you're at 10 yards, it's not gonna look like a gun.

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it'll look like a gun.

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If it goes bang bang, it'll sound like a gun, but I do think it will buy me just another second or two before a cop might pull the trigger and shoot me and give me that time to drop the gun and be like whoa, whoa, I'm a good guy.

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Gun is gone, gun is down on the ground, don't shoot me.

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You know what I mean?

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And ultimately, that's like one thing we realized and we talked about in another episode of ours is like how easy it is to be a good dude with a gun and get shot by other good dudes with guns in the confusion, and I'd like this to prevent that from happening.

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Oh, but, excuse me, I love it.

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There's a video of this that will be going up in another Mixed Miscellaneous where people could see everything I learned in the process and the pattern and style.

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I really do like spray painting guns.

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I think I'm gonna spray paint all my guns.

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oh yeah, there's just something very satisfying about it um, I think that's how you claim it as your own.

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Yeah, and it's like it protects from rust, and there's practical things too, for sure like, like, even the, the first gun I ever got.

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What a Marlin Lever Action 3030.

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Did you spray paint that?

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Well, no.

00:17:08.494 --> 00:17:26.251
Okay, yeah, no, but what I did do was I did take the wood off and sand it down and restain it myself, and also, before I stained it, I just carved my name in the butt, the uh, butt of the grip, nice, of the handle.

00:17:26.251 --> 00:17:40.964
So then when I stained over it and then it just, and then I didn't really let it dry right well enough before I grabbed it and actually held it, but then it just looked really old now, like looked all like there's a slight like wear.

00:17:40.986 --> 00:17:59.164
Yeah, it's all worn where you hold it you know, and now I have like used it a lot but so I just like, anyways, it's got like it's, and now I have used it a lot so I was just like, anyways, it's cool when you have, I don't know, I hope someday someone looks when I'm 80, someone has a gun in my family and looks at the bottom of it and knows they see Pat on the bottom and they're like, oh, that's sick.

00:17:59.164 --> 00:18:00.807
You know, whatever, that was his.

00:18:00.807 --> 00:18:05.392
This got etched in the bottom at the beginning of time.

00:18:05.539 --> 00:18:07.124
Did you etch anything else other than Pat?

00:18:08.607 --> 00:18:08.768
No.

00:18:09.589 --> 00:18:17.287
Do you wonder, like I did hear a story about how someone inherited a gun from their grandfather.

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Oh yeah.

00:18:18.089 --> 00:18:31.834
And scratched on like the like bottom of the revolver's frame was like like something like john's n-word, like dealer.

00:18:31.834 --> 00:18:35.626
Oh my god, it's like what the fuck like?

00:18:35.626 --> 00:18:37.190
Holy shit you're.

00:18:37.770 --> 00:18:54.175
You just got grandpa's heirloom and you find out grandpa was a super racist, bad dude like good gosh, yeah no, where you get or if it's got, you know well if you uh taking some notches in it, you know yeah, that's cool.

00:18:54.576 --> 00:19:10.041
I did think about doing that with all my guns before I sell them, just putting notches in them, it's just so that way, someone's like well, like if I, especially if I like, sell it to a gun store, I'm like, uh, what's the term where, like you, put it up for sale in the gun store, they get a little consignment, because I'm yeah if I do consignment.

00:19:10.041 --> 00:19:12.929
Yeah, if you put notches on a gun, it's gonna sell so fast.

00:19:12.969 --> 00:19:18.368
I know I just the way I feel about notches is the same way I feel about like getting teardrop tattoos.

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You better have done it you know that's awesome.

00:19:22.826 --> 00:19:25.715
Yeah, that's a big dog just claiming it.

00:19:25.756 --> 00:19:30.086
You know it's a big, you better done it, oh yeah we also brought.

00:19:30.246 --> 00:19:35.002
well, I brought um, which I didn't even think about it, but look it kind of matches my.

00:19:35.002 --> 00:19:36.307
It does match it all.

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Right, if you want to know the paint job of my gun, my flux, look up blistering eternity by true.

00:19:42.027 --> 00:19:46.454
That's ironic, I didn't expect it, but that is like one-to-one color match.

00:19:46.454 --> 00:19:51.309
This is an IPA, a new IPA by True.

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I don't think they've had it come out before seasonally and we're not doing a review or anything crazy, but it's a classic True IPA.

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Troubadour Truth, rawr, north Star Pills, flaked Oats, 7% alcohol, brewed in Wheat Ridge, colorado.

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I don't know who was in Wheat Ridge, I guess I thought the Denver taproom was also the brewery.

00:20:14.270 --> 00:20:20.028
But I've had one of these already.

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Like a couple days ago I thought it was a really good IPA.

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I can't remember if it has much of a fruit flavor, but it's pretty good and something to enjoy while we talk about politics.

00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:36.398
The blistering eternity of politics.

00:20:36.398 --> 00:20:37.980
The blistering eternity of politics.

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The question is is the rest of eternity on this earth going to be blistering due to the lack of?

00:20:46.189 --> 00:20:46.509
You know?

00:20:46.509 --> 00:20:57.241
Atmosphere and uh and when you walk around you're like denzel in book of eli, just just hoping to get some cat grease.

00:20:57.241 --> 00:21:01.932
Just need some cat grease to put on your on your lips uh, because you're.

00:21:02.340 --> 00:21:14.161
It's actually a phenomenal song by the postal service do you know that song we'll play it because I don't think it'll get copyrighted at this point all right let me pull it up and I'll.

00:21:14.161 --> 00:21:17.585
I'll pause my other music, but uh, do you know who the postal service was?

00:21:17.605 --> 00:21:32.051
a band um excuse me, um and uh.

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The reason they're called the postal service is because all the band members were in different states during college, okay, and they would record their parts and their tracks and their lines and then mail them all to the lead singer to mix.

00:21:45.571 --> 00:21:48.905
And so they were called the postal service, cause that's how the band existed.

00:21:48.905 --> 00:21:49.748
Yeah.

00:21:51.553 --> 00:22:14.349
Um, but they have a quite a few like really great songs in my opinion, um, and I think they only have technically two albums before uh Ben, the lead singer, created or helped found uh death cab for cutie which a lot of the members from the postal service joined them in.

00:22:14.691 --> 00:22:21.171
Okay, um, but I do believe that such great heights if I, oh no, we will become silhouettes.

00:22:21.171 --> 00:22:22.093
Yeah, that makes sense.

00:22:22.093 --> 00:22:25.929
Um, so I'll play.

00:22:25.929 --> 00:22:27.573
Uh, I'll play this here for us.

00:22:27.573 --> 00:22:37.810
Some great lyrics here as it's coming.

00:22:37.810 --> 00:22:44.409
But it's like a classic, I don't know, cold War family picture in this music video.

00:22:44.409 --> 00:22:46.126
Right, you guys should just look it up and watch the video.

00:22:46.126 --> 00:22:52.912
But this whole song is about, like the nuclear apocalypse.

00:22:52.912 --> 00:22:53.733
Hmm.

00:23:03.761 --> 00:23:12.699
And I'm looking through the glass when the light bends at the cracks, and I'm screaming at the top of my lungs, pretending the echoes belong to God.

00:23:12.699 --> 00:23:14.567
So he's talking about being in the bunker.

00:23:14.567 --> 00:23:18.490
Right, he's alone in the bunker, having survived the apocalypse.

00:23:18.490 --> 00:23:32.468
He's pretending that the voices are his friends and family from before the bombs fell, when we become Silhouettes, where our bodies finally go.

00:23:32.468 --> 00:23:45.648
You know, because Adam Bonds turned you to silhouette on concrete, I'm going to keep on letting it play in the background, but there's quite a few great lyrics in here and it's like that weird optimistic tone.

00:23:45.648 --> 00:23:52.691
And then there's lines like when our bodies disassemble at a molecular level.

00:23:55.467 --> 00:23:57.144
It does sound a little bit like Owl City.

00:23:58.448 --> 00:23:59.109
Just shut your mouth.

00:23:59.109 --> 00:24:02.622
Owl City cannot hold a candle to this band.

00:24:02.622 --> 00:24:05.140
I mean like that light vibe.

00:24:05.140 --> 00:24:09.090
There's no emo wah-wah, whiny sound.

00:24:09.090 --> 00:24:12.766
I think it sounds like it a little bit.

00:24:12.766 --> 00:24:15.151
Give me my beer back, I'm going home.

00:24:15.151 --> 00:24:18.065
Give me my beer back, I do like it.

00:24:18.339 --> 00:24:19.625
Fix my toy revolver.

00:24:19.625 --> 00:24:22.467
Give me my beer back, we could record next week.

00:24:22.467 --> 00:24:29.760
Oh man, dude, that's so offensive to me that I hate owl city.

00:24:30.163 --> 00:24:44.308
Um, anyways, uh, they have another really good song that is pretty good about, uh, essentially the uh, complacency and potential like scheme of climate control.

00:24:46.431 --> 00:25:07.121
Uh, as well, as, it's like that song, as well as the tangent of like um, the jfk assassination, and that the jfk, the jfk assassination, has so much like confusion and conspiracy around it that what if the like truth is just that, a truth, a simple truth?

00:25:08.182 --> 00:25:40.105
Um, in the lines like, uh, you know, um gosh I'm trying to remember how it starts uh, um, he's like a man, uh, bored and slightly confused, just alone with something to prove, and he became famous on that day in November I think it's like along those lines, right when he pulled the trigger and sent Bullet to sender and it was, and it's essentially like, just like, how, like that is that thing.

00:25:40.105 --> 00:25:48.148
And then, like you know, the US government tells us like, hey, we should drive our cars less and stuff like that.

00:25:48.148 --> 00:25:56.104
Um, and we should feel good about, you know, the like little bit of like pollution, um, preventative nature.

00:25:56.104 --> 00:26:04.208
We do, he's like, but on the upside, even though that's not doing anything, at least the weather's changed so much that we can swim any day in November and I'm like.

00:26:04.208 --> 00:26:04.549
That's kind of a.

00:26:04.569 --> 00:26:08.807
At least the weather's changed so much that we can swim any day in November and I'm like that's kind of a neat lyric Right.

00:26:08.807 --> 00:26:08.968
And.

00:26:08.968 --> 00:26:09.189
I was.

00:26:09.189 --> 00:26:20.594
Anyways, all of the songs are kind of like, uh, that like mid two thousands, like uh, post-cold war, uh, reflection songs, right they're.

00:26:20.594 --> 00:26:41.595
They're all like reflections from like a gen, like a millennial, old millennial, on like hey, this is like the world we're inheriting pretty much, and like you gotta have like grim realism about like the post-cold war environment, while also like being able to make kind of like light jokes about it.

00:26:41.765 --> 00:26:46.614
Such as like very upbeat positive song about the end of the world in a nuclear apocalypse.

00:26:46.614 --> 00:26:50.714
Upbeat positive song about JFK assassination and climate change.

00:26:50.714 --> 00:26:56.857
Anyways, sorry, I just you're talking about.

00:26:56.857 --> 00:26:57.321
We Got Out of.

00:26:57.321 --> 00:27:02.031
This Tangent and that song really reminds me of how I feel about all of this going on.

00:27:02.553 --> 00:27:05.107
Yeah, yeah, We've had the last.

00:27:05.107 --> 00:27:06.894
Last week we've had a few things.

00:27:06.894 --> 00:27:10.814
What's hit was kind of kicking off with some of those.

00:27:10.814 --> 00:27:13.669
The LA riots were looking pretty, pretty wild.

00:27:13.669 --> 00:27:14.673
You know a little bit.

00:27:14.673 --> 00:27:22.929
And then we had the no Kings March in America, Then also then the biggest, or you know definitely most violent you know what I tell you, man?

00:27:22.929 --> 00:27:26.778
Glad we still don't have a king it's crazy how effective that was.

00:27:27.867 --> 00:27:32.247
I don't think I've ever seen a protest as effective as no kings march, because I it's.

00:27:32.247 --> 00:27:34.916
I can't find a king in america anywhere.

00:27:34.936 --> 00:27:38.268
It's super effective, like getting your covid booster I really thought.

00:27:38.407 --> 00:27:39.130
I really thought.

00:27:39.130 --> 00:27:48.028
I thought that after the no kings march, maybe we wouldn't have kings at a federal, nationwide level, but there'd still be like little state kings.

00:27:48.028 --> 00:27:50.054
Yeah, we don't.

00:27:50.054 --> 00:27:51.818
There's not even the county king.

00:27:51.818 --> 00:27:52.601
It's.

00:27:52.601 --> 00:27:53.523
It's pretty wild.

00:27:53.523 --> 00:27:55.807
The only king I know is king supers.

00:27:55.807 --> 00:27:58.231
Yeah, it's a local joke.

00:27:58.251 --> 00:28:00.255
Uh, uh, but it was.

00:28:00.255 --> 00:28:02.679
Uh, yeah, no, I agree it was.

00:28:02.679 --> 00:28:03.279
It was kind of.

00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:12.769
I was very actually I I don't always do this, but when I do, I try to make sure it's as positive of a thing as possible.

00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:16.476
But, uh, the internet's pretty liberal.

00:28:16.476 --> 00:28:38.275
Reddit is super flaming liberal and basically as far left as you could go before you start breaking the law, and they posted a bunch of stuff about how it was actually pretty peaceful throughout Colorado's locations of the no Kings protests and I just took a time to like comment on them.

00:28:38.424 --> 00:28:45.053
Like, hey, even though I might not politically agree, it's super cool to see a positive, peaceful protest.

00:28:45.053 --> 00:28:50.308
Um, thank you for being peaceful, thank you for not destroying people's property.

00:28:50.308 --> 00:28:58.380
Uh, very happy that there are police present to you know react if anything happened and that they didn't have to do anything.

00:28:58.380 --> 00:28:59.788
They just got to stand around all day.

00:28:59.788 --> 00:29:07.210
Uh, and I got like very, you know, some people were like, oh, you disagree politically, that's what they latched on to, right?

00:29:07.210 --> 00:29:09.395
But a lot of people were like, yeah, thanks for saying that.

00:29:09.395 --> 00:29:16.645
It's cool to know like you guys appreciate our right to do this without it being like having to be contentious.

00:29:16.645 --> 00:29:19.532
Um, I was very thankful.

00:29:19.532 --> 00:29:22.218
I was expecting it to get way worse in denver.

00:29:22.218 --> 00:29:24.471
You know what I mean.

00:29:24.913 --> 00:29:34.557
So very thankful that it didn't get that bad because, since it was coming on the heels of the la riots, yeah, which are, you know like those were the.

00:29:34.557 --> 00:29:41.136
I mean I was texting you that night when I sat there, I sat on youtube for three hours yeah, and then what?

00:29:41.136 --> 00:29:45.719
You went to bed for an hour and a half yeah, I came into bed for a short hour, was that before I woke?

00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.935
up to fly but I was so locked in so what was happening?

00:29:48.935 --> 00:29:51.265
So I was just like scrolling youtube shorts, whatever.

00:29:51.265 --> 00:29:53.269
And then, I guess you know the same happens.

00:29:53.269 --> 00:29:56.226
All of a sudden it's like a live video is playing on my youtube short.

00:29:56.226 --> 00:30:02.209
So I'm like and it's like most of the time, like when like a live video pops up, it's like some dude just like playing his guitar, really bad.

00:30:02.209 --> 00:30:11.830
Or it's like some like random guy, like it's just like the most like the YouTube live world is very random and super weird, super weird.

00:30:11.830 --> 00:30:13.115
But this was all like.

00:30:13.770 --> 00:30:21.594
This was something was actually happening in this and it was a guy was in LA filming, just walking around filming the riots and the sun was.

00:30:21.594 --> 00:30:23.406
And it was a guy was uh in la filming, uh, just walking around filming the riots and the sun was up.

00:30:23.406 --> 00:30:39.199
It was like 7 pm when he was there and uh, there was what caught my eye was it said live, but there was three cop cars uh, beneath an overpass with about 300 people surrounding the top of the.

00:30:39.199 --> 00:30:47.154
They were up on the overpass hucking stuff down at the cop cars like bottles, traffic cones and big fireworks.

00:30:47.154 --> 00:30:49.705
They're throwing big fireworks down in the smoking.

00:30:49.705 --> 00:30:50.647
So I start watching this.

00:30:50.688 --> 00:31:27.568
It's just this young kid um, probably 19 year old kid and I watched for three hours straight and there was really not much of a dull moment for three hours and during this, because as he was running to like also all the people who were like on the live he has a pretty small channel, like maybe a couple, like maybe 20K subscribers or whatever, but he had like 7, 000 people on live watching him and they were people were commenting in like where stuff was happening and he would like run over there and go check it out.

00:31:27.568 --> 00:31:31.605
Um, so it was like live reporting from like whatever people wanted to see.

00:31:31.605 --> 00:31:52.248
He'd run and go show you and, um, I mean, there was uh, uh, lines are starting to form and he's there's, there's people ripping, railing out of the ground and building a barricade as horse, as police officers on horses and like and guys in right gear marching forward, and he's like right there next to it.

00:31:52.248 --> 00:32:03.509
And then people are throwing big fireworks into the crowd, into the crowd of police officers, but the horses are scattering like it's kind of mayhem.

00:32:03.509 --> 00:32:08.018
There's I saw a lady get shot with rubber bullets, like it was all.

00:32:08.219 --> 00:32:13.536
It was like all the highlights of the riot were just in this three hour kids video.

00:32:13.536 --> 00:32:20.655
He even then at some point somebody who was against the riots ran over a person in the road.

00:32:21.135 --> 00:32:22.740
I saw that one, yeah, was it a minivan.

00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:36.074
Well, I saw the one where the minivan it was a van but that van was an undercover, like FBI van and they were shuttling someone they had arrested.

00:32:36.074 --> 00:32:40.924
Oh, this was, and like this person was like trying to stop that van from moving and that van ran him over.

00:32:40.924 --> 00:32:43.090
And then I did see a couple other videos.

00:32:43.090 --> 00:32:45.946
I don't know, they didn't, they weren't when the day you sent it to me.

00:32:46.669 --> 00:33:12.673
There's just a couple of ones coming up the last couple days where people got clipped and ran over by cars because they were trying to block them this was like a random guy and he was in a intersection and he puts his he like, he kind of like people wouldn't let him through, he kind of bumped him and then he just puts it in reverse and he's just going doing reverse like donuts and while he's reverse donating on this live youtube stream, people are just hucking stuff at the windows, blew out all the windows of this car.

00:33:12.673 --> 00:33:16.326
After he, he, the person who got quote unquote ran over.

00:33:16.326 --> 00:33:19.317
They walked, they stood up and walked away and ran after him.

00:33:19.317 --> 00:33:23.032
But, um, I mean, it was crazy, they were, they were the I was.

00:33:23.032 --> 00:33:24.378
I thought I was about to watch the mob.

00:33:24.479 --> 00:33:28.352
Get this guy really I mean and they were blowing out all the windows in his car.

00:33:28.352 --> 00:33:39.247
He drove off and it just I was like, oh, my goodness, like so, and the fact that all that was happening on this one like uh, whatever, youtube live stream.

00:33:39.267 --> 00:33:50.711
I was like how many things are going on all over what's weird, man, is that every time you sent me that video link, I would open it and I thought it was boring as hell I would just close it.

00:33:50.711 --> 00:34:03.169
Yeah, but I think you know the reason I think that stuff is I'm pretty desensitized because I watched the live streams from within chaz oh yeah and that was like watching people get shot with real bullets.

00:34:03.169 --> 00:34:13.782
That was watching people like beat the shit out of each other oh yeah, and the name of liberal unity right this is the craziest thing and, uh, the amount.

00:34:13.802 --> 00:34:17.070
I think it was something like 13 people who got shot and killed in chas.

00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:20.655
It's wild yeah, in like the two weeks it ran.

00:34:20.655 --> 00:34:31.414
I will never forget, though, just like watching them plant the garden, like our community garden and food center, and then watching the homeless just coming no, they stole it all.

00:34:31.715 --> 00:34:41.025
Some homeless people came up and stole all the food and all this and then, like, they went to twitter and they're like please, any other volunteers come and help and supply us with food.

00:34:41.025 --> 00:34:44.253
It's all been stolen and it's like by our comrades?

00:34:44.253 --> 00:34:47.244
No shit it's like you dumbasses, oh dude.

00:34:47.244 --> 00:34:48.469
It was the funniest thing in the world.

00:34:48.469 --> 00:34:54.597
I felt bad for the people who died, but at the same time I was like you shouldn't have been you should have not been in there.

00:34:54.657 --> 00:34:57.347
You guys should not have just been like you guys.

00:34:57.347 --> 00:35:05.672
The moment some dude came in and was a like self-proclaimed rapper and also your self-proclaimed governor yeah, like dude.

00:35:05.672 --> 00:35:15.606
A guy walked in I don't know, I can't remember his name, but he was like I'm in charge and like everyone was like okay like it was like that's what people started dying.

00:35:15.668 --> 00:35:18.514
It was, it was like a faction of the walking dead it was.

00:35:18.514 --> 00:35:20.309
It's like it's also, guys, don't you realize?

00:35:20.309 --> 00:35:21.833
The rest of America is just doing its thing.

00:35:22.346 --> 00:35:23.751
Everyone else is like I'm going to work.

00:35:25.306 --> 00:35:29.516
How are you going to exist in this street corner?

00:35:29.764 --> 00:35:33.692
Yeah, the Chaz Chop saga will always be like.

00:35:33.692 --> 00:35:37.559
I swear they're trying to erase it, because I've already talked to people who don't remember it.

00:35:37.958 --> 00:35:38.260
Oh yeah.

00:35:38.344 --> 00:35:39.668
I'm like, how do you not remember it?

00:35:39.668 --> 00:36:01.659
That was the most, that was the closest thing to a real insurrection we've had in the last like five years, ten years, oh yeah, like that was more insurrection than january 6th, my opinion oh yeah, because it was an established zone where they were willing to kill police and then they were killing people in the zone.

00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.690
I'm like, come on, like, let's be real.

00:36:04.690 --> 00:36:06.353
Who died in the january six?

00:36:06.353 --> 00:36:08.518
Shit call a spade a spade man who died.

00:36:08.518 --> 00:36:11.389
A couple cops who suicided.

00:36:11.389 --> 00:36:16.559
One cop had a heart attack I heard from from and like, running he was.

00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.492
He overexerted himself, which honestly not not surprising.

00:36:19.532 --> 00:36:20.353
I've seen a lot of DC cops.

00:36:20.353 --> 00:36:21.657
One girl got shot by the cops.

00:36:22.485 --> 00:36:25.291
And one woman was shot by Secret Service and killed.

00:36:25.291 --> 00:36:26.233
Which tragedy.

00:36:26.233 --> 00:36:27.838
She should not have been shot and killed.

00:36:27.838 --> 00:36:34.222
There was no one who was armed in the Capitol building.

00:36:34.222 --> 00:36:35.931
There's no one who was armed in the Capitol building.

00:36:35.931 --> 00:36:37.572
I don't think there's any reason to shoot and kill.

00:36:37.824 --> 00:36:39.170
And should they have stormed in there?

00:36:39.592 --> 00:36:45.427
No, but was it like a takeover?

00:36:45.427 --> 00:36:46.170
No, but they were also invited.

00:36:46.170 --> 00:36:47.255
You know, that's the crazy thing.

00:36:47.255 --> 00:36:53.028
It's like they stormed up the stairs and then the Capitol security was like okay, like come on in and just go that way, yeah, and I was just like what the fuck?

00:36:53.028 --> 00:36:59.978
Anyway, I just see that and I see videos of Chaz and I'm like this was the craziest thing that happened in my lifetime.

00:36:59.978 --> 00:37:06.836
Probably was the Chaz chop zone, um, and then I guess I just saw all this stuff in LA and I was just like waiting with breath.

00:37:06.836 --> 00:37:07.648
I'm like, yeah, but when?

00:37:07.648 --> 00:37:08.532
When's Chaz 2?

00:37:08.532 --> 00:37:09.909
When's Chaz chop 2?

00:37:09.909 --> 00:37:14.987
And uh, I guess it's kind of getting close in Seattle, dude, like the Seattle Portland area.

00:37:15.849 --> 00:37:32.134
I've watched quite a few videos of the cops straight up running away with like out maintaining formation oh my gosh and being overwhelmed by a crowd, and I'm just like damn, seattle and Portland police suck, like they are terrible at their jobs.

00:37:32.134 --> 00:37:36.356
I always feel bad when I see the Seattle police roll up on bikes and they're like bike suits.

00:37:36.356 --> 00:37:37.971
They're like stop, do not cross, return your vehicles.

00:37:37.971 --> 00:37:38.614
And like they're like slamming.

00:37:38.614 --> 00:37:40.262
They're like stop, do not cross, return your vehicles.

00:37:40.262 --> 00:37:48.259
And like they're like slamming their bikes on the ground I was like dude, I, oh man, if I was a rider, your ass be beat, bro.

00:37:48.259 --> 00:37:52.693
Like you, you ain't stopping nobody with your bicycle dog.

00:37:52.693 --> 00:37:56.847
Yeah I, bike cops are the least intimidating force and it's.

00:37:57.168 --> 00:38:02.193
It's gotta be scary, yeah, on that end of things, mine it's literally like this.

00:38:02.335 --> 00:38:04.938
Everything about me is based on balance.

00:38:05.117 --> 00:38:08.262
It's like 21 Jump Street in the scene where there are bike cops in the beginning.

00:38:08.262 --> 00:38:08.943
Yeah, in the park.

00:38:08.963 --> 00:38:11.552
Yeah, they're just like such a joke.

00:38:11.552 --> 00:38:14.293
They lose their mind when they get like their first arrest.

00:38:14.293 --> 00:38:17.132
Oh yeah, just kids dealing drugs or something.

00:38:17.132 --> 00:38:18.106
Yeah.

00:38:19.028 --> 00:38:28.556
Anyways, all I said, I do think it's pretty crazy, I do think it's sad the damage that was caused and how awful the treatment of people treating their communities.

00:38:28.556 --> 00:38:39.293
I do think, though, that this is pretty impactful, because this just made everybody, I think, who was like I don't know, is it bad or good?

00:38:39.293 --> 00:39:03.170
I'm not really pro people coming here and taking advantage of the system and, you know, not paying in to contribute to America, and I definitely am not pro, like you know, bad people who are criminals coming over here illegally, but I don't know if I really agree with like rounding them up and deporting them, and this is like this is not Mick's opinion, this is, you know, I really agree with like rounding them up and deporting them, and I'm and this is like this is not Mick's opinion, this is you know.

00:39:03.291 --> 00:39:08.030
I'm just saying people in defense, people who are like I didn't really like it when Obama did it.

00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:09.775
I don't really like it that Trump's doing it.

00:39:09.775 --> 00:39:15.478
You know people who are like in that camp, I think they saw this and they're like, well, get them all out.

00:39:15.478 --> 00:39:18.070
I think all of them are now on the other side.

00:39:18.070 --> 00:39:20.195
All of them are like yeah, get them out.

00:39:20.195 --> 00:39:31.490
Like so many people I saw who I never thought and I'll say this I'm not a proponent of deploying military to do policing, so like I was not a fan of the deployment of the Marines and National Guard.

00:39:32.090 --> 00:39:36.967
I understand why it happened and the precedent for it.

00:39:36.967 --> 00:39:41.190
I just still am one of those people who think like the military is not a good policing agency.

00:39:41.190 --> 00:39:50.713
But, all that said, there was a lot of people I know who were very pro for it that I would have never thought would have ended up there.

00:39:50.713 --> 00:40:00.092
People who are lifelong Democrats would describe themselves as liberal and they're like, yeah, it's got to get this under control.

00:40:00.092 --> 00:40:00.965
These people.

00:40:00.965 --> 00:40:11.916
These are clearly just like a criminal faction that needs to go, like they have no care for our country, um, and I was like, damn, yeah, that's crazy bad behavior.

00:40:11.916 --> 00:40:12.717
Pushed them over.

00:40:12.717 --> 00:40:18.168
Um, so all I said I thought it was pretty fascinating.

00:40:18.168 --> 00:40:23.032
Was there anything I don't recall like deaths?

00:40:23.032 --> 00:40:40.230
I don't think there was like any reported like people died right, like there was no cop that ended up getting killed right In any of this from what I understand and I don't remember there being like any actual shootouts or anything like that anywhere- Not like everything that I'm looking up.

00:40:40.250 --> 00:40:43.791
When I look up deaths of LA riots is the Rodney King stuff you?

00:40:43.791 --> 00:40:45.672
Know A lot of people died during that.

00:40:45.672 --> 00:40:50.333
Yeah, 63 people died in that and 2,000 were injured and 12,000 arrested.

00:40:50.353 --> 00:40:51.804
I bet it was more than 63, bro.

00:40:52.065 --> 00:40:52.567
You know what I mean.

00:40:52.567 --> 00:40:54.213
I bet a lot of people just weren't found.

00:40:54.554 --> 00:41:03.132
Yeah, yeah, but the um, yeah, yeah, I think so is it was a relatively peaceful protest in that sense?

00:41:03.152 --> 00:41:16.056
yeah, they just burned a few cars and threw some explosives at cops and, you know, ripped up stuff out of the ground, but um, it's crazy that stuff happens like that in la and all that you never see people doing that shit in florida, where the cops are like I'll fucking kill you did.

00:41:16.077 --> 00:41:19.833
You see that one, yeah, yeah, it's always that sheriff that says stuff.

00:41:19.833 --> 00:41:29.068
He's like if you point a weapon at us, if you throw a brick at us, we will be notifying your family when to pick up your remains.

00:41:29.068 --> 00:41:30.527
It's like oh my gosh bro.

00:41:30.989 --> 00:41:31.731
And what he's told.

00:41:31.731 --> 00:41:37.411
He's like all Floridian drivers you have permission to run people over, even if it kills them.

00:41:37.411 --> 00:41:42.695
And I was like holy, basically just deputized the fucking county.

00:41:42.695 --> 00:41:48.675
He's like y'all get to run bitches over deputized it's crazy, oh my goodness.

00:41:49.717 --> 00:41:54.367
And I do think with the, the mass deportation stuff is going on.

00:41:54.367 --> 00:42:14.666
What I do think is unfortunate about the approach would be I do think it's a quantitative, not qualitative approach, meaning like and they are again ICE and stuff is targeting like known like gang members and stuff too, but it's still like.

00:42:14.666 --> 00:42:17.010
I do feel like probably at the top.

00:42:17.010 --> 00:42:26.596
It's like and it's been like you know, put out from Trump and stuff too, like you know, talking about it as if being like this is the largest in history of mankind.

00:42:26.596 --> 00:42:32.365
This is going to be the biggest, you know and there is crazy, because it's still like what?

00:42:32.706 --> 00:42:36.134
4 million behind Obama for his second admin.

00:42:36.153 --> 00:42:37.077
Is that how many pulled out?

00:42:37.077 --> 00:42:37.737
We'll have to look it up.

00:42:37.737 --> 00:42:39.492
I really have no idea for him.

00:42:39.492 --> 00:42:45.507
I second admin said how many pulled out.

00:42:45.507 --> 00:42:45.994
Well, to look it up, I I I really have no idea for him.

00:42:45.994 --> 00:42:46.688
Obama got eight million in his four years deported.

00:42:46.688 --> 00:42:46.858
He just kind of was.

00:42:46.858 --> 00:42:51.842
No one gave two, he just kept it, kept it cool and talked to talk to his cool talk, and that was the craziest part about trump's first admin is like he was maintained.

00:42:51.862 --> 00:42:56.228
He was just keeping up with it uh-huh like his first admin, he just maintained the border policy.

00:42:56.228 --> 00:43:02.688
Everyone was like he's separating parents from children at the border, and trump was like that's it.

00:43:02.847 --> 00:43:03.590
That's just what we were doing.

00:43:03.590 --> 00:43:04.592
That's obama's policy.

00:43:04.592 --> 00:43:04.974
I showed up.

00:43:04.974 --> 00:43:06.445
We're still doing that.

00:43:06.445 --> 00:43:25.849
We're just doing what he's been doing it was crazy how the narrative changed for sure, and I think that, um, some of like there's been, like there's a handful of people who have been like grabbed, who maybe shouldn't have been or whatever, or like have made their cases like have gotten really big, and so people have latched on to those, and I do think that I still haven't found one.

00:43:25.889 --> 00:43:26.371
That was true.

00:43:27.166 --> 00:43:28.190
That's what I was about to say.

00:43:28.190 --> 00:43:41.710
I don't think that like I think they've been latched on to quite a bit, but I do think in general you do have to be careful if you're going for just numbers, not quality meaning like I'd rather have like 50.

00:43:41.990 --> 00:43:42.371
Venezuelans.

00:43:42.371 --> 00:43:49.525
You'd rather have Jose and his family, who are good people that want to contribute to their community.

00:43:50.126 --> 00:43:57.141
Stay here and give some Venezuelan gang member, whatever than like Muerto.

00:43:57.201 --> 00:44:07.815
Blanco, who's got black teardrops on his eyes and he doesn't work a job, right, right and he goes to jose and extorts jose's day money exactly, exactly.

00:44:07.855 --> 00:44:18.427
So I think that's where you got to be careful with the going for the, the, that the the mass deport versus like focused and I'm not running the show, I don't know what they aren't doing.

00:44:18.427 --> 00:44:20.753
I'm sure there's a lot of people are very like.

00:44:20.753 --> 00:44:25.041
Uh, there are people out there who are conscious of that.

00:44:25.041 --> 00:44:34.387
But during his two terms in office, the obama administration formally removed approximately 3.1 million non-citizens from the united states I'm.

00:44:34.487 --> 00:44:52.132
I saw an eight million number somewhere, right, but even still, I mean, that's still, that's still a lot, that's still a trumpette now um, let's see, um, I'm looking it up um, and the, how much has he done?

00:44:52.554 --> 00:44:57.365
and so I think that also part of it being just like, the approach matters too.

00:44:57.365 --> 00:45:11.469
Like remember the I showed you that and I mean I talked about it on the show but the Instagram video I showed you it was the ASMR video of like deporting illegals that was put out by like the White House.

00:45:11.469 --> 00:45:13.293
Did I show you that?

00:45:14.637 --> 00:45:14.797
Yeah.

00:45:15.931 --> 00:45:16.985
That was not good optics.

00:45:17.606 --> 00:45:19.012
Yeah, it's like guys like don't.

00:45:20.568 --> 00:45:22.514
That's not helping any of the cause here.

00:45:22.514 --> 00:45:28.411
They say it's difficult to ascertain.

00:45:28.411 --> 00:45:31.726
On the old AI, I got another one here from NPR I think.

00:45:31.746 --> 00:45:32.949
No, not NPR Migration policy.

00:45:32.949 --> 00:45:35.592
That's estimating around 5 mil, okay.

00:45:35.592 --> 00:45:41.141
I think no, not NPR migration policy.

00:45:41.141 --> 00:45:44.184
That's like estimating around five mil, okay.

00:45:44.184 --> 00:45:48.096
So I don't know, I don't know what the consensus and you know what.

00:45:48.157 --> 00:46:30.213
Maybe the numbers of deported versus illegal immigrants deported is different, like maybe people were here illegally and then got deported because they broke the law right, but uh, I do think, you know, in general, I don't think that it's historically, it's not like we've, we've, uh, this isn't, it's not unheard of to not let people in your country who aren't, who don't come through the legal channels, and that's, that's not just American history, no, and that's current history anywhere else in the world.

00:46:30.253 --> 00:46:37.460
So it's like, and you know, the craziest thing to me was when I was in Norway yeah, I was working with some.

00:46:37.460 --> 00:46:39.849
Uh, when I was in Norway yeah, I was working with some asylum seekers in Norway.

00:46:39.849 --> 00:46:40.572
Oh yeah.

00:46:41.476 --> 00:46:50.583
And immigrants to Norway that were sent to Norway by the European Union and stuff, mm-hmm, and they were telling me about the classes in Norway.

00:46:50.583 --> 00:47:01.701
And Norway says like you have to assimilate in Norway to Norwegian culture and if you fail the assimilation test they will kick you out, which is insane.

00:47:01.701 --> 00:47:09.942
Like norway has classes for muslim men to re-educate them on, like the standards of treatment of women in norwegian culture.

00:47:09.942 --> 00:47:19.987
And if they don't agree and sign like the paperwork saying like I understand how, like I'm expected to treat women and all that, they fail and they get deported.

00:47:19.987 --> 00:47:26.818
Yep, which I'm like, good bro, like if you were moving somewhere for a better life.

00:47:26.818 --> 00:47:29.423
You need to assimilate to that culture.

00:47:30.646 --> 00:47:39.737
Wherever you're coming from, that culture clearly has issues that nation has has issues You're leaving Wherever you're going.

00:47:39.737 --> 00:47:46.661
The craziest thing is like here's my biggest thing, right, here's the way I view it, because people are like no, no, but culture is important and all that.

00:47:46.661 --> 00:47:48.306
I'm like it is, it is, it is important, right.

00:47:48.306 --> 00:47:57.847
But imagine I walk into Pat's house, I'm a guest in Pat's home, I'm the guest in your home and we're getting ready to do dinner.

00:47:57.847 --> 00:48:00.018
What's dinner?

00:48:00.018 --> 00:48:03.481
Look like in the Pat household with little Pat, little Pat 2, little Patricia and Mace Windu.

00:48:04.838 --> 00:48:05.601
On a good dinner night.

00:48:05.601 --> 00:48:17.722
We've got some asparagus bread and some rare to medium rare steaks, Some baked potatoes, and we sit down and we also.

00:48:17.722 --> 00:48:22.668
When we sit down, we pray before we do it Nice, and then we pass the food around and we eat.

00:48:22.849 --> 00:48:25.516
Yeah, uh, now imagine that's happening.

00:48:25.516 --> 00:48:42.516
And if Mace Windu or the children reached for that food before I did, and I slapped them as a guest in your house, and then you and you were like whoa, mick, what the fuck?

00:48:42.516 --> 00:48:46.626
And I just like, oh, in my culture I get to eat first.

00:48:46.626 --> 00:48:53.443
Yeah, children and women get to eat second, don't you agree, man, we're men, we should get our helpings and eat first.

00:48:53.443 --> 00:48:55.347
Right, like, like.

00:48:55.347 --> 00:49:00.961
And then you'd be like okay, well, well, in my household I beat your ass, my kids, you know what I mean.

00:49:00.961 --> 00:49:08.355
Yeah, like, that's, that's what it'd be like and like I just don't understand how that doesn't apply to immigrants of any kind.

00:49:08.355 --> 00:49:20.260
Like, if I'm an immigrant from here to Asia, guess what, I'm a guest there.

00:49:20.260 --> 00:49:23.500
I just really am, even if I disagree with it.

00:49:23.500 --> 00:49:36.827
I tell you what if Billie Jean and I went to Middle Eastern country and we were moving through other areas of the Middle East that weren't, maybe, as quote unquote progressive, she'd be covered up in that, khalifa dude.

00:49:42.398 --> 00:49:43.119
Dude, is it Khalifa that?

00:49:43.438 --> 00:49:43.940
as in whiz.

00:49:43.940 --> 00:49:45.882
Yeah, not khalifa uh, what is it?

00:49:45.882 --> 00:50:04.000
Uh, kafia, yeah, damn, that was that would give me cancer um no, uh, yeah the like, but like she would be covered up for sure, and I'm just like yeah, because you know why we're in someone else's home and these are their expectations even though, honey, you're a beautiful person and, yes, I get how this is oppressive.

00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.978
Do not talk to me unless I speak to you do we have to follow that one?

00:50:08.018 --> 00:50:08.298
okay?

00:50:09.222 --> 00:50:12.255
you know what they're gonna do to me if they see you chewing me out in public.

00:50:12.255 --> 00:50:24.105
Okay, speaking of that, middle east, israel and iran oh yeah, it's getting uh now as uh.

00:50:24.186 --> 00:50:26.268
We have a resident israeli expert here.

00:50:26.268 --> 00:50:29.920
You know politics of israel, pat.

00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:30.242
What is?

00:50:30.242 --> 00:50:34.449
What is your interpretation of what's going on?

00:50:34.449 --> 00:50:42.521
Because I, I, I here's what I understand from someone who knows no one in israel or anyone in iran.

00:50:43.641 --> 00:51:00.375
Iran was, uh had access to enrich uranium to the level needed uh for nuclear power, which is, to what I understand, is like like 30x enrichment from the natural isotope of uranium.

00:51:00.375 --> 00:51:09.969
You enrich it to 30x and that is enough to do your nuclear power.

00:51:09.969 --> 00:51:20.250
They were enriching it like 60, 80, 70x, which is what you need to start making basic nuclear bombs.

00:51:20.250 --> 00:51:34.967
And they were caught pretty red-handed with it from a third party that was in Israel that reviewed Because the way they reviewed is they reviewed the radiation half-life.

00:51:34.967 --> 00:51:38.074
They're reviewing the radiation, which the radiation is a result of the uranium's half-life at uh.

00:51:38.074 --> 00:51:48.724
Like they, they're reviewing their radiation, which the radiation is a result of the uranium's half-life during enrichment and they observe that radiation in beakers and files and test equipment that was used for enrichment.

00:51:48.724 --> 00:51:52.219
And when they did that, they're like oh yeah, shit, this is some hot stuff.

00:51:52.219 --> 00:51:54.507
This is the stuff that, like, you put in a bomb.

00:51:54.666 --> 00:52:07.005
This is not what you use in a nuclear power facility yeah, yeah israel had that information then and used it to do the preemptive strikes, which I'm going to say in quotes preemptive because it wasn't that long ago.

00:52:07.005 --> 00:52:19.110
Iran was dropping missiles on israel during its interaction, like during the war with hamas, um, and so it really has only been like what?

00:52:19.110 --> 00:52:25.505
Three months since Iran fired those missiles, israel returned fire and then it kind of stopped for a minute.

00:52:25.505 --> 00:52:47.786
Now Israel was like, all right, we're doing a preemptive strike to take out the nuclear facilities, the nuclear scientists that have the nuclear program, and Iran's like leading military experts and leaders, uh, and we're doing this because we have to, because if we don't, you know, then well, iran's gonna have a nuclear bomb and we're gonna get nukes in the middle east.

00:52:47.786 --> 00:52:50.300
Yep and uh.

00:52:50.442 --> 00:52:52.065
A lot of people like that was unfair.

00:52:52.065 --> 00:52:54.472
Iran was like that was unfair.

00:52:54.472 --> 00:52:55.675
Iran fired missiles back.

00:52:55.675 --> 00:52:56.320
Iron dome did its thing.

00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:56.945
Israel filed missiles back.

00:52:56.945 --> 00:52:57.873
Iron Dome did its thing.

00:52:57.873 --> 00:53:02.585
Israel filed missiles back, gave warning to the people of Tehran way ahead of time.

00:53:02.585 --> 00:53:20.190
Apparently, there's word on the ground that the Iranian military, as well as some of the more extremist Islamist groups In Iran, are shooting people when they try to leave Tehran, like they're in iran are shooting people when they try to leave tehran like they're.

00:53:20.190 --> 00:53:31.320
They're trying to keep them there to be civilian casualties to justify whatever they're planning, which I've heard is also what happens in gaza at times with hamas they.

00:53:31.481 --> 00:53:34.824
They didn't allow people to yeah to flee.

00:53:35.346 --> 00:53:38.349
So all that said, uh, that's what I know of it.

00:53:38.349 --> 00:53:45.268
And then last night, iran was like they, they have a twitter account, which I think is the worst idea to have.

00:53:45.268 --> 00:53:51.355
If you're a radical like military terrorist organization is to have a twitter account.

00:53:51.355 --> 00:53:53.057
It never paints you in a good light.

00:53:53.057 --> 00:53:59.929
Yeah, uh, but uh, they're like the world will be surprised by what we're about to do.

00:53:59.929 --> 00:54:02.318
It will be remembered for a century.

00:54:02.318 --> 00:54:03.121
I'm like.

00:54:03.121 --> 00:54:06.487
I now want to see the nuclear bob.

00:54:06.487 --> 00:54:10.621
Like that's a big talk, like right, they're saying you gotta back that up, dude.

00:54:10.822 --> 00:54:11.543
That is this.

00:54:11.543 --> 00:54:12.726
You know what you just did?

00:54:12.726 --> 00:54:14.436
You just put a scratch in the gun, dude.

00:54:14.436 --> 00:54:17.943
Yeah, you put the tear on and now you need to freaking back it up.

00:54:17.943 --> 00:54:27.206
Yeah, I guess also, too, the threat's gone valid enough that today, trump released a statement saying that it's a final warning and they have an attack plan in place.

00:54:27.206 --> 00:54:30.340
So it seems like things are escalating.

00:54:30.340 --> 00:54:33.467
All that said and done, what do you know, pat?

00:54:33.467 --> 00:54:34.556
What can you clarify?

00:54:34.597 --> 00:54:34.858
this is.

00:54:34.898 --> 00:54:37.967
This is all, all my rumor has it intelligence.

00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:40.302
No, a lot of that lines up.

00:54:40.302 --> 00:54:52.603
A lot of people want to get into the who did what first, and that becomes a very big chicken and the egg type of thing and then you got to go back, whatever.

00:54:52.603 --> 00:55:20.434
But yeah, it's been heating up since, uh, october 7th attacks and uh but, and israel has been doing those, has been doing some strikes on iran, and what was surprising was when, this time that um, iran was sending missiles to Tel Aviv and into Israel.

00:55:20.434 --> 00:55:24.161
You know the Iron Dome and David's sling system.

00:55:24.161 --> 00:55:27.440
That is Israel's main defense system for taking out.

00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:45.385
You know, incoming fire really is like very successful against Hamas rockets, you know, and a rocket and a missile are way different, so different yeah, um, and whereas you made in high school exactly.

00:55:45.974 --> 00:55:54.226
You didn't make a missile in high school, yeah, and so the um gosh, one of the videos I did watch a video of I meant to send it to you.

00:55:54.226 --> 00:56:00.896
It was a video of the um video of.

00:56:00.896 --> 00:56:03.302
I meant to send it to you as a video of the was of a missile hitting a refinery.

00:56:03.302 --> 00:56:16.418
An Iranian missile hit a refinery in Israel and it's crazy because you see like lots of rockets and things are coming in and the iron dome is just like knocking stuff out of the air and you can see it all happening.

00:56:16.418 --> 00:56:25.463
And then then from out of left field of camera, it's just that was a good sound, I mean.

00:56:25.523 --> 00:56:45.043
It's just like Everything else is easy to see and it's just Like just in a split second it just rips through the atmosphere down into there and it's like oh, that's the difference of like a explosive uh carrier.

00:56:45.565 --> 00:56:55.726
Right, it's something that is carrying explosives going a couple hundred miles an hour and a mach 10.

00:56:55.726 --> 00:57:15.907
Yeah, something going faster than the speed of sound, going in the neighborhood of over 600, faster than a passenger airplane and going like 700, 800 miles per hour, probably over 1,000 miles per hour and just like cratering faster than you can register it.

00:57:15.907 --> 00:57:20.436
Yeah, I think I did see that video.

00:57:20.436 --> 00:57:21.099
That one was pretty nuts.

00:57:21.099 --> 00:57:21.539
That one was.

00:57:21.539 --> 00:57:27.302
I was like I had to look up and just make sure it wasn't ai right, because it seemed out of a movie.

00:57:27.302 --> 00:57:30.155
It seemed like cgi, like that was the closest thing I've seen of it.

00:57:30.155 --> 00:57:31.278
It looked like a movie.

00:57:31.298 --> 00:57:46.905
You're like, oh my god, and it, um, and so it was pretty, it's, it's uh, so yeah, it's, stuff's getting turned up and um, the Trump's like.

00:57:46.905 --> 00:57:49.550
He just says stuff, man Like this.

00:57:49.550 --> 00:57:53.306
The one he was caught on was, uh, they're asking like so are we like going to join in?

00:57:53.306 --> 00:57:56.356
Is like America going to join Israel in the attack against Iran?

00:57:56.356 --> 00:58:02.443
Then Trump says I like to make a final decision one second before.

00:58:02.443 --> 00:58:04.465
You're like crazy.

00:58:04.465 --> 00:58:07.467
You're like all right, bro, that's not helpful.

00:58:07.467 --> 00:58:10.250
But also it's like that's kind of how he does his thing.

00:58:10.250 --> 00:58:21.458
You always wonder with him what sort of stuff is like, uh, verbal politics tactics, and what stuff is just him just like no, that's actually how he rolls.

00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:22.240
I will say it was.

00:58:22.240 --> 00:58:23.463
I thought it was.

00:58:23.463 --> 00:58:24.266
Here's the thing, man.

00:58:24.266 --> 00:58:30.427
Like I think trump is a, he's a person, and I think he's got bad traits and good traits.

00:58:30.427 --> 00:58:33.543
I'm not gonna defend him, right, like.

00:58:33.543 --> 00:58:36.315
I don't feel like the president of the united states needs me to defend them.

00:58:36.315 --> 00:58:44.403
I'm not also gonna be a like fanboy bootlicker and be like just some people worship the guy, right, right, I personally like most of what he's doing.

00:58:44.403 --> 00:58:51.909
I personally agree with most of what he's doing, um, but I agree, sometimes he says stuff that's crazy out of left field.

00:58:51.909 --> 00:59:15.239
The thing that I thought, though, was like the most badass shit, when he was like yeah, we know where the uh leader is, we know he's in a bunker and he feels very safe, uh, but we, we could take him out any moment yeah this is just why we're asking for peace and I'm just like damn, like it's one thing to know where the guy's at.

00:59:16.041 --> 00:59:22.947
It's one thing to know where the guy's at and not tell him or he not know you know where he's at yeah bro, it's another thing to like.

00:59:23.208 --> 00:59:26.222
It's like that classic meme from like did you ever play xbox live?

00:59:26.222 --> 00:59:27.987
Yeah, it's that classic meme.

00:59:27.987 --> 00:59:31.461
Like you run your mouth and send like a like are you banged?

00:59:31.461 --> 00:59:40.125
Your mom last night message to someone on xbox live and they just respond with like coordinates, longitude, latitude, and you're like oh, my god, you know.

00:59:40.125 --> 00:59:47.585
And uh, I thought it was pretty big, I thought it was, I thought it was, I thought it was pretty sick oh yeah, um, and it's uh.

00:59:49.891 --> 00:59:51.715
I was going through his tweets here, yeah, I mean.

00:59:51.715 --> 00:59:52.838
And the other one, you know where.

00:59:52.838 --> 01:00:04.081
So he left the g7 summit early and he said um, and when he was leaving it, he basically tweeted you know, hey, tehran, you need to evacuate.

01:00:04.081 --> 01:00:07.688
And then um with uh.

01:00:07.688 --> 01:00:17.369
And then, at the same time, he tweeted that china was ordering their citizens in israel, like hey, it's time to leave Israel.

01:00:18.996 --> 01:00:20.942
I wonder how many Chinese are in Israel.

01:00:21.443 --> 01:00:22.567
I don't know, it can't be that many.

01:00:22.567 --> 01:00:23.938
They're kind of everywhere, bro.

01:00:23.938 --> 01:00:24.842
I don't know.

01:00:25.103 --> 01:00:26.840
Yeah, I feel like there's more in Russia.

01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:30.498
Russia and China seem to be good buds For sure.

01:00:30.498 --> 01:00:31.418
There's a lot here.

01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:32.539
A lot of Chinese guys here.

01:00:32.539 --> 01:00:32.880
There's a lot of.

01:00:32.900 --> 01:00:33.201
Chinese here.

01:00:33.201 --> 01:00:34.563
I like the Chinese in America.

01:00:34.782 --> 01:00:35.543
And a lot of them I like.

01:00:35.543 --> 01:00:41.871
Chinese Americans, yeah, but there's a lot of Chinese citizens like working at our like government facilities and it was kind of wild.

01:00:41.891 --> 01:00:49.387
That is kind of wild it's pretty wild how can you be a citizen of China and have top secret clearance that?

01:00:49.407 --> 01:00:50.429
doesn't seem like that makes sense.

01:00:50.429 --> 01:00:53.536
Sounds like we missed something up there.

01:00:53.536 --> 01:01:06.800
But so so also they're ordering um, oh, there's a spot in, oh uh, in Iran, that's their one of their nuclear facilities.

01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:12.679
Like, uh, israel military is like, uh, hey, you guys need to evacuate here.

01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.103
And so everybody's telling everybody to evacuate everything.

01:01:15.103 --> 01:01:34.246
And I just don't know if maybe I missed it, but I don't remember a time where, like, people have been saying this back and forth, a lot of like, hey, you need to get out of here, um, and then it's all been bluffs you know, like, like, I haven't like, maybe I've just missed it, maybe I don't

01:01:34.286 --> 01:01:34.626
remember.

01:01:34.626 --> 01:01:46.083
I don't know if you can remember times of this, but I'm just like like, all right, these are escalations of like and it means like we're about to drop some serious stuff in here, like it's just, it's happening, gotta leave, like.

01:01:46.083 --> 01:02:24.239
So I don't know if it's just a tit for tat, back and forth, saber rattling or you know kind of jousting back and forth to see you know who will retaliate or who will escalate, but it's going to what typically happens, what we always see, especially when people mess with Israel Israelis die a few of them, way more other people die, israelis die A few of them, way more other people die, and then a lot of other people die, and it's already happening in Tehran.

01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:30.585
And then, at the same time, you can never trust Al Jazeera's numbers or throwing up on citizens who've already died in Tehran.

01:02:33.240 --> 01:02:34.724
Al Jazeera is funded by Al Qaeda.

01:02:34.724 --> 01:02:36.420
Isn't that fucking crazy?

01:02:40.217 --> 01:02:40.958
It's pretty wild.

01:02:40.958 --> 01:02:41.599
It's funny.

01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:46.148
Over here we're worried about like hey, is that like a left-leaning or like conservative?

01:02:51.275 --> 01:03:00.186
You can see, al Jazeera received a donation from the official org Al Qaeda, and so they have the way that things are painted in certain lights you never know what's really happening.

01:03:00.186 --> 01:03:15.144
But at the same time, I do think Tehran's got hammered when you know when those, when Israel retaliated from those attacks in Tel Aviv and I honestly I don't know what we're going to see over the next couple weeks.

01:03:15.144 --> 01:03:24.402
I think the stock market went up the last five days, yeah because everyone's buying Raytheon, bro.

01:03:24.996 --> 01:03:26.407
Everyone's buying Raytheon and Lockheed.

01:03:26.507 --> 01:03:27.172
Exactly.

01:03:27.172 --> 01:04:00.545
I don't know if that's a sign, a good or bad sign, but my cynical self would be like oh, tech companies and weapons companies are like you know, it's just typically like I'll say this Whenever other like tragedies or things strike or any like, even if, like Elon or Trump tweets something mildly, you know, kind of, that causes upheaval, stock market just crashes the next day, just takes out takes out, you know, versus like everybody else being like evacuate.

01:04:00.846 --> 01:04:01.847
We will not tolerate this.

01:04:01.847 --> 01:04:05.702
Like the, the, you know iranian, like senate or whatever they have, is they?

01:04:05.702 --> 01:04:06.664
There was a video of them.

01:04:06.664 --> 01:04:10.608
They just burned an american flag in their like congress room.

01:04:10.608 --> 01:04:14.445
I don't know what, what they call their thing, but like while they all chant death to america, they're leaders.

01:04:14.445 --> 01:04:17.188
Yeah, you know what we're not doing over on the capitol hill, burning iranian.

01:04:17.188 --> 01:04:17.793
No, find me someone in america that's been burning in.

01:04:17.793 --> 01:04:18.157
Like while they all chant death to America.

01:04:18.108 --> 01:04:18.338
they're leaders.

01:04:18.338 --> 01:04:19.106
Yeah, you know what we're not doing over on Capitol Hill Burning an Iranian.

01:04:19.106 --> 01:04:23.907
Find me someone in America that's been burning an Iranian flag in the last like 10 years.

01:04:24.014 --> 01:04:26.724
And a public official much less Like you know someone.

01:04:26.724 --> 01:04:28.802
Saying death to Iran, right yeah.

01:04:28.802 --> 01:04:37.414
Could you imagine, like what, how the reaction would be if we had everybody chanting that, anyways, it's different, bro it that?

01:04:37.414 --> 01:04:38.577
Anyways, it's different, bro, it's different.

01:04:38.577 --> 01:04:43.530
And what I think is interesting too is people don't want to accept that it's a religious war.

01:04:43.530 --> 01:04:56.003
Now, that is, people like get a little like crusader around, that's like, well, maybe it's not a religious war for us, but at least one side of this is like call a spade a spade man.

01:04:56.023 --> 01:04:57.467
Believe people when they tell you who they are.

01:04:57.467 --> 01:05:01.324
I have met two iranian christians.

01:05:01.706 --> 01:05:24.543
I think they're the only iranian immigrants I've ever met oh, yeah, they were immigrants in norway and they told me never ever trust an islamist, never ever trust someone who truly has said they believe it is justifiable to kill and wage war simply because someone is not a muslim.

01:05:24.543 --> 01:05:28.217
And I'm like, well, yeah, duh and like, but that's the thing is.

01:05:28.217 --> 01:05:34.938
Like, here we are today and 50 of the country doesn't believe them when they say it, right, you know what I mean.

01:05:34.938 --> 01:05:36.922
And like, like it is bonkers to me.

01:05:36.922 --> 01:05:43.291
I don't think that belief is reason for us to go over there and get involved in the sandbox again.

01:05:43.291 --> 01:05:45.481
Right, I got Middle East fatigue, bro.

01:05:45.481 --> 01:05:47.742
I'm worn out dog Yep.

01:05:48.014 --> 01:06:01.201
That would be the next side of this, which would be what is our obligation and or what's America's future in the area I'm also part of me is like this is going to be unpopular too, and I've said it many times.

01:06:01.201 --> 01:06:03.742
I've not many, I've said it probably like four or five times before.

01:06:03.742 --> 01:06:06.543
On this, I have no personal obligation to Israel.

01:06:06.543 --> 01:06:23.487
I do feel like we should provide aid to anyone who's in need of humanitarian aid, like which I do believe we've seen done, like the amount of money we've sent to israel and gaza and stuff to help with the crisis over there in the war.

01:06:24.898 --> 01:06:46.067
Um is like I think that's good work, I think that's good stuff and I imagine like there's going to be us aid going to whatever the fallout is for this in iran, which is just crazy you know, that we would be giving them aid as they chant death to america, but we do, and we've done it in the past a ton, and I think that's a good thing, like I think it's good to turn the other cheek and offer aid.

01:06:46.067 --> 01:06:55.719
Um, I have no interest, though, in our nation sending young men and women to die in the sandbox again for another country.

01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.891
Uh, now, maybe the wmds are real.

01:06:59.273 --> 01:07:13.257
Maybe they're real this time yeah, let's say that and so then it's like a little bit more of a justification be like yeah, we can't, we can't have insane radical religious warriors having access to nukes to just nuke whoever they want.

01:07:13.257 --> 01:07:17.626
Um, because honestly, that's the thing.

01:07:17.626 --> 01:07:48.989
Right is like if you truly believe in that uh religious, uh philosophy of it's justified by god to kill these people by the tens of millions and you will be rewarded for it, then there is no consequence for your action, which, on the flip side with christianity, like there's no verse in scripture uh, old or new, that is a like forever statement from god justifying christians to murder.

01:07:48.989 --> 01:07:52.360
Like there's none there there is.

01:07:52.380 --> 01:07:57.588
There is a few verses on like self-defense and when it's justified, um.

01:07:57.588 --> 01:08:19.703
And then there were times recorded historically in old testament where god said like hey, this city, wipe it out, right, um, but there's no forever justification, uh, and the old testament or new testament, for, like christians that being, or jews right for having the right to go and um, just eradicate a people.

01:08:19.703 --> 01:08:37.122
And that's the sketch thing about islam, bro, is like in in christianity and judaism I'll say judaism in the context of the torah, because the talmud says a lot of weird stuff, but uh, there's nothing that like morally says it's a good thing or that it'd even be rewarded.

01:08:37.122 --> 01:09:04.648
And that's why I think like the concept of doing something like that is at odds with a lot of people's, like religious morals, christian morals, jewish morals, because you know, if you like, if you did that, it would be at odds with, like what god says those people are, which are his children, created in his image, right versus islam, which says like they're.

01:09:04.967 --> 01:09:29.975
They're heathens and irredeemable, and it's actually like my command to reward you for waging a holy war on them, and that's that's the huge difference there are definitely differences and as far as like, what america's future looks like in that area, I don't know what is gonna happen would you be okay with it?

01:09:30.356 --> 01:09:30.898
like what would you?

01:09:30.898 --> 01:09:33.765
Would you be okay if it was like all right, sending boots back?

01:09:33.765 --> 01:09:38.225
No, no yeah it'd be terrifying bro.

01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:41.283
I could break that down a few ways.

01:09:41.283 --> 01:09:48.405
One like what's the I mean from here?

01:09:48.405 --> 01:09:50.628
We could hit a few buttons and suppress them pretty good.

01:09:51.090 --> 01:09:51.289
Yeah.

01:09:51.515 --> 01:09:54.140
So there's, like you know, like there's the.

01:09:54.140 --> 01:09:58.766
Am I opposed to knocking out their nuclear facilities?

01:09:58.766 --> 01:10:02.199
I don't know, I need to like, look into that more, like myself.

01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:03.483
It's like you know.

01:10:03.483 --> 01:10:05.247
Does that mean that the power there?

01:10:05.247 --> 01:10:06.438
Do they have a nuclear power grid?

01:10:06.438 --> 01:10:08.502
Does that mean, like, their starvation?

01:10:08.502 --> 01:10:09.465
I don't know or like.

01:10:09.465 --> 01:10:10.735
Is this actually?

01:10:10.775 --> 01:10:10.975
a place.

01:10:10.975 --> 01:10:11.777
What are the consequences?

01:10:11.796 --> 01:10:19.310
yeah, there is this actually, like you know, like a 1980s movie, where the evil nuclear lair like, yeah, take it out.

01:10:19.310 --> 01:10:21.197
You know so.

01:10:21.197 --> 01:10:36.011
But I think that the hard thing is also Israel has not ever ceased their need for conquest either.

01:10:36.494 --> 01:10:36.997
Exactly.

01:10:37.137 --> 01:10:43.224
So that's the hard thing too, where it's like you don't see peace in the East.

01:10:43.224 --> 01:10:54.703
Yeah, and this gets back to we were talking about Zionism versus, you know, judaism or versus Islamists where you just go like, like you know is, is it at a certain point?

01:10:54.703 --> 01:10:55.820
Do you just have two sides of a coin?

01:10:55.820 --> 01:10:56.143
Is it the same?

01:10:56.143 --> 01:10:56.666
Is it the a certain point?

01:10:56.666 --> 01:10:57.208
Do you just have two sides?

01:10:57.229 --> 01:10:57.409
of a coin.

01:10:57.430 --> 01:10:57.712
Is it the same?

01:10:57.712 --> 01:11:00.563
Is it the same thing Once you get to the ultimate ends of both things?

01:11:00.563 --> 01:11:02.041
Right, and I do think there is?

01:11:02.041 --> 01:11:14.569
I think Israel is typically in a responsive posture outside of like a Palestine-Israel conversation.

01:11:14.569 --> 01:11:42.184
Two, it's like neighboring countries, israel is usually in a responsive posture, and then you know, so there's, there's that, and so I think that we'll see, and also, you know America's involvement with you know it'd be the same way that when, as we painfully left 2020, afghanistan it's like and you know it's just another.

01:11:42.184 --> 01:11:48.551
So just, you know, basically, no, I don't think we should be having people, especially en masse over there.

01:11:49.030 --> 01:11:49.311
Yeah.

01:11:49.572 --> 01:11:49.752
Right.

01:11:49.752 --> 01:11:55.266
So, like I'd say, send some soft guys with some Israelis, whatever, like, whatever.

01:11:55.386 --> 01:11:56.047
Why even send them?

01:11:56.315 --> 01:12:01.942
Just send some really nice you know drones, Just because they want to get after it a little bit.

01:12:03.238 --> 01:12:15.923
But versus, like you know, spinning up the war machine With the dogs Right, just like so, and I think it needs to be more heavily considered it just it always feels like I don't know of the wars we've gotten into, of like how heavily considered it.

01:12:15.923 --> 01:12:21.380
Just it always feels like I don't know of the wars we've gotten into, of like how heavily considered is I could say in.

01:12:21.380 --> 01:12:54.154
I see world war ii as and there's actually arguments we made that we shouldn't have been involved with that, sure, but I do see that one as one where it's like fairly clear-cut, like uh, had a, had a clear purpose and ending and a goal that's achievable as well as like Pearl Harbor, were attacked and drug into it further, and so then, and those were two different wars in their own ways, but, like you could see, okay, like, yeah, that was a good idea.

01:12:54.175 --> 01:13:03.819
But ever since then you look back and it's just like all right, like where's the like, the real justification for getting involved in these conflicts that have nothing to do with, um, our?

01:13:03.819 --> 01:13:05.363
You know us.

01:13:05.363 --> 01:13:19.457
And at the same time, though, you do like, now that we do live in such a global uh, uh, globalization has come to nearly fruition, you know, we aren't all on the same currency and are the same stuff but at the same time.

01:13:19.497 --> 01:13:28.595
It's like it is so intermingled where it is like okay, if you don't go fight communism back past a border or this country, then how much is it going to come through?

01:13:28.595 --> 01:13:32.283
I don't know, but the uh I agree with that, you know.

01:13:32.323 --> 01:13:58.764
So it is hard to say, like you know, that it's not worth it to whatever a Korea or whatever, but at the same time, when you're just doing these mass bloodbaths with nothing to show for, it's like if we're going to go to war, we just better get a lot more land and resources, and I don't know, just some old style, Just some old style risk or whatever.

01:13:59.336 --> 01:14:00.118
You know you just go over.

01:14:00.118 --> 01:14:02.439
You mean like the board game, yeah, you know, you just go.

01:14:03.155 --> 01:14:07.725
You go to the next country over, take it over, take their stuff, grow your empire.

01:14:07.725 --> 01:14:12.899
I'm not saying I'm for that, I'm just saying like we don't see that anymore Right Like we see it.

01:14:18.114 --> 01:14:18.475
I think we see it.

01:14:18.475 --> 01:14:21.664
I think, like the next time we'll see it as chinese economic takeover, and that's where it's hard to go now.

01:14:21.664 --> 01:14:25.113
Is it is fighting these little little proxy wars and these little things.

01:14:25.113 --> 01:14:27.118
Is that the same thing like?

01:14:27.118 --> 01:14:27.841
Is that really?

01:14:27.841 --> 01:14:38.168
Is it actually adding like huge protection, that we didn't realize how important it was for you know, uh, the donbass region to not be under Russia's control, or whatever?

01:14:38.168 --> 01:14:42.422
You know these, like these little things, yeah and uh.

01:14:43.886 --> 01:14:46.242
No, I mean there's nothing you said that I disagree with either.

01:14:46.242 --> 01:14:56.159
Um, I was just kind of looking stuff up to try to see like I mean, like devil's advocate kind of points, but like I really I don't have any that I really think are worth it.

01:14:56.159 --> 01:15:18.377
I think the biggest thing is that when we, you know, talk about the impact that this could potentially have on us, you know it, it does look to me like it seems like there was something Putin said about the US involvement.

01:15:18.377 --> 01:15:23.050
He like tweeted it, which I also hate, this trend of our leaders tweeting.

01:15:23.371 --> 01:15:27.751
I know, can you guys just pick up that phone you have in the Oval Office again and like talk?

01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:42.832
Quit measuring dicks and just like, yeah, hit the phone, um, but uh, you know, it's one of those things where I see this and I'm just like does this really really feel like the catalyst potential to be world war three?

01:15:42.832 --> 01:15:49.625
And if I'm being honest, I would say it doesn't quite feel that way.

01:15:49.625 --> 01:16:02.117
I feel like I feel like israel is pushed a little too aggressively and that the us is.

01:16:02.117 --> 01:16:11.868
I think the us would sooner get involved in another quote-unquote like ukraine, russia thing.

01:16:11.868 --> 01:16:13.511
Quote unquote like Ukraine, russia.

01:16:13.530 --> 01:16:19.856
Thing than a like Israel eternal war in the Middle East for peace.

01:16:20.056 --> 01:16:30.974
Right, this is where the borders have been crossed and things like that and I just genuinely think that Netanyahu, too, has really burnt bridges with Trump before.

01:16:30.974 --> 01:16:48.686
Netanyahu has really said some things that I think made Trump feel like insulted, and I do think Trump has also heard the criticism of Netanyahu as a leader and that there might be a better leader in Israel.

01:16:48.686 --> 01:17:16.270
Mm-hmm, and I do think that, like in a super war situation that he you know Trump may just be like we're not going to get our people involved in a military way, but we'll get involved in trying to get this over as quick as possible and protect innocents and get them out way, and if there's a change of leadership, then the conversation might begin again.

01:17:16.270 --> 01:17:19.948
And I just I don't know, I have nothing.

01:17:19.948 --> 01:17:32.150
I'm betting against the fate of the world, right, like whatever direction it's going to go down, but I still I just don't get the vibe right now that this is World War III.

01:17:32.150 --> 01:17:40.184
It feels too personal between the two nations and I.

01:17:40.363 --> 01:17:52.412
I truly think we need something like israel crippling iran and then china straight up just firing missiles from china at israel, and then it'd be like, okay, all right, what the fuck is going on?

01:17:52.412 --> 01:17:54.979
You know, I mean um and we're.

01:17:54.979 --> 01:17:56.082
I just don't see that happening.

01:17:56.082 --> 01:18:26.105
Yeah, um, now, don't worry, we don't have to get into this episode, but the whole chinese taiwan situation, I think, is way more likely to be a world war iii catalyst because of how fragile our uh chain of supply of semiconductors and all that is coming out of taiwan and how crucial taiwan is to the free world, and so I see that as being way more of a sensitive kind of world war three item than this conflict.

01:18:26.166 --> 01:18:35.692
But, um, one thing I was doing, though and again this isn't like to justify anything, this is just interesting history, right, I was watching videos on why.

01:18:35.692 --> 01:18:50.746
There's a guy who made a whole documentary about why no one is accepting refugees from gaza, how no one's accepting palestinians, and it turns out like the reason that other muslim countries aren't doing it is because of the history of palestinians.

01:18:50.746 --> 01:19:07.685
Like palestinians, as a like people, have the same kind of stigma that you would assign to like gypsies oh, throughout the, throughout the middle east and uh, I didn't know this, but it was it was palestinian refugees in.

01:19:08.286 --> 01:19:09.448
Uh, was it?

01:19:09.448 --> 01:19:36.448
Was it saudi arabia I believe it was Saudi Arabia or it was in Kuwait that essentially like helped smuggle in the invasion of Iraq into Kuwait, and like they were the ones that just like helped them smuggle, like the roads in, and it was Palestinian refugees that Kuwait had taken in, that then turned on Kuwait to work with Iraq to smuggle stuff in, and that was like just one.

01:19:36.448 --> 01:20:13.886
That was one example, but like there's a bunch of different examples through history of like how, uh, and it's again like it's not probably all palestinians right for sure it's not, but there's enough things that have happened with this people group after they were accepted into another country, where they then betrayed that country in a like self-seeking manner of like oh, we'll help this next regime change happen and then the palestinians will have a higher uh level of authority and ranking in like the caste system of islam in this government and that's why, like egypt, don't take them.

01:20:13.907 --> 01:20:19.453
Like egypt has straight up referenced that invasion in kuwait as like, why would we want to do that?

01:20:19.453 --> 01:20:27.122
We don't want them to open the gates to egypt and I was just like I was confused when I first heard that I was like open the gates to egypt.

01:20:27.122 --> 01:20:28.246
That's got to be metaphorical.

01:20:28.246 --> 01:20:37.293
They literally just mean like opening the fucking gates to like an invading army to get through Egypt's border wall, which I was like I was gobsmacked by.

01:20:37.293 --> 01:20:39.287
I was like I did not know the history of this.

01:20:39.661 --> 01:20:51.765
Yeah, it's like they have those things are like those things have happened and basically there is a.

01:20:51.765 --> 01:21:04.073
They have become a very shadow, like, like almost homeless culture, and especially as they've been occupied by israel now, it's like.

01:21:04.252 --> 01:21:21.539
It's like, uh, really nowhere to go and or and or if they want to maintain their cultural or cultural history or things like that too, like if they all just leave, then they'll just kind of bleed into these other places.

01:21:21.539 --> 01:21:47.345
And so, yeah, it's definitely a it is a very sticky situation because there are, you know, lots of places that don't the bordering like Arab countries don't accept them or bring them in, that don't the bordering like arab countries don't accept them or bring them in, and so then it's also kind of like I don't know, uh, for the for all the like, all the talk of like death to israel, yeah, and like all.

01:21:47.345 --> 01:21:49.871
That's like a little bit of hypocrisy, I think.

01:21:49.871 --> 01:21:51.502
Oh, it's not just a little bit it's.

01:21:51.542 --> 01:21:56.260
You know it's a lot of hypocrisy, right, but it's also I get like it's.

01:21:56.260 --> 01:22:04.623
The hypocrisy is coming from their justification of like oh, fool me once, shame on, shame on you.

01:22:04.623 --> 01:22:06.207
Fool me twice, shame on me Right.

01:22:06.609 --> 01:22:11.090
Um which I don't know what people freaking expect.

01:22:11.090 --> 01:22:21.527
Like we're talking about, like you know, a lot of like uh societies and um, what's the term uh for?

01:22:21.527 --> 01:22:54.511
A lot of intersectionality of society and religion and ethnicity and history and all that intersecting, and it's intersecting in a culture that has still very much medieval, almost third world caste systems and like beliefs of you know, there's still belief that, like you are the way you are because of the color of your skin in a lot of those countries you are the way you are because of the you know.

01:22:56.760 --> 01:22:57.702
Your tribe, your tribe yeah, like your.

01:22:57.702 --> 01:23:00.328
Your genetic history right you're in.

01:23:00.328 --> 01:23:11.724
There's a lack of understanding that like, oh, you could be different because you're coming from a different cultural, even though you quote unquote, identify as like arabic or whatever.

01:23:11.724 --> 01:23:12.765
Right um.

01:23:12.824 --> 01:23:20.673
Mm-hmm and I'm like, yeah, that makes sense, dude, we're not talking about a culture that has the concept of like.

01:23:20.673 --> 01:23:23.036
Oh yeah, anyone can be anyone like they want to be.

01:23:23.036 --> 01:23:25.662
You choose who you want to be.

01:23:25.662 --> 01:23:30.653
If you want to be the lying backstabbing gypsy, you can be that.

01:23:30.653 --> 01:23:42.099
If you want to be not that and just be like a normal person looking for a home and a life to like, establish your little falafel shop, you can be that person too and like that's.

01:23:42.298 --> 01:23:53.809
I think that's a very western worldview or even, yeah, even like to be like because of as americans too, like we really are, like, oh yeah, you could come here and then you can be an american.

01:23:53.809 --> 01:23:57.583
Yeah, you can't go to egypt and be an egyptian.

01:23:57.765 --> 01:23:58.427
You know what I mean.

01:23:58.427 --> 01:23:59.190
You'll never be in a.

01:23:59.351 --> 01:24:05.791
You'll never be an american egyptian right, yeah, you'll always be an american in egypt right, yeah, like you don't go become an egyptian.

01:24:05.791 --> 01:24:08.664
No, because that's not, it's not in you.

01:24:08.664 --> 01:24:15.164
Yeah, and, and they're not wrong as far as like in the sense of yeah, I mean they're not incorrect in that like.

01:24:15.164 --> 01:24:28.886
Yeah, this is like we're from here, we like this is like, because the concept of like you're, you know, becoming like to be American, it's kind of new in the sense of just being like, oh like, all right, you're in the club now.

01:24:29.025 --> 01:24:36.329
Yeah, it's like no, like this, like if you're what Pashtun, well, that kind of like.

01:24:36.329 --> 01:24:43.134
Yeah, because we've been living in these mountains for a damn long time, yeah, you know, yeah, and I get the.

01:24:43.574 --> 01:24:49.297
You can justify it because of the cultural history and reinforcement.

01:24:49.297 --> 01:24:59.010
But that's what I'm saying is like people are scratching their their heads, saying like why aren't they doing anything?

01:24:59.010 --> 01:24:59.712
They're Muslim and they're Muslim.

01:24:59.712 --> 01:25:04.467
And like they're clearly being oppressed by, like you know, the Jewish state and they want the Jewish state to die.

01:25:04.467 --> 01:25:06.448
Why not welcome these people from the Jewish state?

01:25:06.448 --> 01:25:15.842
And it's like, well, because they're Palestinian and they'll always be Palestinian and we can never trust a Palestinian in our country.

01:25:15.842 --> 01:25:21.207
You know, there was like an interview I saw and someone like it was they're interviewing someone in Egypt.

01:25:21.207 --> 01:25:22.734
I think it was just random people.

01:25:22.734 --> 01:25:24.681
I don't think it was like any elected officials or anything.

01:25:24.681 --> 01:25:27.408
But there's this guy who looked like a businessman.

01:25:27.408 --> 01:25:36.132
He's like the only thing worse than an Israeli Jew in Egypt is a Palestinianlim and it was like fuck, damn, like that's a.

01:25:36.132 --> 01:25:40.907
That's some heat coming from a like egyptian.

01:25:40.907 --> 01:25:42.029
You know what I mean?

01:25:42.029 --> 01:25:43.712
Not that egypt, I don't remember.

01:25:43.712 --> 01:25:45.984
Has egypt yeah, egypt's gone to war with israel?

01:25:46.564 --> 01:25:51.400
yeah, yeah, um back in the day not recently, but yeah, um, anyways.

01:25:51.480 --> 01:26:08.189
All that said, it's a delicate situation that is, I think, in no way shape or peace our responsibility, and I say that in my limited 30-ish years of life experience.

01:26:08.189 --> 01:26:08.931
You know what I mean.

01:26:08.931 --> 01:26:16.671
I don't have anything other to justify that opinion other than my young wife and what I can interpret from what I'm seeing now.

01:26:18.914 --> 01:26:34.246
Yeah, and we'll just see where, which is weird to just kind of sit by and we'll see what people decide and then what happens you know, yeah, oh my goodness.

01:26:34.539 --> 01:26:54.025
I will say though I like I do still fantasize about the uh like invasion of america from a modern warfare 2 campaign perspective right, you know, I mean, and I'm just like that, if that shit happens, then then it's our problem, right.

01:26:54.025 --> 01:27:04.770
But I'm almost at the point where I'm so war exhausted, so conflict exhausted, that I'm like are they in DC, are they in, you know, freaking gunships over DC?

01:27:04.770 --> 01:27:09.028
Right Are Russians and Cubans parachuting down behind the high school.

01:27:09.288 --> 01:27:10.171
Red Dawn style.

01:27:10.171 --> 01:27:11.033
Right no.

01:27:12.341 --> 01:27:14.269
Hey, then let's just work on our own shit.

01:27:14.269 --> 01:27:16.702
Here, man, we got stuff we got to sort out.

01:27:17.422 --> 01:27:20.247
Yep, we can go corn and pump oil.

01:27:20.247 --> 01:27:28.509
Yeah, here exactly and make stuff yeah, we need to anyways I just have a few less crappy plastic items from timu.

01:27:28.909 --> 01:27:30.981
Yeah you know we could use less mm-hmm.

01:27:32.046 --> 01:27:35.519
Yep, um, have you seen?

01:27:35.519 --> 01:27:36.926
I don't know if it's real or not.

01:27:36.926 --> 01:27:38.659
Hoping it's not.

01:27:38.659 --> 01:27:39.542
I'm sure it's not.

01:27:39.923 --> 01:27:48.762
But this video that anonymous just put out that is, there is no such thing as a baby made of plastic water bottles, pat.

01:27:48.762 --> 01:27:52.363
Okay, but that's not a real video.

01:27:52.363 --> 01:27:55.724
Have you seen the commercial made by a like?

01:27:55.724 --> 01:28:07.465
Someone made it with ai and it was like it's about how people drink like plastic and water and then this dude and his wife have a baby and it's made out of water bottles.

01:28:07.465 --> 01:28:18.704
Oh yeah, grows up to be a man in like business and then, like tries to take out the board john wick style oh yeah, I haven't seen that it's pretty impressive that it's all made in ai.

01:28:18.826 --> 01:28:26.710
Yeah, boomers are reacting to it on facebook like oh my god I'm like, like as if it happened this can't be real.

01:28:26.710 --> 01:28:36.492
Like I don't know if they think it's a movie or like if they think it's a possibility, yeah, but like some of the reactions are insane.

01:28:36.492 --> 01:28:43.051
You know what I mean and I guess you know what If I was around before there was recorded media, yeah.

01:28:43.051 --> 01:28:45.011
Maybe I'd think it was real too.

01:28:45.011 --> 01:28:45.534
Yeah.

01:28:45.534 --> 01:28:46.140
You know what I mean.

01:28:46.140 --> 01:28:51.890
Anyways, the stuff about the what, what you say.

01:28:52.032 --> 01:28:52.813
The anonymous.

01:28:52.813 --> 01:28:55.503
It's anonymous video came out Totally irrelevant.

01:28:55.604 --> 01:28:56.368
I hate anonymous.

01:28:56.368 --> 01:28:58.307
They are such a cock tease.

01:28:58.307 --> 01:29:07.488
I remember when I graduated high school they were like we're going to dismantle the system and they didn't, and so I just think they're gay.

01:29:08.884 --> 01:29:14.345
This one was coming out about saying something along the lines of a false flag attack is coming in America.

01:29:14.345 --> 01:29:18.204
You know, that's what we're all saying.

01:29:18.204 --> 01:29:19.108
All of us are saying that.

01:29:20.586 --> 01:29:23.043
Clearly, if I was a Mossad agent and I was like damn.

01:29:23.043 --> 01:29:25.948
We're about to get our asses whooped by Iran and Iran's buddies.

01:29:25.948 --> 01:29:33.724
I'd be trying to figure out how to get some Iranians who will do the most wildest shit into the US, yep, and that's so.

01:29:33.784 --> 01:29:34.728
Have you seen this video?

01:29:34.728 --> 01:29:35.841
No, because that's what.

01:29:35.841 --> 01:29:37.345
That's basically what they're saying it's going to be.

01:29:37.487 --> 01:29:38.369
You know what that also is.

01:29:38.369 --> 01:29:41.427
That's the plot of the like fourth season of Homeland.

01:29:41.427 --> 01:29:42.871
Oh yeah, you know what I mean All sorts of things.

01:29:42.891 --> 01:29:52.789
yeah, they're basically saying they are alluding to, like you know be alluding to Israel and stuff here.

01:29:52.789 --> 01:30:05.490
Anyways, when I say if it's real or not, not meaning if it's going to happen or not, it's just I can never figure out with anonymous, like who's in charge of this thing.

01:30:06.672 --> 01:30:34.585
I did hear there's so much of guys like if you have a garage and a V for Vendetta mask, then can you just now you're in the club, you can just say stuff it used to be one of those things where you used to like have to meet up with someone in like a public place, where then they would like give you something to like vet you, and then you'd record yourself and provide the information or whatever, and then they'd let you know if you were in this is what I this is what I was told when I was like going in chat rooms when I was in high school Like damn, I want to join these guys.

01:30:34.625 --> 01:30:41.711
Right, I didn't want to join them because I was like a freaking communist or anything, I just was like this is sick.

01:30:41.711 --> 01:30:53.871
This is the cool movie stuff where we take over Times Square, right, and broadcast on all the TVs, right, we hacked the system and we're all millionaires, while also giving money to the poor.

01:30:54.110 --> 01:30:54.572
Yeah right.

01:30:55.079 --> 01:31:09.331
Yeah, and so I was reading the chat rooms and people were just talking about how they had attempted to join Anonymous and given resumes and they met with someone in person where they were asked questions on a park bench and shit, and then they were like informed like you were not allowed in.

01:31:09.331 --> 01:31:12.943
Like they were informed like you're not in, you didn't pass, mm-hmm.

01:31:12.943 --> 01:31:22.023
However, pat, look like you're not, like you're not, it, you didn't pass.

01:31:22.023 --> 01:31:23.104
However, pat, look into my eyes.

01:31:23.104 --> 01:31:26.331
I know someone who works in the dod who claims to have been a part of anonymous at one point.

01:31:26.331 --> 01:31:34.591
Wow, and they said a bunch of them got cherry picked by all the agencies, specifically nsa.

01:31:34.791 --> 01:32:03.766
nsa came in, was like your motherfuckers work for us now or you're going to prison forever, especially the best ones yeah and so, uh, they apparently all are there now and whatever is left over is like chumps, like not even dudes who were in at the time, dude, it was like the whole anonymous agency got cannibalized by the fed and whatever exists now is just people putting on and pretending and maybe they're organized right and it's one organization, but it's not what the OGs were.

01:32:03.766 --> 01:32:07.028
There's no OG leadership with a directive and a goal.

01:32:07.028 --> 01:32:08.211
That was there before.

01:32:08.211 --> 01:32:21.932
Now that's the claim of one guy saying he was in and did it and it was fun and he said some things that was pretty credible, like what he worked on and stuff, but I don't know if it's the truth.

01:32:22.395 --> 01:32:22.595
Right.

01:32:23.139 --> 01:32:31.094
Um, I will say, the false flag thing does make me think a lot about nine 11.

01:32:31.094 --> 01:32:35.891
Did you know there's a certain thing we can't talk about on this podcast at all?

01:32:35.891 --> 01:32:37.990
Otherwise we would probably get delisted.

01:32:39.337 --> 01:32:42.926
It's about the building number that comes after 6 but before 8.

01:32:42.926 --> 01:32:45.889
We can't talk about that actually.

01:32:45.889 --> 01:32:46.788
You're not allowed to.

01:32:46.788 --> 01:32:55.511
It's actually AI moderated that if we talk about building after 6, before 8 on 9-11, we get in huge trouble.

01:32:55.511 --> 01:32:56.699
That's ridiculous.

01:32:56.699 --> 01:33:00.750
Uh, there's a really good video on youtube by flesh simulator.

01:33:00.750 --> 01:33:19.335
He just does a lot of edgy like conspiracy videos about all the conspiracy around building after six, before eight and uh, it's a very, very well presented, thorough, source, cited video.

01:33:19.335 --> 01:33:24.407
Um, this episode's gone too long.

01:33:24.407 --> 01:33:26.452
I don't want to play because it'll take.

01:33:26.492 --> 01:33:34.886
It'll take too long to play in that process, but let's watch it, but how does he get to put that up and we can't talk about because he doesn't talk about it.

01:33:34.905 --> 01:33:41.912
Okay he, he doesn't talk about it, okay, he just okay, he talks around it, but there's a lot of people who have tried to talk about it and then their YouTube channel gets canceled and stuff.

01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:43.344
Their family disappears.

01:33:43.666 --> 01:33:47.350
No, not like that, they just like their channel gets deleted or the Instagram gets deleted right.

01:33:47.350 --> 01:33:52.929
But how about you and I watch it and then we can decide if we want to talk about it later on?

01:33:52.929 --> 01:33:55.173
I do really want to have another conspiracy episode.

01:33:55.173 --> 01:33:59.612
It's been like a year and a half since we had a dedicated conspiracies episode.

01:33:59.612 --> 01:34:05.045
Anyways, we talked about a lot of stuff, a lot of catch-up stuff.

01:34:05.045 --> 01:34:06.824
Oh yeah, a lot of catch-up stuff.

01:34:06.824 --> 01:34:12.426
Man, the world's crazy, my world's on fire.

01:34:12.426 --> 01:34:14.208
How about yours?

01:34:14.569 --> 01:34:14.930
This way.

01:34:14.930 --> 01:34:15.372
I like it.

01:34:15.372 --> 01:34:16.774
I never get bored.

01:34:16.774 --> 01:34:19.966
Thanks for listening, ken.

01:34:19.966 --> 01:34:22.345
I hope you enjoyed it.

01:34:22.345 --> 01:34:29.650
I really don't care if you agree with Pat or I on anything, but I really do care about you enjoying the experience.

01:34:29.650 --> 01:34:35.627
I really do care about you enjoying it, feeling like you get out of this show listening and engaging.

01:34:35.627 --> 01:34:38.592
I hope if you disagree with us, you let us know we would.

01:34:38.592 --> 01:34:48.024
We're always open to learning and hearing other perspectives, um, but we don't put the show on in hopes that, like everybody just nods their heads.

01:34:48.024 --> 01:34:53.621
Uh, we hope that it encourages critical thinking and you ask yourself this own stuff.

01:34:53.621 --> 01:34:55.583
You know your own opinions and you process it.

01:34:55.583 --> 01:34:57.067
Don't be an npc.

01:34:57.067 --> 01:34:59.930
Have your own thoughts, be your own person.

01:34:59.930 --> 01:35:06.612
Uh, have good arguments for it and present those so that way you socialize and engage in dialogue with uh one another.

01:35:06.612 --> 01:35:09.849
Uh, peacefully peaceful dialogue, uh.

01:35:09.849 --> 01:35:13.407
All that said, pat, you got anything for us.

01:35:14.310 --> 01:35:15.231
Just till next time.