The Mick & Pat Show - Science Non-Fiction

0:03 Well, today a man touched my wiener. How's that different from any other day? It was a unique one and he said, right there, he kind of had his finger underneath and he goes right there on the zipper. It was where he was touching, right at the base of my business, where the beans meet the frank so he had his hand on your zipper or on your actual schlong dong, the zipper being the, the continuation of the old, the old taint, the. Uh, where you're?

0:43 Oh, like he was, he was like straight up like sparring helmet, like he was. He was changing the oil approaching, approaching and he said and uh, anyways, because he said, uh said yeah, right here on the right, here on the zipper here, and that's where he's going to cut me, he's going to snip me open and he's going to pull out a tube and he's going to cut it and then send it back in and do it to the other one. I just don't know if I'm ready for it. I heard it, so we're talking about a vasectomy yes, that's correct uh, and I know the, I know the female operation is very intense, getting the fallopian tubes removed or sealed, whatever.

1:42 Um, I've heard the, I heard a, I've heard heard that vasectomies are like you get it done. You don't even really feel any pain, you just ice it a little bit. You put an ice pack between your legs and then the next day it feels pretty healed up. I think that's true and I also think if you go read the forums, don't read the forums, because sometimes it doesn't go so smooth. Really. It'll be like three weeks of excruciating pain, could not walk, you know, for a month, just like things like that. And so part of me wonders if those guys have preexisting conditions or something you know For sure Like also, like he said, like like while.

2:26 And so part of me wonders if those guys have pre-existing conditions or something you know for sure. Like also like he said, like like while I was in there um, I can doctors even say this anymore? I mean, man, he just I love, I love that old school doctor. He's like doctors have a pass. He's like you're not fat, so like it's gonna be easy. Yeah, it's like, because if I guess it makes sense, if you're fat and you know it's all pushing down and you're turtling and your weight is, you know, pulling on your strings I also imagine the taint is an area that collects fat to some degree, and they don't go in at the taint, they go in at the top of the top of the nuts, right where you're, you're top of the back of the nuts Right where your wing Top of the back of the nuts Nope In the front.

3:06 Oh, in the front, in the front, yeah, oh. So why was he touching your taint? No, the the zipper comes all the way around, you know? No, I think that's just you bud. No, this is because that actually divides. Do you know that your nut sack has a wall inside of it? It's got yeah, you keep one nut on each side, exactly. So that is the. You can see it, you can see the I think that's just you, bud. All right, I think I think you have a. I think you have a line I think you have a seam. I had a weird where god welded you together. Well, did it shut, as it was intended to be are we talking? what are we talking about welds here? Are we talking about some good roll around, roll over, roll around, roll over?

3:52 Are we talking just like solid beads? I think it was pretty solid. But what is wild is he took this piece of paper and drew it upside down. Anytime anybody draws something upside down. You know they've done it a lot of times. So he drew a little nut sack, drew a wall down the nut sack, drew a little nut, drew the parts of your nut, and then, like, showed where he's going to make a little hole. He's like, and then I'm going to pull it out right here. He just made like a loop of this thing and then we're going to cut it. And I was like, oh, and he's like, at this point he's like. He's like, right out the gate, like you'll feel, like you'll feel a bee sting. You're gonna feel a bee sting when I give you the numbing to make the incision, he's like, and then when I pull that thing out, it's gonna feel like I'm kicking you in in the balls.

4:39 This is what the doctor said but listen, he's not gonna like well because they have to get it out to then numb that area. So they get the, they get the tube out, numb it before they cut it. But he said that it's gonna feel like I am. It's gonna feel like the the tip of a shoe. Yeah, he's the back of a knuckle. Yeah, it's gonna feel like I'm getting the boys, yeah, and uh, I wonder if, like when that's cut, if you'll be immune to feeling that like stomach drop, nut sack pain, because I think every guy knows what I'm talking about oh yeah, what's up? hi. Well, and it's, and it's like one of those things where, like the lightest sack tap can cause it. It is not something with speed and, you know, violence that causes that sinking pain, it's like, it's like the.

5:26 It's really odd how, how, like a gentle sack tap can then make you be like, oh, oh, my God, like wind out of you Feels like you know, your stomach just fell out on the floor. So I wonder, I wonder if you'll be immune to that now. I'm seeing this says it just kind of feels like he got kicked in the balls for like a couple days. I don't. I don't think the. I don't think there's any, the the science on the google would say there's no immunity. Oh, but there is a um afterwards it's a range of you know, after this, the procedure takes like eight minutes. They get it done. Everything goes smooth Snip, snip, tuck it in One stitch, go home.

6:11 The next three days is like got to stay on the couch and the bed. Don't let your kids jump on you, because somehow they always end up giving you the flying knee to the boys, because somehow they always end up giving you the flying knee to the boys, and so he said the first day is key to healing right, and then you're kind of up and going after a couple days. But it's just, I've never thought it was a big deal until I was the one sitting in the seat. And now I have to anticipate it because today was just a consultation. Now I got to think about it for a few months until it happens and I'm I'm ready, but I'm not ready.

6:55 I did leave there and I went to Chick-fil-A for a little comfort sandwich because I kind of felt sick in my stomach but got to do what you got to do, you know Chick-fil-A for a little comfort sandwich, because I kind of felt sick in my stomach but got to do what you got to do, you know, got to. It's the. We're there, we've got three kids. It's time to be done. Yeah, I mean, and you said three was the, was the number for you, three was the magic, I think we have you on the show saying that Mm hmm. Yep, so, so we made it and we're it's time to be done. And you know, I think, and we'd always said like two to four was like the outside perimeter, three was the goal.

7:38 Mm-hmm. And then I think some of the complications we had like at the beginning of this last with the last kid was like all right, we're very uninterested in four kids now. Going through that again. It's like we've reached a place where we like to be. I don't feel like it's. You know, yeah, I'm okay with making it happen. And then you know, like, also, like, get my wife off birth control, all that, like healthier for her, all those things. So that's what we got to do. It makes sense, bro, it really does. I think of those things that you're the first of my gaggle of friends to you know, to be heading down that road, which is sick, I know, I feel too young, I mean, I feel like as michael scott said you know it's reversible snip snap, snip, snap it is, it's reversible.

8:42 And it is like they say, like you know, it doesn't affect you at all, it doesn't affect like testosterone levels or like anything else, like it's just, you're just shooting blanks, everything's fine. So it's like I know a lot of guys have gone through it and so I'm just going to. They're still living, they're still walking. You personally know a lot of guys who have gone through it, or you just know, yeah, guys go through it. No, I say personally. I know a lot of guys, a lot of guys who are a couple years ahead of me with kids, and then also guys who are like, you know, whatever 45, 55, who are like yeah got it done, you know back in the day.

9:25 So here soon I'm going to have a couple days of just sitting on the couch trying to avoid my two ninja children trying to just jump on me. You do have some ninja boys. Because I think that pain if they land a flying knee will be the craziest nut kick of your life. Yeah, I bet. I bet the craziest nut kick of your life. Yeah, I bet, I bet. Um well, uh, you know, I guess there's a couple things that we can go over first. You know, let's do a follow-up on, uh, you know, good old fudge. Uh, you were telling me it sounds like he's doing okay down in florida, right like we. Uh, we have a homie down there that you know, we interviewed on the last episode and everything's A-OK, just some power outage.

10:12 But they are totally fine in Isle of Storm, correct? That's correct. Yeah, I think they're good to go. Nice, no issues. So yeah, they're all set and the you know. But there's other areas of Florida that are not the case, you know, but they're they're through it. They're fine now, um, but the so some videos coming through of other places that they did. They got smacked pretty good. Yeah, florida, I mean Florida definitely took some pounding. Um, and I was looking, I was pretty shocked at some of the places I was looking at and just some of those like old, you know just like beach shack places that were, you know, literally like a dive bar, with you know like rotted wood around it, and just seeing, like you know, those buildings get just picked up and carried away was pretty crazy.

11:04 Like just seeing full you know, those buildings get just picked up and carried away. Um, was pretty crazy, like just seeing full structures carried down the roads. Um, I was like wow, that's, I don't know, I guess I mean I'm I wonder if it was even insured. You know, at that point, like, do you even insure a building like that or do you just accept that it's going to get carried away one day? you'll just have to find another shack for real and and I don't know how like hurricane insurance works. Everyone says that I was looking into who's like. Finance bro is like bro. Like, get ready for insurance to go through the roof Right. Like home insurance is going to cost you an arm and a leg To cover all this stuff. Yeah, because they just had to pay so much out of the nose for two back-to-back hurricanes.

11:47 So it's gonna be pretty bonkers, I guess. But you know, I think earthquake insurance in colorado is like like 25 cents a month probably worth it, since we live on a mountain range that's what you know. That's what, like, my dad got it and some people were, you know, telling him like, are you, are you crazy, are you an idiot? And then he just like, no, he just like pointed at the mountains. He's like why do you think those got here, I think? I think the earth might have been shaken a little bit when, uh, I think your dad's ridiculous, bro. I think god put those mountains there. Hey, I'm just kidding yeah, I'm just kidding mr pet the. Uh, you're not wrong.

12:28 Not wrong, neither is he. So I don't think, I don't know if I'm gonna get it, but for that cheap. It's kind of like that's the cheapest insurance you can ever have an insurance, I mean, there's no point in you getting it that's true. That's what I mean. I mean, that's why I said I don't know if I will, bro, speaking of which? two more units have gone for sale up by me. I need you to, I need you to get on it and get over here, bro, literally my neighbor. You could be my neighbor. We could share a wall, that's true, I'll have to check into them. I don't know if we're quite ready. I was just reading a financial report that was saying I'll have to check into them. I don't know if we're quite ready. Well, I'll say this Getting closer More. I was just reading a financial report that was saying if you are in a position where you will be renting for fewer than like, less than the next, it was like I'm trying to remember exactly how to phrase it.

13:25 They essentially said people today who are on the fence about buckling down and buying a home or not, and if they should wait out longer, are going to be priced out in three years because of how the government is going, how the government's inflating currency. And so, because of how the government is inflating currency, and so everyone's saying, if you have the means, you should buy within the next three years, as soon as possible within the next three years, because we're not going to have a recession. Because, if we have a recession, essentially interest goes up and with interest rates up, the government can't afford to pay back on its debt to the banks.

14:10 Right, and so therefore, uh, the government will. The government's actually in a. The us government is in a very predictable, uh, precarious spot in that, like, the us government can actually go bankrupt now, which was not a situation that we are in like in 2008. Right, like when you think about financial crashes. The financial crash in 2008 was related to an economic system of the banks betting and over-leveraging themselves into buying mortgage assets, right, and the US government increased interest rates because they had to bail the banks out. What we are actually seeing right now is that the government needs to raise inflation and everyone keeps everyone employed, because if inflation goes up, wages go up, interest rate goes down and they can tax and collect taxes off of everyone who's employed.

15:07 If unemployment goes up, the government's not collecting on taxes you know income tax, right, and they're unable to pay their debt back because, as inflation goes up, your debt remains the same. So inflation is good for debt, right, right. And so if the US economy is about to go into, like crazy high rate inflation, it actually benefits you to take on debt now, because your debt will be worth less as inflation rises. That's a great point. So, anyways, everyone's saying like, if you, you, if you, if you can, you know, buckle down right now and try to buy that house. Or, you know, buy an apartment, or just you know, if you're in a position where you can start, where you can buy something, buy it, because it's going to be worth way more than what you pay for it right now.

15:57 In the next three years, because of the current situation, the government's in with having to inflate. The current situation, the government's in with having to inflate. So and I'm taking that from dudes who I like they're not political people, right, these are guys who are like just their youtube accountants, who are very serious about being youtube accountants. Um, let me pull up this one guy. I subscribed to him. He is an asian guy. I think it's called um free tax, something I can't remember. I gotta look um at his youtube account again real quick. But, uh, yeah, clear value tax. So clear value tax is usually like the dude who I watch and he's like the most like everybody.

16:42 Calm down, it's not the end of the world. Let me explain to you what's happening and over the last two months he's gone to like everybody, listen, this is really bad. The government cannot afford a recession because if there's a recession, people get laid off, there's less income tax, the government goes bankrupt. The government needs inflation and we're about to go into an inflationary cycle that's going to be very aggressive. Um, so having your money in assets like stocks, real estate, gold, silver, stuff like that is going to benefit, like us millennials, a lot right now.

17:22 Like we're about to go through essentially that hyper inflation period that our parents or grandparents went through um the 80s, yeah, 70s or 80s, exactly yeah, and where it was where it's, it's gonna go crazy. So, all that said, we'll see what happens. Just like how people are. Like I used to be able to buy a carton of eggs for a dime and now it costs a whole 95 cents. Yeah, that's what they said in the 90s, bro. We're gonna be saying I used to be able to buy a carton of eggs For $3. Now it costs $23. Yeah, that's what we're gonna be at in 3 years from now.

18:04 You know how. People don't pick up a penny off the ground. They just keep walking, even like a poor person. They're going to keep walking when that starts happening with like tens just passing up the Benjamin. Yeah it does make me think, though, that I kind of want to again. I'm not trying to doom and gloom, but it does make me think I want to start getting into like silver, just because silver, like an ounce of silver, is like 18 or 22 right now, and it fluctuates, but it it's. You know it's been going up, just like gold has over time, with inflation right that silver is always going to be worth something. Yeah, I mean, especially with inflation, it's worth more, you know, and so it's just kind of nice to have like that, rather than, like someone, be like $10, and you just have your, your $10 on a hemp.

18:49 It was like that's worthless, you know. That's as worth as much as a dollar used to be, yep. So, anyways, all I said, um bro, just come live next to me, man, I have to me, man, I have to check it out. Uh, I'm afraid that town's about to run out of resources. You think so? I don't think liquid resources. I don't think so. My man, are they figuring it out? uh, I mean, you know, my water bill is like normal. I think it's people who bought brand new homes. Here's the thing, just for you know. So we're not speaking of code. The town I live in and just moved into, some people are having like $800, $900, $1,000 water bills.

19:35 Yeah, and I think it's because they don't have non-potable water wells that they're pulling water from and they're pulling water from the city to water these big brand new lawns and like exactly and everything yeah, and so like I know, like where I live these townhomes I live in the water that is used to water the grass around and stuff like that is, uh, non-potable and it's coming off of some kind of well system that the HOA owns. So all of my water is still just water that I get charged for. That comes from, I mean, it's like the city water that's coming in, you know, for bathing and cleaning clothes and doing dishes and stuff like that.

20:18 So my water bill is like just over a hundred bucks a month, which is the same as it was for a apartment that was a third of the size. You know what? I mean, yeah, so manageable, oh way manageable. Yeah, yeah. Those people just need to shut up, stop complaining on their facebook page which is my favorite facebook page of all time. I'll be honest if I, if I a $1,000 water bill one day and it was because I was being required by my HOA to water my brand new lawn and my brand new housing development home, I would go to the HOA and I would say I'm not paying this and I'm also not paying you for a fine for not watering my lawn.

21:05 Then I would go to the water company and I would do something very patriotic where I would not hurt a single person. But I would do something very patriotic. And I'm not saying that because I don't want anyone to say I incentivize violence or anything like that, because I don't. But you know, I don't want anyone to say I incentivize violence or anything like that, because I don't. But you know, I don't know, maybe just take away their ability to track, you know the bills? Yeah, just disable their computer servers. It's pretty wild. I do love the Facebook page. Yeah, do that Facebook, that facebook dude.

21:46 There's nothing better than small town facebook pages because small town facebook pages are where people who have like no accountability and are totally like I don't give, I don't give a shit, I don't give a shit what anybody say. I'm gonna say here because everybody deserved to know about. You know, penny, sue, and it's like and like dude. They literally will be like I will be looking at like the face. I don't say anything on the facebook page. I only get on, maybe like once a month, maybe when I look at it, it's just like oh, that's the waitress, that's service student tonight. And it's just like penny sue is a total, absolute cunt. Yeah, she cheats on her man and is over at my place three days a week.

22:26 He's begging for this. Yum, yum. You're just like good god, that person had my food in their hands. And then, like you see penny sue respond and penny sue's like oh, I recognize penny sue, she's the pharmacist. And it's just like listen here, rachel, you total twat. Like they just go back and forth and it's so entertaining. This is real and it's what's funny is yeah, I'm not making it up, I'm just changing the names? is that they actually? Because it's on, commenting on the internet is like so harmless because nobody you're arguing with some guy states away. But this is like true, like people know each other, because in this like, even like in these instances, it'll be like you know, yeah, yeah, such and such is a bitch, and then, and then the other one will get on there and be like I took care of your mom when she had cancer, you ungrateful, and it's just.

23:18 And then it's just, it goes off and it is uh, it's crazy. I have a screenshot of the dead cat saga. I didn't, I didn't, I have no idea about it. All got pulled down. Oh, really, okay. So it's like did someone kill a cat or someone say my cat's dead? so basically let me remember the order of events, because as the posting happened, the mystery unfolded. Um, basically it was like it. The post starts with um, someone saying three dogs have escaped in this neighborhood, and then like, and then it keeps on going on from there. More people post about these dogs and then this other lady says those she's like, those dogs just killed my cat.

24:00 And then it keeps going on and on from there into um, then there's arguing and then somebody else comes on who's like? She's like I know the owner of the dogs. She's not going to post on here because she's so upset about what happened. Um, and so the person who had the dogs get out won't even get on there. And then the lady whose cat was dead posted a picture of the dead mauled cat and was like you all have to look at this. Look what they did to my cat. Look you bastards, Look what they did.

24:43 Look what they did to my boy. It's dude straight up and I was like, oh my god, this is all about to get deleted and I just took like a screen recording video. I'll find it and show you later that makes my dude. Literally just hearing that right now makes my the my fingers tingly in light. You know, like I, I am having a legitimate reaction to how insane that is it is, and I am. I am sad that. Well, I'm not. I'm not sad that the lady's cat died, but I do realize that is so sad I'm being insensitive, but it was. The unfolding of events was pretty entertaining you really mean that you're not said that her cat died?

25:26 you know, I'm I mean you're not an animal person at all. Maybe if I, maybe if I knew her, I'd be like man. I kind of feel bad for your cat. I just feel like it's like you know I'd say it. It turned into such a big deal. It was like it was like the loss of like a human, like just this, like all, like the whole community is in an uproar. There was the cat people, the dog people. Bro, that's honestly so insane that she was like look. Oh yeah, this is the dead cat and it is. It's crazy. That's crazy, man. Only in small town America you get stuff like that.

26:07 I do love our small town, though. I mean, I literally drive down our main road and people are like, what's a small town? I get it, you know. Someone might be like my small town is only 40 people, you know, we're basically a village of inbreds and some other people like, well, my small town is, like you know, 30,000 or a hundred thousand people. That's a small town, small city. So my, my small town's about 3000 people in close proximity and then another about 10,000 spread out across maybe a thousand square miles and, um, I think the.

26:53 I think the crazy thing about all that is that you know you can, you can have all that drama and stuff like that, but they are still pretty geographically spread out across. You know the zip code. Zip code goes all the way up to wyoming and so it's. It's a pretty large geographical area, but um, anyways, back to like just driving down. I love just driving down our single one road downtown and all the fall colors changing and like these old brick buildings, and there's, there's the italian shop, or italian like restaurant that's up for sale because the owner is getting old. The old Italian man is getting old. Our one Italian man in town who cooks Italian food is getting old and he's selling.

27:33 There's the one Mexican restaurant, the bar, the one bar and then the one diner and it's just like I don't know. It's just so peaceful, it's so content and peaceful and the facebook drama is just a stark contrast to to the relaxed, you know slow, enjoy life and drink it up. Uh, living oh yeah, definitely something said for that. They uh in different places. You know it's the classic thing of like if you raised in a small town, like people are gonna know your business, things like that, you know whatever.

28:15 But then also you get all the benefits too of like being known. When you walk in somewhere people you know recognize you, they know your name. You know that sort of thing is uh special and definitely it's like so fleeting, even in as lots of cities and towns grow and then also as like our culture shifts to where we just really don't uh care to know the person's name yeah, you know. no, I think that's 100 true, and I do find myself seeing, uh, mean, like the people who have been in my town for a while now are telling me, like how much it's changing and how much has changed over the last several years and I'm sure in the next 10 years that little town is going to be just like another mini, you know, suburb of Denver.

29:04 Like I would not be surprised. Within 10 years that town is 50,000 people absorbed. Yeah, it's just crazy how the thing spread. But anyways, with that I was gonna shout out a couple things in the news that we were talking about, I sent you some videos here and you know I work in the uh defense sector. Um, you know I'm. I work as a government consultant doing some data science stuff for the uh defense industry and dude anderil onil, however you want to pronounce it, do you know what Anduril is based off of the name of this company?

29:49 I have no idea. Really Think hard, Cause it's something I think you'll think you'll be like oh wait, I should have known that Anduril, Anduril, A N D U R I L. It's just like from imagine the story or fantasy. Imagine the? U has a little tilde on it. It's like Lord of the Rings. Yes, yeah, it's Elvish, it is yeah. Do you know where that name comes from in Lord of the Rings? I don't. So it's Aragorn's sword? Oh yeah, anduril. Yeah, okay, so it's aragon sword, oh yeah, on the real, yeah, okay, and on the real, uh in. In man tongue means uh, the flame of the west this is such a crazy name for this thing, then well, dude, like so on.

30:39 The real is a defense agency started, uh, by none other than a Palmer Lucky. Do me a favor, I'm pulling up a video here, um, and I'll I'll share with you so you can watch it, uh as well. But, uh, palmer Lucky, here is quite a guy. Uh, you look at Palmer Lucky and you're like there's no way, this is like real life. The ceo of this company, this has to be like some kind of, you know, exaggerative ceo out of like the terminator movies. But no, this is, uh, this is palmer lecky, and he is the mulleted soul patch looking Florida not Florida, but tropical shirt.

31:31 He looks like he should be at spring break. He looks like he's a boogaloo boy. He's a little old for it, but he's still going to spring break. Sure, yeah, but here's my thing, that I think about it too is like he. You know he is the original. I'll give you a little bit of background before I play the video here. But he got started by creating the Oculus Rift. He created the Oculus Rift at 19 while living in a trailer park in his camper while living in a trailer park in his camper, and he sold it for I think he sold it for $12 billion, of course to Facebook. Then he got fired because Facebook didn't like his vision, because he's a little based.

32:14 He's not politically correct. He's alluded more than once to that. He voted for Trump and that's set his company back because of how many people wanted to punish him for working in the defense sector while being a Silicon Valley company and also voting for Trump. But anyways, here's Palmer Luckey the past one, so people try to tie that to being a Trump thing. The reality is, everyone agrees that we need to know what's coming across the US border. There are people who disagree on immigration policy, but immigration policy is separate from awareness of what's coming across the border, and Anduril makes technology that we use to track drug trafficking, human trafficking, arms and cash smuggling in both directions going across the border.

33:00 Even the people who want open immigration unlimited immigration. You can walk into the United States and instantly become a citizen. There's nobody outside of a really radical fringe that thinks that the right way to accomplish that is to allow the cartels to operate unimpeded, and so if people say it's controversial, I would say the people who say it's controversial are people who have an interest in making it appear controversial. There's actually very few people who agree with them on that, but the main thing that we do is we're we're a defense product company, so andrew is trying to be the world's next major defense contractor a little bloomberg short there, but I mean he looks kind of like uh, uh, oh, what's his name? the redneck nation guy? I don't know if I know who that is, his name just lost me.

33:45 But yeah, yeah. Two billion dollars at the age of 19, that is insane. Well, is that what he he got or is that what he sold it for? That's what he sold it for. But still like that's a lot Of money that's unreal Amount of money. And he took that and still did crowdfunding and Stuff to get his company built up. I just watched a crazy interview with him where he he uh, essentially was just going all across silicon valley trying to raise capital for a defense contracting company focused in drones. And he everyone was like no, I don't want anything to do about it. Like we don't make weapons. But it's kind of crazy because it's like there's this he mentioned.

34:25 You know, he's like it's unreal to me because there's this moral high ground that like, no, we're not going to invest with a company that's, um, building bombs or weapons of war. And it's like, but you'll invest in apple that has cobalt mines, where children all day Are hunched over on their knees Mining for cobalt, like what. This is moral relativism, for sure you know what I mean. Oh, yeah, and the thing is Like his stuff is going to be Like made in A you know American factory, um, and it's going to be an American made defense product.

35:07 What do you? think, in 30 years from now, are him and Elon going to do together, going to be in charge? Of the Autobots or they're just not going to be here because they're going to leave for Mars Bro, do you remember the name of the Autobots? Or they're just not going to be here because they're going to leave for Mars? Bro, do you remember the name of the company? Sorry, I have no idea where to even begin. Right, do you remember the name of the company that created Skynet? I don't. Think about. I'm just going to.

35:48 I just want you to really dig deep into your you know what Skynet is right. Dig deep in your head. What is the industries? The industry. There is a guy named I can't remember his first name, but something Dyson. Do you remember the name of the? company Cyberdyne. Cyberdyne, cyberdyne, all right, um, and that company, cyberdyne, you know, was the company that built skynet to be like an assistant ai, but also designed it to help be like a defense contracting ai. Um, and a big thing with that uh was, you know, automated weapons, automated drones, autopiloted drones. And I think one of the craziest things is that there's now a company out there making this mini, uh, dragonfly drone, um, and they're called teledyne and I'm just like, come on, guys, like like, do not chance it.

36:44 Like dude, I quit, quit dancing, and so, and this is like a little mini drone with like a flare camera on it that is like literally the size of, you know, probably, I mean it's bigger than a hummingbird, but it's probably no bigger than like, uh, you know, from what I've seen, it looks to be about the size of like a. Um, what are those black and white birds? Not, they're like magpie. Yeah, it looks to be like the size of a magpie and you can easily put five grams of explosives in it and just have it go into like a window or down a chimney and just ruin someone's day. Um, but, uh, this other one I sent you this was andrew's uh new bolt m drone. So I sent you this short and you know people watching online will be able to see it.

37:27 We'll throw it up, uh, but dude, this is the precision remote piloted by ai targeting a single passenger in a vehicle. Yeah, piloted by. This is not piloted by a human. Damn it, dude, tell me you're not flipped out hearing that after watching this. That just switched my like. I was so excited about seeing this Claymore in the shape of a Mavic Pro. Oh, it's wild. Yeah, one more time. I'm going to let it play over one more time, bro, because like you just see it and you're like, okay, it explodes above that car, and then you see it's like wait a second, those are ball bearings going through the windshield, the sunroof, mm-hmm.

38:14 Look at that dude. Ooh and bro, no other vehicle is going to. okay, you might get some scratches on the cars around you, but like they're not getting hit by those ball bearings, no, yeah, I mean yeah, like if you're bumper to bumper traffic, someone else is gonna get hurt, but otherwise, no, that is, that's pretty targeted and for like the size of it, like the and the devastation of it and the fact that, oh man, I thought it was so cool till I learned that it was autonomously until the system decides. Pat has said too much. It just sends it after you, wow you know, you know, when covet started, I said I don't know, because we weren't talking that much when COVID started but someone brought it up this was October of 2019, so super early, and I was just like like an idiot.

39:13 I was like I was kind of excited to see what happens. And then the world got a little bit wild, had some close personal touches with it as well, anyway. So I don't know if I want to just toss it out there again, but I mean, heck, what are you going to do? You just kind of got to be. No, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm buying a bird gun. I got my upland over under baby. You just got to be a little bit excited about it. It's terrifying, we baby you just gotta be a little bit excited about like it's. It's terrifying, yeah, we can't change that. So, uh, just get excited about it, bro. Do you remember terminator salvation? Did you watch that one with, like, the motorcycle terminators? That's what I'm fucking terrified for sorry, pardon, my, I'm terrified for that.

39:57 And uh, the terminator that looks like it's a autobot with an excavator crane that just scoops people up and puts them in cages to take back to the robots Unreal. Like Terminator Salvation was like a very mildly okay movie compared to like Terminator 2. But on its own you watch it and you're like, wow, the concepts of these machines and how like sophisticated they are with. Like tracking people is one very cool. But two, you watch that movie and you're like that was ahead of its time in science fiction when it came out. That is outdated now. Like I could easily see the you know, uh, remotely powered tesla.

40:41 Uh, you know what would? They call them? Not bicycles, they call them something cooler like omni wheels. You know, I mean it. Like just be like and see those, just like going across the desert chasing after a destination. But, um, all right. So I just sent you another one here. This one is crazy. This one is like what's cool is like here's how you make yourself like an insanely wealthy company, especially in the defense industry. Create a weapon, then be the only person who can create a counter to that weapon. Yeah, sell them both at unreal amounts to both sides, not both sides, but just I mean so.

41:24 So here's, I'll say this here's the cool thing about um our guy uh lucky yeah, um, he is a red-blooded american and there's an ad that he did here for the barracuda uh m system that is essentially like he believes America is very outdated when it comes to automated and AI integrated platforms and his whole mentality is like shoring up America's defenses, not necessarily offenses, and so his whole design philosophy for his company and everything here is to essentially build like products that defend america and like the whole idea is like that one that we just saw with the claymore on its back, that one uh would be used to essentially, you know, offensively defeat an offensive mobile platform.

42:21 So a vehicle driving at a base of soldiers or at a you know uh, let's say it's a vehicle that's been identified as having, you know, a suicide or bomber and it's driving towards a concert venue and it's bobbing and weaving through traffic and you're like, well, we can't just predator that shit because we predator drone that we're taking out that. You know, we're taking out i-25 and gonna, you know, cripple colorado in the economy and probably kill another like 50 people in collateral. So what you do is you send that drone with the claymore on it to take out that one vehicle and it's cleaned up in two hours and no one's the wiser. Yeah, and so that's what. That's like the philosophy of all of his approaches here for these drones, which is cool.

43:03 Which is cool because the ai, hopefully, is being programmed with. Like the philosophy of all of his approaches here for these drowns, which is cool. Which is cool Because the AI, hopefully, is being programmed with this mentality of defense. Yeah, defense, don't just be going out hunting. You know what I mean. So do you have this one open? Of the Roadrunner? Yeah, yeah, it is. Did you already watch it? I was playing a little bit, I'm ready for it. You sound a biscuit you weren watch it. I was playing a little. I'm ready for some biscuit. You weren't supposed to watch it, I'm sorry. The uh, this peter, uh peter lucky looks like danny mcbride on the jet ski he kind of does, I think he looks. I think he looks way more youthful and it's a mix I think, he's kind of like I think he's very handsome. Oh yeah, but also, do you know who ryan upchurch is?

43:43 He's a youtuber, whatever, but it's a ryan. Do you know who Ryan Upchurch is? He's a YouTuber or whatever, but it's a mix of Ryan Upchurch and Danny McBride. Okay, all right. Roadrunner launches out of a mobile platform system. It's an interceptor variant, the Roadrunner M, and it's honestly flying around looking like a. It kind of looks like it's got a cape, like its fins are really wide. Single operator can supervise multiple roadrunners and they're capable of intercepting jet powered threats. Look at this dude. Look at the way it intercepts this jet. It's, in a case, the size of a Yeti.

44:23 Yeah, jet, it's in a case the size of a yeti. Yeah, it does. It just drops something off in the flight path of that rocket and it returns to base baby self lands reusable, self-lens reusable. Look at, bro, that's. You know what's crazy. That's exactly how superman lands it's like it's wow uh, it's unreal to me right now. What I'm looking at, dude, it's like actually like that's out of a movie pardon my french, but it's basically a big black dildo.

45:07 Yeah, it kind of is. That is superman. Yeah, that's what this thing is. It's in, um, look it up the andrew road, uh, andrew roadrunner, and it is kind of want one, kind of want one this is be sick one I'd be sick to have one. I mean it's funny because, like you know, like under when does your 2A run out? You know like, yeah, to have the drone with the claymore, um, you gotta have some sort of something. Some they got an. There's some classifications or licensing or something going on there but, anyways, um my gosh, they have all sorts of things, yeah bro, to dig into.

45:56 I'm gonna send you the barracuda one. This is the craziest man that we live in a day and age where there is straight up a cel-shaded anime commercial for a cruise missile. So here one second while I share this to you. But I saw this, I was like this is not real and I was like, wow, what a time to be alive. Have you seen? Have you heard of the meme like before GTA 6? Like I haven't yet. We got Donald Trump as a president before GTA 6 came out. We got you know XYZ before GTA 6 came out and a lot of people were like commenting on this video like bro, we got cel-shaded defense contractor cruise missile commercials before GTA 6 came out yeah all right, you ready.

46:47 All right, I'm, yeah, playing it now this looks like the intro for kim possible mass production, producing at a cheap cost.

47:29 It's just like what's that gundam? you know it does look like a freaking modern gundam cartoon. All my anime stopped in uh 1999. Yeah, all my references wow that's wild. No, like watch. Look at all the other ones. Oh, oh, man. That's the crazy thing to me is that um the in a presentation he did I don't think it's in that video, but in a presentation he did he went over how, um, as current estimates of, like the us defense network of interceptor missiles, uh, they would be depleted in a nine day war with china, like within nine days we would exhaust all resources of uh interceptor and uh intercontinental uh intercepting like defense weapons because of how much china has offensive right and probably how much we haven't had like, like in israel's case iron dome baby like necessary to have, yeah, a very large, like you know and that's what well, I mean that is crazy is like you we look at.

48:45 Israel isn't having like those massive iron dome knights fending off tens of thousands of missiles. I don't even know if it was tens of thousands, I think in the most they did in a night was like two, three thousand. Less, but yeah, but still. Yeah, I mean a lot, but yeah, not like a, not in. It's been sustained now, but not in those large scale barrages when, if it was a thousand a night right where you deplete your stuff pretty quick. Well, yeah, and like that's what I'm saying, like, if likerael probably doesn't have the means to do that for 30 days, right and that, but that's like what andrew's trying to do.

49:25 Andrew's trying to essentially set up like scaled to cost and demand defense network uh, for us and out us allies of, like, essentially, a defense missile network that, like, these aren't going to be the missiles you send to take down, you know, an, a massive base that's heavily fortified and well defended. For you know, this isn't what you would send to like an airfield, right, this is like what you keep on your home turf, this is what you put on top of the White House, right, right, and you can launch a thousand of these to intercept a thousand, like a thousand ballistic missiles flying towards Washington DC, and so, like that, or like a lot of them, like I've heard the argument made, like you would work with civilian flight paths.

50:14 You would work with civilian flight paths. So if, like, someone was using drone warfare to target civilian commercial flights, then you would use these to then enter, be intercepting those drones that would be essentially lying in wait to hit those planes as they're taking off or landing, cause the drones wouldn't go up and try to intercept them at, you know, 21,000 feet altitude, off or landing because the drones wouldn't go up. And try to intercept them at, you know, uh, 21 000 feet altitude, you know the drones would, but the drones would be around airports and flying in to intercept them, you know, as planes are coming in and taxiing, and so like you'd have this set up to literally like just be something that like people get used to, right, like just imagine you're at dia and you just see like a little orange bloom, another orange bloom, and it's like not even an announcement at the airport it's just like it's just like yeah, what it is yeah, someone was out there doing shit and those things flew and blew them up yeah it was like no one thinks about it anymore.

51:15 Yeah, that's the craziest thing um, and I think back to the Israel point too, kind of getting close to that in some ways, mentality where planes are flying in and out of there and stuff is being intercepted and then taking it to a whole new level of this type of stuff. Man, I mean, this guy the big dogs have to hate this guy. Know, lockheed, boeing raytheon I think. I mean, I think they're pretty impressed and also threatened by you know what he's able to pull off. Um, let me see here this black hornet video.

51:55 I think is uh, it's a little bit longer than I like. I'm looking for essentially, an example of the Black Hornet from Teledyne. This will work. I'll open this in to you. You can just kind of skim through it. But this is essentially Teledyne, which, again, I'm just like guys, come on, pick a different name, pick benevolent AI. They knew what they were doing. Yeah, I mean they do, and they're like, it's kind of like, what is that story about? The? You know, it's like a Greek story about that guy tempting the gods by, like, essentially, you know, calling upon them. It's essentially like strike me down.

52:36 It's like why tempt it, bro? Um yep, all right, it came through yep, so the black hornet 4 nano uav, the future of battlefield reconnaissance. We just got this On body case For this UAV. The size of a coke can. Look at that thing in his index finger and thumb. So we got guys like Breaching a building stacked up and he just sends this little coke can Size drone up. Surveillance Palm pad screen up and he just sends this little coke can sized drone up.

53:22 Surveillance Palm pad screen with camera view. I love that it actually looks like it's not a quadcopter, it's actually a helicopter. I love that it's not CGI Like. This is the real thing in use. I have that ladder. I'm sure they're legitimately also picking this setting to look like Ukraine. Everything's a video game. I mean. That's the interface that most young men going into combat are familiar with. You know what I mean and it's yeah, it's better little joystick action.

54:05 I'll send it through the trench. It's so small, yeah like you, you wouldn't. I don't even know like how you would notice that, bro. You know how, like you have, you have a hard time noticing dragonflies with depth perception and how they can move laterally and in a in a war zone. Yeah, they really are. Did make this look like ukraine on purpose. My goodness the trenches. I wonder what the battery life is on this thing uh, someone said 100 minutes. That's impressive, that's unreal, bro, for like something that small, you gotta imagine the majority of its weight is the battery and it has.

54:50 It has a the world's smallest thermal camera. Now the resolution looks sounds like garbage 650 by 650 by 512. But when you see it and you realize like, oh, all you really need is to have contrast with that thermal camera. You don't need to have a perfect silhouette, you just need to know what's going on. There's orange stuff over there yeah, man, that's wild. You see that this is basically, it's like its main thing. It's surveillance, right, that's the yeah, but I mean, like I think there I think it was a legitimate effort to not demonstrate it being packed with explosives, but, like dude, it would not take many explosives to make that thing super lethal.

55:33 No, not at all like this is gonna like, imagine, like the real paranoia of the 21st century battlefield. Like we, we have not even approached the late stages of what the 21st century battlefield is gonna be. And dude, people are gonna stop building houses with chimneys. You know what I mean yeah like if you can have a, if you can have a drone the size of a small bird, fly down in it with a few grams of explosives and just fly and and like land on your chest while you're sleeping. You wake up, look down, you just see it there camera apertures on your face and then boom like that's.

56:15 That's crazy, bro. That is we're in a whole different. You know ballpark when it comes to modern warfare. Now it's crazy and I guess I'm trying to figure out too, because it's flare. It's a flare camera, yeah, but like is was teledyne, the company that came out with flare originally in the first place. Like I don't know, because it's because flare's, not a flare's not I think they just specialize in uh flare cameras because, but like I thought, flare was a company, not a type maybe I'm um. No, I think flare just stands for something ir um.

56:57 Texas instruments made the first ford looking infrared camera. Yeah, okay, okay for forward looking infrared all right. So I see now this makes more sense but kirby taylor. Thank you, sir texas instruments bro, love those guys, but the logo on all the flare stuff. Now, like they might have um, like copyrighted the um, or trademarked the acronym. You think so? I think so because all their every if you just look up any flare camera is for sale is these guys. There's some other, there's other stuff out there that you can use, but the majority of stuff like, even like they have what they sell, one that I have that just clicks into the bottom of your iphone.

57:42 You know that I use for, I use for construction, but the um, I don't know. I'll look at that more. It might be. I wonder if it's like gore tex. You know how like yeah, like gore, tex is now copyright or not copyright, but it's a trademarked. Yeah, and so they're on like their logos on anything. Any company that uses their tech, I don't know, but whatever, that's wild. That thing was pretty impressive, especially if the flight time's that long. That's probably one of the most impressive pieces, for how tiny it is. I'm going to show you this one. This is like the big one too. This is like by Ond under real. Again, we're going back to andreal, but this is their ghost x uav and it's like uh again, like really cool.

58:26 I'm sure you could put grenades on it and ruin someone's day, but it is, you know, like it's a. It's as small as you can get with a very quiet, high-tech helicopter that has really good flight time and is pretty packable. This thing's the size of I don't know. It says it has a 25 kilometers operating range and can carry 25 pounds for payload, a payload capacity, uh, it's very adaptable to weather environments it's like six feet long with a. It's like a helicopter with a rotor and a tiller, but yeah but it's not like a real.

59:09 Honestly, the way it looks to me is like get a ma deuce browning machine gun and put a helicopter road around it and that's kind of like what it looks like. Mm-hmm, this thing is how much do these things cost? and put a helicopter rotor on it and that's kind of like what it looks like this thing is. How much do these things cost? Five times less for us. Adjustable rail mount. Yeah, it is five times less for us. It's going to be five times more for our allies and 20 times more for our competitors in the warfare. Whoa, there you go Missile systems on board on the wings. Okay, so that was pretty sick. What was that? One minute? Yeah, they don't even say can be outfitted with weapons. They're just like flexible effects delivery.

59:53 What? It's a tiny helicopter. Look at it though. They show it taking off in the rain. It's pretty sick. 90 minutes of cruise effective range. I mean, dude, this is unreal to me. Man like this is, I get like a lot of people probably gonna see this like, yeah, it makes sense, they could do this if they could do it with the tiny one. But I'm just like thinking like, bro, it was in my lifetime that the uh octagonal eight rotor film drones that weigh 2,000 pounds were invented so they could get high altitude elevation drone shots.

1:00:36 And here we are now with, like, this system. It's pretty unreal. Like what are you going to do? Like just imagine, like imagine, you're just chilling and there's two of these. One is just literally doing targeting information and getting best like pro, like a best trajectory path to the target, and it is just getting a full 360 uh, we're not, yeah, yeah, full 360 degree identification of the environment around the target, relaying that information to the other one that's just posted up with missiles on its wings and like they're just cooperating autonomously without any pilot interference what I'm feeling watching this is like that robot in on hoth and empire strikes back that pops up.

1:01:26 It's the weird, like spidery looking one yeah, I know what you're talking about, but like this looks like the same thing to me that han solo has to shoot with his blaster damn bro, there he goes, drops a payload right on that truck. Oh well, it's not gonna show us. I guess it just showed them drop it. But it was a dummy one. Yeah, it's very unsettling, man, like it's like supremely unsettling, with how they make those trailers to look like I mean they're even using, like 80s, you know, percussion synth music tracks. Like it's very reminiscent of, you know, every action 80s movie and then like to have two flying in formation rise into frame, just like a fucking patchy gun ship in the orange sunset like rise and bank.

1:02:15 Yeah, they know what they're doing they're, they're playing on my nostalgia. Uh, it's working. I'm rooting for the robots. Um, pretty crazy, pretty crazy anyways. Those, I think, were the main things. I was saying you that I wanted to go over, um, just because I was so impressed with that like demonstration, and again, like this came out like over a month ago, but it's making the rounds now as, like, more and more videos from his demonstration and speech are making the circuit. But, um, just pretty crazy stuff. Hey, andrew, hit your boy up, love to.

1:02:56 We'll love to be on your side of it would love to have my name and you know freaking address programmed into the defense code for that, you know, I mean like world war three falls apart and I just have like five of those drones show up to protect my house wouldn't be a bad fail safe protocol yeah, no kidding it is. It is insane to think about, like I don't know, the the technology advancements were like playing on an original game boy. You know, yeah, and now you have this what it's insane, it's crazy.

1:03:39 I do kind of wonder, like I do want to look up to like, um, you know, in in just the 20th century, what war did to change how we build houses in cities? I mean because war, uh, with cannons, were essentially the end of castles, right, you know. I mean people were like, well, there's no reason to really build these walls and castles anymore. Might as well build outwards. We don't need to like pile everyone in in tight, tiny corners and small roads behind these giant stone walls to keep troops out. Because, turns out, it's actually pretty bad to be in the castle walls when cannons are blowing brick and mortar down on your head.

1:04:25 Um, and so then, like, we started expanding outward again and started like I mean honestly, like if you want to really be like, particular gunpowder is the reason we have suburbs. I was watching a thing on that of like the expansion and space of Building neighborhoods Is a direct result from like way back when gunpowder got introduced, essentially, and cannons came around and people were like Maybe we should spread people out, you know, more low to the ground structures, not tall, narrow structures, definitely, cause I mean, yeah, lots of uh, yeah, if you go travel europe, other old places that have old architecture like that you you are defending against arrows and spears and and people with you know swords and so a great way to ruin a sword guy's day is to have a very tall, narrow structure that he cannot swing and get up.

1:05:21 Like. He can't just walk up it very easily, he'd kill him with a rock, exactly. Or just like a little hot oil on the head. Stand on stairs, a spiral staircase that's not very wide for him to swing on. He comes around the stairs and you just, you know, throw a rock down the stairs or jab around it with a spear. Um, yeah, it's just so. I just wonder, like what else has changed in? Like in our century, like drones are gonna have to somehow change the environment. Like what if drones bring back the whole concept of like growing big ass trees over your house? Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Or like someone creates some kind of mesh, like a transparent fish wire net that goes up over it, that can be deployed very easily.

1:06:08 So it's like, oh, drones are coming in and blowing up people's houses. You just deploy your net so it catches the drones in the middle of the night. Yeah, I don't know bro and I and it's hard to, because at this point what's weird too, because there's not the warfare piece is a huge part of it, and then the cultural pieces of it are just like ability to be an individual sufficient on your own, like I have a, I have multiple vehicles, have, uh, I have multiple vehicles some disposable income and, uh, I can order anything that shows up on my doorstep the next day. It's like all those types of things too. Now we're like, have allowed us to become so, um, not reliable comfortable and also not reliant on the people around us.

1:06:59 Yeah, like you know where it would have been back in the day. You know the the tribe from over the hills coming, so everybody get inside the walls. Cowabunga dude. Yeah, we're gonna fight them off, right? Yeah and uh. And then the technological advancements make it where you go. Well, what the hell do I do against any of that? you know, and then we live in the empire so we don't have to worry about any of it. You know, at the moment, I mean, so we also, we don't take into consideration some of these things, like other places might, um, and so it will be interesting to see how, if and when, yeah, where people start thinking differently about how they get ready for things like this that were, uh, just not a consideration, just like how a castle wall, like you're saying, no one knew about a mortar, right you know, cannon pointed straight up, it's going to come down in there and uh, uh, but then once things, certain things become mainstream, then what?

1:08:03 and even like uh, oh, there's, there's a company coming out with this. Uh, I'm so not tech savvy, I don't even know what it does, but it's basically like it's a device that you can set up in your neighborhood and like they're selling it to hoas right now because you can set up in your hoa and it will. It's emp proof. It'll keep you online via satellites, um, and it just it was like the internet but like local. It's like local internet, yeah, but it still keeps you up on you. I mean, obviously if satellites go down, that's different, but if your local cell phone network goes down, everything else goes down, you still have everything, just as if nothing happened.

1:08:49 I can't remember what it's exactly called, but that has been something that I've seen a lot of prep channels like YouTube, prepper channels going over of, like hey, you and your guys can have your own private internet that, like, is online and free. If you just have these, if you just have these products and keep them turned on, no matter what happens, you're gonna have it like a network of communications where you can text and stuff, yep, regardless of cell towers. And I was like huh, that's pretty sick. And then now it sounds like people really caught on to that and they're like hey, like community of 2 000 homes, you can stay online in an emergency network. You know, call amongst yourselves, whatever, right, which is kind of weird, because I think we're starting to get to this point.

1:09:32 I think I think we reached at email. I think email was when we reached the pinnacle of hey, it doesn't matter how far away we are, we can always stay in touch. And, like that, encouraged people to be comfortable with going away from loved ones and home and spreading out. And. I think technology is getting to the point where it's so scary and we're so dependent on it that it like solutions are being proposed that, no matter how bad it gets, as long as you got people close by, as long as you and the people you love are within a five, 10 mile radius of each other, you're're gonna stay online, you're gonna have your power, you're gonna have your solar panels, you're gonna have your internet, you're gonna have your com system.

1:10:23 And it's weird, it's like. It's like it's becoming insular again, of like, and it's almost like. I think I like it. I like the concept of it, like rebounding from, like, oh, you can spread out and get as far away from your family as you want and still maintain an email or a phone call. And I was like no, no, no, no, no. We should still like stay really close together. Because now we have this technology that, no matter how bad it gets, like I won't have to like run 10 miles to your house to see if you're okay, like we'll always have the comm system Right, and it is like kind of like a rubber band stretching and pulling back in on itself. It feels like and I don't know if that's just a generational thing, you know, but that's that is the vibe I'm seeing a lot of right now and because it is crazy.

1:11:09 Like think about when's the last time you were with a group of people and you went somewhere and you made a plan for later that day, like how to meet up, meaning, like you know, all right, mexico, yeah for sure. But like, and also, you might be the type of person who would make a plan. Well, I mean, it was like it was literally like Mexico on mission trips, as in like high school. Right, so that's the last time. I can remember it. Exactly so a while ago too, and being like you know, you know, as a kid I remember all the time it was all right like everybody here by three o'clock. If you're not here by three, like we're coming to look for you. I think like you're gonna be kind of in trouble, I'm gonna be in trouble, and then and that was you know, so, like you know, young events stuff too, and then, like you know, even as adults at the time would still make plans too, like hey, if we like at the mall, if we like meet, meet at the annie ann's in 30 minutes, and that's just the plan, like that, and you stick to the plan.

1:12:05 And other people are, um, also, um, depending on you to stick to the plan. And so there was a. There wasn't just a convenience fact. We gained a convenience factor by being able to just text or even, heck, find my friends and then go find someone over in the other side of the mall. But there's a like. I feel like there's a, a, a, a social psychology component to how groups work together and thought about each other, even in this micro example of okay, this is the plan, I have to stick to it. Other people are depending on me. There is no other way forward.

1:12:47 There's no other thing that we're going to do, like, even if I'm having a really fun time over at the mini golf place, I'm gonna be at the indians at three o'clock, like that's like the like, that sort of thing, and so and obviously I'm using this small example. But then where does that extend out into how people consider and think about others? You know, because it's just, it's gotten so easy. Yeah, like even, oh, my, you know, whoever is traveling out of the country, no big deal, I'll just check, just check, find my friends. I can see them right there. I can FaceTime them, you know. Well, and I think that's the weird thing too, is that I think more and more often now it's not just me being the paranoid guy of like I don't want that on, I think.

1:13:30 I think people are turning that off because they they are now starting to have the fear of like who's watching, and I don't want anyone other than my close family friends knowing where I'm at and I'll tell them where I'm at, um, and I will have an insular connection with them about my location that doesn't just say, hey, mick's phone is here, right, and so, like I I've Never had to find my friends tracker or anything turned on any of my phones or devices, because I just don't like that idea Of anything with access to that application and ID being able to geo track me.

1:14:11 Now they're still tracking me, like there's still pinging me Off of my watch or my phone, right, it's out of principle. It is out of it is out of principle of just like make it one step difficult, more difficult, right, um, but it is one of those things too, of like I also like the idea of like no one is going to be relying on a find my friends app to know if I'm okay or or anything like that in an emergency, like what they're going to be relying on is like my word and my plan of action and what I've communicated to them, which I think is a far better plan than just something saying, well, he's either dead or alive, but he's right here. You know what I mean.

1:14:51 So it's kind of I don't know. But sorry, while we're talking about this, I'm going to share this video with you. I saw earlier today Um, it is. It's called Overland AI. Have you seen this? I have not. This is a company. This is unreal to me. They only have seven and just under 700 subscribers on YouTube, but they are the leaders, quote unquote, they are the leaders of real off-road autonomy. I've been watching their videos, man, and it really does look like their vehicles are completely automated and can be manually overcome to be driven manually, but they're essentially just creating ai driven and navigated um overland vehicles that are just like uh, what are they called?

1:15:44 Like the rhinos you know I'm talking about. Like the dual cab, um, roll cage, all-terrain vehicles. We are the leaders of real off-road, all train vehicles. So they're using I don't know what map system they're using, what GPS system they're using If they're using preset coordinates of you know, essentially like flag post to flag post, of you know, essentially like flag post a flag post. But, bro, seeing a car like being able to handle navigation with no roads is pretty unreal to me, because I I know how basic vehicle navigation works of using roads and signage and gps coordinates.

1:16:37 But here's the thing, man, like those gps coordinates are so heavily refined for roads and streets. Right, you know, we've been think about, like I think we've had google earth going around taking pictures for gps systems since I was in middle school, like so, like 2006, 2007 and how often they're still out. I see a google, the google car, like all the time they're constantly updating um, and so to me I'm wondering like, what are these things using to navigate overland? Because this is not nearly as defined and clear and, uh, rel, uh, well documented for you know, actual data, data points of navigation for real and like isn't that nuts.

1:17:30 Like tell me that's not sick, can you? Because here's the thing that, okay, immediately, here's where I got to with it, right right, me and Pat having to, you know, just charge out of the wood line. Pat's got our freaking boy, rice Aroni, on his shoulders and we're just running. And as we're running, I'm just hearing overcombs, freaking Dean, just like it's pulling up and like we just see like tearing up mud coming off of like out of like around the bushes, just a fully automated Rhino. And we just put Rice-A-Roni in the back. I'm providing cover fire. Rice-a-roni now is able to provide cover fire from the rear back guard.

1:18:11 You and I are both able to get in the driver passenger, provide cover fire and the thing's driving itself. I don't need to worry about hand on the wheel, gas pedal, brake pedal, gear shift, oh all by awesome need to draw my sidearm to put a few rounds. It's like I think this is the craziest thing because, like it really was this ad here for overland ai that made me realize, like holy smokes, imagine a cop who just has a fully ai piloted, assisted, like cruiser, a true kit, like a true cruiser. That is like, yeah, officer, pat, I will make sure that you have the most opportune moment for making the shot to save the hostage and, like that, cruiser is freaking night rider exactly it's night rider.

1:18:53 It is putting you in a position where you don't need to worry about the multitask. For anyone who doesn't understand the complexity of trying to drive a car in a high stress offensive engagement, take an offensive driver's course for, like one saturday. It's not that hard. You can probably find them in any major city near you, like any capital city, and you go practice in a parking lot and you will realize like holy smokes, hand on the gear shift, hand on the wheel pedal and gas oh sorry, breaking gas, maybe even emergency break in there, is insanely difficult to coordinate across, let alone if you're working with something that has manual transmission. Now imagine you're a police officer or in a defensive situation and you're also having to take a hand off of one of those things at some moment in time to draw the firearm and engage.

1:19:44 That is bonkers, oh yeah. Now imagine you don't have to worry about any of that other than sight picture and drawing your firearm. You know what I mean? It's crazy and like I think this overland ai was. The thing that I really saw was like dude, we're gonna be seeing this literally in. You know, aerial reconnaissance footage, uh, documenting missions of you know, some of our jsoc teams or you know, uh, dev group guys. They're gonna be working with ai piloted overland vehicles and they don't have to worry about driving. They're able to do triage on a kit buddy and as well as do covering fire without having to worry about turning or twisting the wheel, which is unreal to me, like that's crazy.

1:20:31 So oh, yeah, uh turns out it was cool to be in robotics club you know it turns out robotics club when you were in middle school making that lego was on point a to point b it was insanely advantageous to where we're at today, um, which I think is like everyone probably thought robotics club was dumb or lame, just because they're like, yeah, we're not gonna be able to do like the cool stuff in the movies where it's like terminator, and here we are you know I mean um pivoting, totally pivoting. I wanted to hear your thoughts. Did you read this article about the montana rancher?

1:21:12 I sent you there's a couple different things about this article that are you could dive into, and I'm torn on how I feel about it. Because, on one hand, you want to one day be able to hunt a T-Rex. Well, not that so much. Well, let's give him a breakdown of you want to summarize it for him? yeah, essentially this. This absolute badass revealing my bias immediately, this absolute insane Chad named Arthur, quote-unquote, goes by Jack Shubareth, shubareth, shubareth.

1:21:59 How would you say that? Yeah, shubareth, arthur, we'll call him Jack. That's why he goes by Jack because his last name is so hard to say. Yeah, no kidding. So Jack cloned some illegally imported genetic material from Marco Polo Argali to create hybrid sheep that would draw higher prices from hunting preserves in Montana, um, and he has now been sentenced to six months in prison for his entire operation. But essentially, bro, he's illegally importing the sperm and genetic materials of these Marco Polo sheep, which are massive. I mean, I'm looking at pictures of these things and I'm sure, pat, you know.

1:22:45 Twice the size of like a bighorn. Well, yeah, throw them up on. Like you know, you could probably throw some pictures up that are like, not copyrighted, right or something. I mean these things look to be about the size of like, like some cattle, if not at least the size of some deer. You know what I mean. Like these are mountain sheep the size of deer and like their horns are spiraling, sometimes a full two circuits, which is just unreal man, they're massive. Which is just unreal man, they're massive, but anyway.

1:23:34 So Jack imports their genetic material and starts impregnating some mountain sheep embryos to create a hybrid species here in the United States. And apparently he got a little out of hand with it and he originally was doing it to have them on his hunting preserve where people could come and hunt on his hunting preserve and hunt these massive sheep, bigger sheep than anywhere else in America. He didn't outright say the Marco Polo hybrid sheeps, he just said you know, hey, you could come to my reserve and hunt these, hunt these sheep that are huge, you know, through breeding. And apparently some of these sheep got out and beyond Montana in some wildlife officers I don't really know if it says specifically who, like which department it was, but I started seeing these dead sheep and they're like, wait a second, this is not like a north american mountain goat, like this thing's big.

1:24:22 And they started doing dna testing and they're like, wait a second, this is coming up back as like part marco polo, what the hell? And they? They zeroed in on like the density and just kind of tracked these sheeps and traced them all the way back to good old Jack in Montana. It was the US Fish and Wildlife Service Office of Law Enforcement that found them and they seem to have also, like you know, caused some issues. Like two of them died from chronic wasting disease, which is, of course, a very, you know, severe problem for certain populations of you know animals that we like to hunt and you know severe problem for certain populations of uh, you know animals that we like to hunt and you know conservation efforts, um, but uh, it just like you know he's getting essentially prosecuted for one doing something illegal of importing, you know species illegally to creating this like hybrid species, for you know financial gain, quote-unquote.

1:25:16 Uh, and like the last one is just like not being able to uh properly follow procedure for uh, these kind of like preserves that we have here for hunting, because all these things got out, and unfortunately it wasn't just in this smithsonian article, but there's another one I read where, like, apparently they didn't say they killed them all, but um, department of fish and wildlife said that they have contained, uh, all of the hybrid sheep, which makes me believe that they killed them all, which is kind of a bummer, cause you just think, like you know that there's life that came into creation, uh, and it's kind of sick. You know there's life that came into creation and it's kind of sick.

1:26:00 You know, like it's like it is new, it's a new genus of an animal that like sure contain it. Don't let it get out, but like let people hunt it, you know, study it. See, like you know, I don't know it is on one hand quote unquote people will say it's plain God, and I'm, on the other hand, I'm like look, if God didn't want us to genetically splice and mix and match things, then like it wouldn't be happening. Yeah, I think that is a slippery slope. It is a slippery slope, but I'm just saying like I don't think there's any like we do the same thing with dogs and cats. I don't think there's any like we do the same thing with dogs and cats. I don't think it's wrong to do it with sheep and like hunting, like animals of interest.

1:26:45 For sure, and I think that the different areas here for me are, you know, I'll start off with kind of the parts that are hard for me, which would be one the dudes. It's hard for me to see any old person go to jail in general. The guy is 81 years old. Yeah so that is like you know. It's kind of like I don't know that in in anyway. So um, and I'd say for also maybe a crime like this. There's other crimes that you get to go to jail for forever or, in my opinion, get to be exterminated forever, but in a crime like this, anyways, it's hard for me to see old people go to jail, the other piece being the.

1:27:34 In some ways, this is something that at a certain point in time, would have been celebrated, like the cross breeding of a species and the um, this new thing being released. And so you know, if it was um, I feel like back in the day, this, you know, if you were cross breeding or genetically enhancing something, it'd be celebrated. And so, in back in the day too, you can kind of do whatever you want. It was a brave new world out there, but now there's lots of uh people in charge of what you can and can't do. That being said, we've also learned a lot from our mistakes of why you can and can't do stuff.

1:28:17 So you know, speaking to uh, sheep populations in America are declining due to disease and um and a couple other factors, you know. But when you have uh, we take pretty seriously our wildlife populations and other things getting in the mix, messing things up. Um, you know, even like, like when you travel to Hawaii, like you can't even bring an apple in right Cause you could wreck, like if the wrong thing gets in there you could wreck their whole ecological um you, you know thing they have going on. So, you know, the guy messed up big time and he's he is playing god a little bit and there's that's like a whole nother, like conversation that he's not really even getting in trouble for one way or the other, but like the biggest thing he's getting in trouble for is, um, you know, illegally transporting genetic material.

1:29:11 And then the next one being that these sheep are going to get out and change what we do have, which is like we have our own species of sheep. So eventually, so when you do mess with these things, you're going to have repercussions for our sheep populations and which are a really special thing in North America. I got to stop you there, pat. I have to All right, I have to speak up for all my men at home men and women probably who want to hunt saber-toothed tigers, oh yeah. And so I mean, pat, I get the moral relativistic.

1:29:53 And so I mean, pat, I get the moral relativistic. This is an impact on the current established ecosystem and ecological balance and the food chain and the way things interact. The butterfly effect of altering one aspect of this could cause a catastrophe. Given the opportunity to hunt a saber-toothed tiger or a freaking, uh short, uh short snouted cave bear, or a woolly mammoth or a woolly rhinoceros, would you not be like, yeah, bring them back a dire wolf, a wolf the size of a bear, right? I would take the opportunity to hunt it if it was already I'm taking a cop out. And so I would take the opportunity to hunt it.

1:30:34 If it was already I'm taking a cop-out answer. I would take the opportunity to hunt it. You suck, you suck. I'm practicing my being a politician. If I could, if they existed, I'd go hunt them. But like the Mr Pat, we have the technology. Yeah, to rebuild. Yeah, okay, all right, keep going, but. I think that, yeah, okay, all right, keep going, but I I think that, um, um, like I was saying before, I'm torn, because I think that what he did is kind of cool, it's kind of sick. It's like kind of sick is like his lasting life legacy, like a wild scientist, yeah, man, to like breed these sheep, um grand. At the same time, I do think that it's also kind of like every mad scientist movie where like and they have like the right motive, like most mad scientists aren't like, like in very many situations, aren't seeking to like destroy the world, they're just like this must be done, you know, and then they do it, but then it escapes the lab, you know, and then the repercussions of that thing getting out of the lab are then detrimental, and so that's what we had.

1:31:46 We literally had that situation happen here where they got out and they and they said they killed all of them. I'll tell you this did they say, did you read another article where they said they killed all of them? I'll tell you this did they say? did you read another article where they said they killed them all? No, that's you know. They said they contained them, that's. I mean sorry we're saying where they contained all of them, but that being said, that doesn't mean there isn't a couple out there like breeding with, like the populations, whatever. So, yeah, I think life finds a way for real dr mal In one part of me. I'm just so torn between the part of me that says you know what, this is wild and this guy gets to do what he wants with his life, and the other part of me going okay, this guy's going to wreck something that a lot of people have really fought to maintain, like our sheep populations, our sheep herds.

1:32:30 Yeah, it's a big like stuff like um, what, how, like on the high end, what do you think people pay sometimes to go shoot a sheep? we're talking, like you know, native mountain goat, sheeps, uh rams in america. I'm sure on the high end it can get up to like five grand because it's a probably pretty intensive track in some regions. For sure, 60, 60 grand in north america, 150 what people know people will pay crazy money for now.

1:33:11 Now I'll say this you can get into a draw for a lot cheaper. It's very hard to get the tag, but they have things called like governor tags and things to go like hunt these sheep, and if you go into a draw or a lottery you can get in for a lot less. It takes 25 years, right. So like, for four, four hundred bucks a year you can try and try and try or you can drop big money and this and we're not and I'm not talking private ranch, not like, like you know, there's private ranch out there where you go and you know. Or like an africa hunt, where you go and you pay tons of money to shoot these things. I'm talking like a public land hunt for a sheep, big, big money. So like, basically, this dude was messing with like stuff that people so so regard, like taking everything out of it, just the fact that there are people out there who care a lot about that, the the population of sheep in north america.

1:34:07 So he like he's messing with a thing that certain people are very like, very like I didn't know that that's like that's, that's big money is. It are sheep the most expensive thing to hunt in north america uh, I think, yeah, yeah, like if we're taking, just like, if we're taking like I don't even think there's any like exotic animals you kill in north america. They're nearly that expensive. So yeah, I mean just straight up. I know grizzlies are not remotely that expensive in alaska no, not even, not even close. Yeah, so it's like yeah, yeah, big money. The sheep are the top one of the top dollar hunts out there. Wow, and that and some of that's for like uh, like I was saying, public land, not a done deal.

1:34:49 You don't drive out in a truck and get it. You gotta like climb crags and like maybe die falling off of them to go kill it. Like so, people, it's just like he messed with a big old thing and it uh, that's where his downfall ultimately came. Like, honestly, if you want to do this like he should have done it like I don't know, like in mexico. Yeah, like right, like it's not like no one's gonna put that time and effort in mexico for that right, yeah, so like go to other countries that like don't care if you want to, like do a weird science experiment and see if you can. You know, and the fact that he was, it was like I think it was monetarily motivated versus like scientifically motivated for sure and so that's where he went wrong.

1:35:34 It is hard to watch us, like you know, this old man get thrown in jail for quite a long time, but, that being said, just part of what I was explaining was that's why people were pretty pissed you know. So, yeah, I understand that I guess. Mean, here's the thing, man, I don't think people would care if it was a type of cattle, yep. And you know why? It's because it's money. I bet the number one thing that really was pushing on the back of the necks of those Parks and Wildlife officers were the people who were pissed that they might lose money out on people not doing their hunts. And I know that's a cynical thing, but I don't know, it's just hard for me to believe.

1:36:19 I I also just think, like I don't know. I'm kind of of the mindset that, like we're only here once and this is a temporary place and, yes, I do believe biblically, god charged us to be good stewards over it. I don't believe that rules out not using technology to bring back allosaurus's. That can be the most dangerous game for real. And uh, imagine this, imagine this. No, this is dark. Okay, this is entirely a joke. This is entirely a joke. But imagine this we could just bring back neanderthals and just give them spears and clubs and let them just like live on a preserve.

1:36:59 You could pay money. You could pay money to go hunt them with like a bow and arrow that is some. That is some some ethical gray area for sure, because are they human? Not really. That's wild no, I'm just kidding. I think they are still humans, but like it's one of those this is so funny. My mother-in-law is like got like 0.8 percent neanderthal oh yeah, which is more than 99.99 percent of people in the world. Um, but anyways, uh, all that said, I I do think it's a fascinating thing for a lot of the reasons you said. I personally believe one it's not a very harsh punishment Six months and two people were pushing for way harsher when they were prosecuting him For sure.

1:37:49 And this happened in Montana, right, yeah, all right, for sure. And this happened in Montana, right, yeah, all right. Governor tags, which is good for sheep. One sold for 2013,. 480,000. Oh my goodness, another one in 2022 for 360,000. That was in Montana alone. So what I want to bring this to is Holy shit. So what I want to bring this to? Holy shit. So I want to bring this to money and I'll tell you this he messed with big money, yeah, and he got the, he got lucky, and he, so he got in. He got in this world and on the flip side, our conversation earlier, we're we're looking at all this cool advanced weaponry.

1:38:32 If what? He? I'll say this I see where you're going. If he had gone outside of the bounds to create something in the military sphere that was highly valuable, instead of being jailed, he would be on the other end of. He could be. He would be celebrated and making tons of money. If this was, if he had created something that could kill people yeah, really. If he created something that was really good at killing people. He would be living scot-free and rich as heck huge legacy scot-free and rich as heck huge legacy.

1:39:15 And so, either way, he messed with big money and it's just. You know, that's. I think that's an interesting thing that you know. I thought you were gonna say he's lucky he didn't end up on the receiving end of a roadrunner dash m. And well, that's the thing is like the people buying these tags could buy one if they wanted they could buy a roadrunner dash m, claymore and just like have that thing target him Exactly. So he basically he got up into the. He flew too close to the sun, got all the Icarus and if he'd used that innovation to kill people, he'd be better off, which is a little bit of an ethical dilemma, in my opinion. Which is why I see this guy doing this thing and I'm kind of like, yeah, what's the big deal?

1:40:00 I get why it's a big deal and then, also if he. Yeah, I said on the other side of it. There it is. You know, it's all about money I mean here's the truth is that I do really I I highly believe in our lifetime we will see a woolly mammoth born or you know, a woolly mammoth hybrid born from an Asian or African elephant. They're working on cloning them. I mean, they've been working on them for a very long time. A lot of people have given up hope. I personally truly do believe we'll see it happen and I think we'll see of, like, thousands and thousands of other clones based off of genetic material, clones that, like, to most people seem insignificant. But, just like, I think a lot of people don't understand you know how many Native American birds right, I mean like birds that were native to the Americas that were hunted to extinction, right, I don't think a lot of people understand how many of those there there are that are now extinct.

1:40:56 I I do think there is a day in our lifetime, pat, where you and I might be able to get tags to seasonally hunt carrier pigeons again, you know what I mean. I, I can really see that I. I also know like, uh, sheep cloning was a big part of sheep conservation, which is what makes me believe he had the means to access this material, because sheep cloning has been like something that was like always, like that's been essentially the basis for a lot of genetic animal coding cloning.

1:41:41 All that said, I have suspended a lot of the quote-unquote plain God arguments of morality in regards to this stuff. I do think the strongest argument against introducing these animals and species or cloning extinct ones is specifically just disease. I truly do believe that's the strongest moral argument. You know, if you're introducing an animal that was a vector for a highly contagious disease and is now extinct, there's a good chance the disease returns with that animal. I mean, we see it with a bubonic plague, like the bubonic plague that wiped out two thirds of Europe is still around today. We just have an immunity to it and we also have vaccines to it for those who don't have immunities, but it still is carried by squirrels and raccoons and skunks.

1:42:27 There's other diseases that have quote-unquote lapsed historically that I think could make a return if you bring back their carriers, and it wouldn't be that hard for me to imagine. You know you bring back the woolly mammoth, some kind of far flung tundra disease. You know that we don't, we aren't aware about or aren't really fixated on hops into the woolly mammoth crosses, into the Asiatic elephant species, and then now we lose all of our Asian elephant population. Oh yeah, by the way, also the woolly mammoth dies and now, like we've, we've crippled another part of the ecology.

1:43:07 I see that as like the biggest argument against these things, which is why I think having them on a preserve makes a lot of sense. Like I do think if you have three million dollars and we can clone saber-toothed tigers, you should be able to go hunt a saber-toothed tiger and, like, fund the preserve, you know. Like I think that sounds awesome. Like I don't think you should have saber-toothed tigers or dire wolves or cave bears roving wild, because I do see that as being like unforeseen butterfly effect consequences. You know what I heard in my mind while you said that. What? The cables snapping?

1:43:48 From Jurassic. Park From. Jurassic Park. Where's the goat Exactly? That's what I heard. I heard that cable that is ingrained in my memory that scene is my favorite scene in cinema history. Hands down. In the dictionary. You had a sound Next to like lab experiments Gone wrong and, like you know, that's the sound to me of that bro you. You know what? I'll never forget the absolute horrific fixation I felt on the tv when I watched dress apart for the first time, when they put the cow in the raptor pen and like they show nothing other than the like leaves moving and you just hear the cow going and the raptors like oh, yeah, and then the the thing that lowered the cow comes back up and it's just torn to shreds.

1:44:45 There's not even blood on it, yeah, which I was. Like they should have put blood on it, but like no blood or gore at all, and like I was just like. I remember being a child seeing that and being horrified. You know, just being absolutely clear, for like, because I also had like that I think that was like one of my first encounters with dinosaurs. Like was that movie and I was like what is in the grass? You know that did that to a cow. You know what is making those sounds, uh, but yeah, uh I. That movie's so quotable though, too, because like that scene alone, you see the lawyer like run away and he runs to the like you know, the bathrooms and like, uh, sam neill, you know the paleontologist is looking.

1:45:31 He's like where's he going? And Dr Malcolm is just like, when you gotta go, you gotta go. Yeah, like so simple dialogue, quotable lies. I just thought it was so funny. But yeah, bro, that I mean. Come on, pat, imagine we become tens of millionaires off this podcast, I know, and we could drop a whole 10 million dollars on the hunt of a t-rex and you and I live with like knowing we hunted a t-rex or we die because it eats us. Like that's insane that's what I'm, that's what I started. I was talking about this story. I just say I'm torn. I see both sides and I'm like I want to. I want to do all that stuff is there is okay, but quote unquote, like, like.

1:46:14 If they're on a preserve they're locked away. No worry about spilling over into the wild. Yeah, are you still torn? The cables are snapping in my head again. No, you're not. That's what they said about the T-Rex. Okay, a few people get eaten on an island. Whatever, Are you still torn? That's part of the thought. I'd say this that's what you sign up for. If you're saying in a world where it's like 100% it's not getting out, say yeah, let's do it. No, no, no, it's not getting out from like the containment, but it can eat people. No, that's fine. The danger is not a problem. People hunt polar bears and they get eaten every year.

1:46:54 I don't know if it's every year. People get eaten by crocodiles every year hunting crocodiles, oh yeah, yes, and it's not the danger piece for me, it's the part of just going all right. What's the ecological impact? What's going to happen? Yeah, so from a personal standpoint, I say let's freaking do it. From attempting to take a broader view for, like the good of the, the greater good, I'm like we should consider this further. But definitely from just from, just from me, yeah, this guy, one in seven billion people roaming the earth, I say go for it do you remember lost world, the-hmm. And after the raptors attacked them in the tall grass, mm-hmm.

1:47:37 You remember that scene? Like all the mercenaries, all the marble men are walking through the tall grass, mm-hmm. And there's that one Indian guy who's like get down to the tall grass. And then it shows the raptors coming in through the tall grass and just pulling people off from the back and then, as soon as guys recognize what's going on, they start just pouncing, oh yeah, and taking people down. And then finally, after that scene, there's only, like you know, a dozen or so dudes who live through that and the main hunter guy, he's loading up his elephant rifle with uh, and then he's low, he's also loading up his tranq rifle rifle and they're like where are you going?

1:48:19 He's like to collect my fee, to collect my fee, and he's going to hunt the bull wrecks. And I just always remember that being like so burned into my brain of like, wow, what a man, that guy is legit going to go hunt a t-rex with a double barrel elephant gun. He's not successful, yeah that's an audacious goal yeah, I think the bull. I don't think he dies, if I remember correctly, but he doesn't get the bull rex, um. But anyways, all that said, ken, hope you enjoyed the show. We talked about a lot of cool stuff called talked about. We essentially just talked about science fiction becoming real life, like if you're thinking of a title for this, pat, I guess it's just like you know, not so science fiction Exactly, or not so fiction science, I don't know, but it is pretty crazy, like we're in a time where the things we grew up with as kids are not fake and they're real.

1:49:18 Uh, and it just makes me wonder what else is going to happen before you know. Are we going to get teleportation? Are we going to get faster than light travel? Are we going to get laser guns? Are laser guns underneath the second amendment? That is a good question. It's for real. All right, Ken. Well, hey, thanks for joining us, Pat. You got any sign-off for us? Oh, until next time.