The Mick & Pat Show - Run to the Hills

0:00 Welcome to the Mick and Pat show. We're just getting started. This evening we're settling into the world headquarters. When did we start calling it that, I don't know. It just started coming out. I like to call it all sorts of things in my mind the Batcave. This is like the Batcave, but the Mick making pat worldwide headquarters and uh, yeah, we're glad you're with us tonight. I heard something this week that kind of I didn't know about and I was like, oh man, I need to tell the people about this because this is your factoid. It's a little factoid, a little little history lesson, and relates to stuff we talk about all the time.

0:45 But so when you purchase, you know, a silencer, also known more correctly as a suppressor, you got to pay your $200 tax stamp. Do you know when and why that came into effect? Like roughly, when and why that came into effect like roughly? Uh well, I know it came into effect quite a minute ago. It was when 200 bucks was like a big chunk of change for sure, for sure, because it was in the mid-1930s, just post, just post prohibition, 200, $200 for this tax stamp, and the tax stamp was mostly.

1:27 It wasn't even for suppressors then. No, well, it actually there were suppressors were there. There were suppressors then actually. So that's the surprising Suppressors got thrown on there, but what happened was, so far as people can tell, is one. The main things that were on there was machine guns, short-barreled shotguns and rifles and uh and suppressors, but pistols were on there oh really, and they got pulled and I think, after what people think is that, after all the craziness with prohibition, they were like don't do the pistols, like we cannot have this. You know this, this is gonna send the people into too much, you know, and so.

2:09 So they took pistols off and then put suppressors in, and they were rudimentary at the time, super rudimentary at the time, but they did exist. And at the time, how much a machine gun cost in 1930? I swear I saw something in a catalog of like a thompson well 1930, not thompson machine gun, but I swear I saw a catalog image of like 1950s and a thompson machine gun was like 50. Yeah so yeah, like machine guns were 200 bucks about really kind of like but like, but mean, but at the same time too, like you could also. You know, back in the day you could get other guns for 50, 20, like that sort of stuff.

2:50 You could go to home depot and buy yourself a thompson right not really home depot, but like your local hardware store, sure, so this tax stamp was the equivalent of a machine gun, which machine guns have gone off the rails the last few years. But but, uh, modern day equivalent for that tax stamp is four thousand five hundred dollars. So, um, at the time when they instated this, that put a lot of things out of reach for people. But also, um, anyways, I didn't know that was, uh, I didn't know that's. When it came around, I didn't know that it was. I didn't know that machine guns cost 200 and they basically it was just like 100 tax more or less on on your stuff. And so it's held true since then. But people have been trying to get some new laws passed for, uh, basically, hearing protection, things like that that you know, to get the suppressor off of the list, and I think it could happen someday I think it could happen soon.

3:45 I think like we are closer now than we've ever been before, especially with like, the recent destabling of like. Uh, you know, there's that ruling very recently about machine guns not being nfa objects and so, like it's, there's a possibility in the machine guns come back on the menu. That's true for sure. And I think that the fact for the suppressor piece, the fact that, like in Europe, they're easy to get, they're so easy. They're so easy to get. Guns are really really really, really, really hard to get. Suppressors are easy to get, and so we'll see. We'll see if you get to save your 200 bucks someday on your cans, but anyways, I learned that this week, so hey, and I'm really glad they didn't do that with pistols.

4:33 Yeah, can you imagine how different our world would be if we didn't have a gun constantly pointed at our wieners? My life would be different constantly pointed at our wieners, my life would be different. I'm like grandpa couldn't have afforded that, like that cool 38 special that he got for 50 bucks speaking of which, you know, I just kind of purchased, inherited some very nice firearms and I, I think I sent you the image or the video. I sent you a link to one of them that went on for auction. Oh yeah. Yep, it's a Steyr Manlicker Manlicker but it was originally made by the Steyr company, which the Steyr company made, like you know, die cast aluminum toys.

5:26 They made you know all these kind of different household appliances and stuff. They really prided themselves on the rifles. They made A lot of their rifles. You know, their Steyr rifles were like what a lot of people you know were outfitted with going to war and then they got into like more of the boutique hunting post world war ii. And so this is a steyr man liquor with its og lupold scope. Oh wow, and it's that like simple 1950s, just skinny crosshair scope, no mills or anything on it. Um, it's in 30 out six, which is also super rare because most of them were made in like really obscure calibers not obscure obscure now, but at the time weren't obscure.

6:15 You know they're common european calibers and it's got, uh, a flush wood stock up to the front sight and it's it's like one of those hunting rifles that has a front sight you know like built into it and like iron sights and the scope can like quick detach off of it. You know the scope's not like a screw down mounted super hardware thing. It's designed to be like taken off quickly to use the iron sights. So I was I'm really stoked about it. I got a really great deal on it, especially when I'm seeing them in the condition it's in with the original scope. I'm seeing them go for like three grand and so I'm like, damn bro, I got, I got a steal on this and it's kind of like you know a family friend who's passing it down to us.

7:01 Uh, because you know they don't have anyone in their family who would really use it or appreciate it. So I'm pretty stoked about that yeah, this thing, this thing's slick looking. Yeah, isn't it slick doesn't it look like I'm about to like get in a bell tower and start just like taking out an army? and also what I like about this long, how the stock comes all the way up to the front, is the uh, you remember last the mohicans, you know the weapon that that dad had that long. Yeah, he had this long club with the knife point on the end of it. Yeah, something about this looks like that's just cuddly.

7:41 Yeah, just looks, looks cool. Yeah, I like it. Well. The that's supposed to also make the barrel much more stable. You know, like most hunting rifles, their barrel uh is set into the stock, right, but the stock doesn't go all the way down, right. So you, so there's, like I did, this concept of like a barrel set all the way to the tip and wood is supposed to keep it from having more drift If you're firing. You know followup shots, which you know. I think it can definitely be used as a hunting rifle, but it seems to me like it's also like more of like a Mark spin ship rifle as well. But how heavy is it Um? I think somewhere I read it's like six or seven maybe yeah it I think somewhere I read it's like six or seven maybe.

8:26 Yeah, it's pretty lightweight, that's pretty light then no, it's pretty lightweight and I think it's coming with the original strap and I bought that one and they're just like, yeah, he has this really nice vintage hunting knife that's well cared for and we're going to throw in his Ruger 270 with it and it's also got a scope. I'm like, yeah, throw it all in, baby. They're like they were calling me. They're like we don't want to send you junk though, like we have a bunch of 20 gauge, 12 gauge and 16 gauge shotgun like you have any use for that. I was like I will find a way to make use of that you know, if I have to, I'm sure I can really lighten up a buddy's day by giving them the coveted 16 gauge rounds. You know what I mean?

9:06 Oh yeah. So but anyways, that's kind of my gun news. We went shooting and I did use the flux for a ton of drills and I had really good bag time and accuracy running it. Running it, I like did the hit factor scoring for how we were like scoring like our shot placements and like time, and I had like a with the flux. My first run was like a 1.9 hit factor, which isn't great. That's kind of it, kind of like you take your points and how many are in the A zone, in the C zone or D zone, or how many are misses, and then you add those up and then divide it by your time, right, that's how you get hit factor.

9:56 So like a 1 hit factor means like you got 40 points in 40 seconds. Right, that would be a 1. That's not good, that's pretty poor. It's good for some people, I guess, right, but for like people like you and I who should be much more experienced and practiced, right, um, so the first one, I got like a one nine. Then I got it up to like a two, dot two, and I think I finished the day with my best score being like a 2.3, which was pretty good, I was pretty proud of. It was, like you know, 40 points and under 16 seconds. So it was pretty great, but our homie out there, you know old man john wick.

10:38 He just, he's so fast, dude. Yeah, he's so fast he also. I mean, he shoots every weekend at usp, us pca yeah, he's been working a lot so, um, but he, uh dude, it's honestly crazy. I was like got ahead of him and I was like teasing him and kind of giving him a hard time and ribbing him and I was like come on, old man, let's see what you got. And then, bro, he pulled out his uh, his actual competition pistol like that he's actually running that event carry yeah, it's like a, it's like a full framed weighted like, uh, speed canik, yeah, and like the trigger roll on. It is like it's like a very short, maybe maybe two millimeter trigger break, you know, and it's it's like maybe two pounds, three pounds, and uh, bro, he just like I think he got 40 points in 13 seconds, which even.

11:36 And he was like, yeah, that's not great. I'm like, okay, skunked me, bro, uh, but anyways. So, um, yeah, good shoot, good shoot weekend. Good shoot stuff. You'll be shooting this weekend. It's been a good week for guns oh yeah, um, but it's been not a great week for some people we got some news here yeah, um, and you know, I guess I was pretty actually aligned. I guess let's talk about the hurricane first, because I was in virginia last week for I got to go to a service, a memorial service at arlington, which was awesome. If you ever get the chance and you're invited to go with a family for that, that is one of the coolest things seeing them do the full service and you get.

12:20 I got to be part of, like I got to drive a car in the actual, you know uh, caravan through the, through arlington, which is very, you know, you can't just drive into arlington, no, and so that was pretty sick. I got to be a part of that caravan and drive to the burial site and see where they were gonna, uh, you know where. The plot was already dug in his headstone, and then it was my wife's grandfather Well, her step grandfather, I guess, but, and then it was, he was a Marine too, so they had the Marines carry him in as pallbearers for, like, the ceremony in the church and then carried him back out to the hearse, and then we did the caravan and then carried him out of there to the tent where they did the flag fold and handed it to his wife.

13:08 And those Marines are probably just losing the slickness. Oh yeah, they're squared away. I heard a lot of those guys are combat vets because they're hurt so they can't, or, like you know, they're medically not allowed to go back to combat. They're like they're, they're hurt so they can't, or, like you know, they're medically not allowed to go back to combat. But they're squared away so much that they like get you know the station of you know being pallbearers and stuff for, like arlington services like this. I mean all of them looked like strong marines, you know. I mean they're all pretty squared away. Um, but the 21 gun salute was pretty sick and it was raining. I felt like I was in a movie dude. Yeah, it was just like the perfect, like super low hanging cloud, overcast rain, and it was just a beautiful service.

13:53 Um, but all that said, a lot of people were flipping about this hurricane coming up into florida and people were just like talking left and right and they're like they say it's unsurvivable, unsurvivable conditions. I was like I don't know man, I know quite a few homies down in florida who are not concerned one bit. Yeah, and it seems like though it kind of blew over and then up into other southern states that are not as equipped for hurricanes right, yeah, for sure, because there I mean, as far as I was seeing videos come out of, like, I mean there was, like you know, like florida man was just out in the streets like having fun running around like just being people just being being florida man out there, um, but yeah, the uh, um it came up an inland and the storm itself just ended up in the Appalachian Mountains and the place that's taken the brunt of it is North Carolina, because basically, when you have a ton of rainfall in Florida, it's so flat there have a ton of rainfall in florida, the you know it's so flat there.

15:13 Um, the water level, um, I'd say this, when it rains a lot, the, you don't really notice the water level changing. Um, as much as now, when they get affected by hurricane, it's from the high winds and the storm itself. But what appears to have happened in north carolina is that the um, uh, basically, because of where the storm hit those mountains, it just it's the flooding from it that just washed out these cities, uh, highways and people kind of back in those mountain areas where there's kind of only one way in, one way out type stuff and those, and so they're dealing with a lot of stranded people, landslides, and I think it's 190 people have been confirmed to have passed away, most people outside of Katrina in the past 55 years on that one.

16:01 So we'll see as things come out around their recovery there. But lots of the pictures coming out yeah, there are lots of infrastructure just completely destroyed not just damaged, but just gone for those roads and stuff. So lots of support has been coming in there from I know you know there's, you know, government agencies, national Guard people getting involved but then also like just tons of volunteers who have been kind of flocking to here to get. The biggest thing right now is the people are stranded, needing water and food and getting their power back up and things like that, because the power outages are affecting, it says, millions of people with uh needing to get those back up.

16:44 And so the one of my guys who works for me he's, he just flew out there and he's going to uh volunteer for the next week and kind of see what's going on. So I think when he comes back going to ask him about you know what it was like there Cause, yeah, the, you know the, the hurricane itself, as far as making landfall, really didn't do much damage and people did pass away in Florida as well, but the brunt of it definitely was up in North Carolina and South Carolina, and these cities are like 500 miles inland, which that's what's crazy too is to be like 500 miles inland and getting whacked by a storm like that.

17:26 So we'll see. Well, I'm going to have him report back and see. You know what it was like there, what it's, you know what was the conditions, what did he see? And you know there's been a lot of people talking about government aid not coming in, these sorts of things and lots of that's. I think just some kind of politicizing, saber-rattling stuff. But we'll have some boots on the ground and see what he has to say about it, because it would be interesting to know firsthand what people are seeing out there. And is he like he's out in North Carolina or something? Yep, yep, because he went to school out there and so he's got friends and connections out there and so he flew out there to go volunteer and help where he can. So we'll see if he gets into some of these sites, because the airport in Asheville was closed for a while but now it is open to backup, so I think he was able to get in there.

18:16 Gotcha. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean, yeah, I kind of thought people were blown out of proportion from what I heard, Like the news was blown out of proportion from what I heard from people down in Florida and then now what you were just talking about and reading off from how brutal the flooding is and looking at some of these images it's pretty intense. I don't feel like a lot of these communities are used to that kind of torrential weather just because of how far inland it is. I remember I've been to the Smokies man and I don't imagine most of those communities get that kind of rain. Well, they get it over the course of a year, not all at once.

19:00 You know what I mean. Right, right for sure. For sure. So, yeah, we'll see what, uh, we'll see what uh he says and yeah, it looks like there's a lot of mud to be moved. It is uh, I feel like we're used to seeing that kind of stuff more on the west coast. You know, california slide, mudslide type stuff yeah, yeah, I think part of it was these people inland just got caught. You know they're not in an evacuation zone, not having to worry about this thing, and then you know, so they, they got caught, um not ready for this sort of thing, their infrastructure is not suited to handle these sorts of things, but, man, it's sad, it's obviously said, the loss of life and you know, and there's still lots of people missing, um, as far as recovery goes for this, the um, or you know, or rebuilding man, these rivers and highways are just blown out and the, the rivers and stuff that are so pretty and even like the big, the big Thompson here that flooded a few years back, like it just looks horrible.

19:57 You still think it looks bad. I think it still looks bad when you drive up there. I think they've done a ton to repair the sediment they have, but it's just not what it was. I don't remember what it was beforehand. So these beautiful little rivers and the Smokies are going to be interesting to see what they look like in a few years as well. Yeah, that flooding does do some crazy stuff. I remember seeing the photos come out after the water kind of got controlled and just the sediment being up to the top of people's roofs Like whole houses buried. That was unreal to me here, yeah, in a relatively small flood. Yeah, I mean it was a in comparison to like a hurricane raining on you.

20:39 For sure, yeah, it's. It's crazy how much you know stuff starts getting moved around when that happens I'll tell you what else. Uh, who's not having a great day? Diddy. No kidding. I sent you this video but it was Asmongold. For those who don't know who Asmongold is, it's spelled A-S-M-O-N-G-O-L-D. He's just a streamer, you know, take it or leave it, whatever, but he's just honestly always streaming and all he does on his streams is react to videos. I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but I really do appreciate that he has pretty much non-political or agenda takes.

21:30 He's just usually watching stuff that people in his chat tell him to watch and he's like oh, wow, you know he's kind of reacting to it with his chat, but he's never like making a, you know. I mean, he does, I guess, make some longer form videos, but most of the time he's just like commenting briefly, pausing the video and then resuming it. Right and so, um, but he's so fast, he's faster than the news. He's who I heard, uh, that Trump was getting shot at, like. He was the first person I saw actually reacting to it and had a video on YouTube before any news media did, and that was live. You know what I mean? Um, and so, anyways, I saw today he was the first person I saw to react or upload, uh this Texas attorney's um address of the case, uh, against Diddy, or cases, um, this attorney is based out of Texas, uh, in his law firm I guess he can practice.

22:27 Uh, he's an attorney known uh by the name of I just have his last name here something Busby, you see it anywhere? Tony Busby. Tony Busby. But yeah, so he held his press conference and he started like pretty much just going into all the details, uh, that he could disclose essentially about the cases that he is, his office is taking up, um, and he is. Apparently they received 3 000 reports of people stating that they were victims of Sean Combs, sean Diddy Combs, but that they only took 120 of them.

23:18 Because a little background, if people don't know he was old P Diddy was arrested on September 16th. For what they it was a federal law enforcement wrapped him up and it was. They were charging him with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking and basically prostitution transportation to engage in prostitution. It had been a month-long investigation into him, and so that was kind of what first broke and he got arrested a semi unsurprising thing to like have a celebrity or somebody.

24:00 I wasn't. I wasn't shocked that he got hit with sex trafficking you know so many of these celebrities do pimp someone out right, right, yeah, yeah, or even yeah, like racketeering, sexual, it seems like it comes with the like. You know you want to. You know you want to be a. You know big shot, big shot, you want to be a gangster. This is the. You know al capone, racketeering. You know what I mean. Yeah, gangster, right, you want to be gangster. You know you got girls, you got crimes. So that's kind of the unsurprising piece of this when he was arrested. But now, since he was arrested, this is you know, all these things starting to not just kind of spill out. They're like like land sliding in and it's like you were saying, uh, three thousand, over three thousand people, yeah, and then how many have?

24:47 Uh, how many people are this is this law firm taking on? Yeah, so they said that they're representing 120 cases so far They've taken them on and they will be individual cases because of the different locations and suspects that have been claimed to be taking part in what was going on. So essentially, apparently what really seemed to be happening is that Diddy was doing the Epstein thing. Diddy was sexually trafficking not just minors, but you know like not just normal people, but sexually trafficking not just minors, but you know like not just normal people, but also a lot of minors.

25:35 Um, and there was, uh, repeated incidences of people who came forward willing to testify and wanting to be represented by busby's law firm, um, saying that, like diddy would promise them a record contract or record deal and promise it to their parents. And so then these kids went with Diddy. Diddy would give them what is known as a horse tranquilizer, which almost all of these people tested positive for in their police reports. Yeah, and all these separate stories. They all had the same fucking tranquilizer. Yeah, these same drugs in there. They all had the same fucking tranquilizer, these same drugs in there, and the story always went that they were offered a drink and or really forced or, like you know, really pressured to have the drink and then tested positive for these drugs.

26:21 And then they all, and the reason they would get tested is because they wouldn't remember anything. And they go to the police the next day and the police would do a full biopsy and the doctors would do a biopsy on them and they would have like serious pain and from, you know pardon our french here but rectal and vaginal like penetration, and essentially some of them were conscious enough, and just like drugged enough, that they reported, you know lucidly, being conscious while they were just being passed around from person to person to have sex with, um again like, and they were in a state of mind where, like, they were aware of what was happening but they couldn't consent in any way, shape or form right, right, and it's, uh, none of these 120.

27:06 It's 60 males, 60 females yep, and I think they said at least 30 of them are still currently minors yeah, or because at the time of the was it at the time? yeah, okay, um, and so, like all that said, like it is honestly egregious what is going on here. Like you know this, I totally just blew it off originally when I heard the charges of like dude they got caught buying a prostitute and dodging taxes like so many other people do, or he was actually pimping people out and they caught him pimping them out and being a part of that organization and I guess I just didn't think it was going to be Epstein level stuff, but the law firm.

27:51 The reason again I want to emphasize is the reason they're doing these cases separately, because usually what you would see is like something along the lines of like Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby had 40 people overall come forward with credible testimony that he sexually assaulted them, drugged them with a drink and raped them, or sexually assaulted them through pressure and stuff for the industry. Those were all bundled into one case and he got a charge and sentencing based off of all those different incidents and cases and testimony. And they're not doing that with Diddy, because how many other people were here? And the quote is that Sean Diddy Combs is just one of the many powerful people that Busby will be pressing charges and revealing.

28:41 And apparently they have the list and the reason they're not disclosing it right now is because, of course, never tell your enemy what you're doing or what you plan to do. But he says we will expose the enablers who enabled this conduct behind closed doors. We will pursue this matter, no matter who the evidence implicates. And apparently the list is already insane and they don't. They're very careful because these people are not just celebrities. A lot of them are like massive commercial real estate owners who would essentially commercial real estate owners, who would, essentially they didn't take part in actually the sex act, but they were paid off and fully aware of what Diddy was selling in these places and the parties he was holding.

29:23 He would call them quote unquote puppy parties. Uh, it was an opportunity to pass a minor around, um, and so it's absolute. I mean, it's unreal to me but, like you know, the, the, the law firm is going for those people too. Right, the law firm's like dude, you're not off the list here, and because of that, and how diverse each instance might be from one to the other and they can't all be grouped under one, because of how many people could be indicted and charged, they're doing them one at a time. And, um, I mean it's a big ass law firm though, like I looked up, uh, where you know his law firm busby law firm is the name of the law firm right, it's not small.

30:04 So, like they certainly have the resources to do this right and take this case load on. Um, he said the day will come when we will name names other than sean combs and there's a lot of names. The alleged youngest victim was nine years old. Um, he, as mr combs legal team has emphasized, he cannot address every meritless allegation. And, uh, what has become a reckless media circus? Erica Wolf, the attorney representing Combs, said that said, mr Combs emphatically and categorically denies all as false and defamatory any claim that he sexually abused anyone, including minors.

30:45 I mean, you could go for it, man, but like these, when you have 3,000 people claiming it and you know that trickle effect of like, all right, someone came forward finally, all right, I'll do it too, because if 5% are true. Yeah, like, let's say like, just like, if you're just doing the thing, we're saying, like let's say only 5% of these people coming forward are truthful about it. That's 150 people. Oh yeah. That's a, that's a ton of people. You know what I mean. So it's like it's a yeah and and the like, the stats on these folks, the fact that lots of people are you're, you know.

31:26 Here's the deal from for me myself, for old Pat, you know how many speeding tickets I get? A year Zero, maybe between one and three A year, yeah depending on those like Holy smokes brother Depending on those like. I've gotten two. Well, here's the deal. There's a Jeep that parks out here with a freaking radar right off part of my shop and they dink us all the time, but also like straight pulled over by a cop, maybe once a year. Pulled by a cop for a ticket. You know how often I speed, every damn day, every damn day, I'm speeding, and so if you, you know, if you just want to lay that over, some of these, uh, some of these crimes that this other fellow's committing, uh, uh, some of these crimes that this other fellow's committing, uh, it would logic, would say he's been doing this a lot for a long time, and it dates back all the way.

32:21 What was it to? 1991? yeah, some of the earliest ones. So there's uh and a lot of these like charges are sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery, obstruction of justice. I think the crazy thing too that everyone's making originally memes about. But like I think is really damning when you think about like the type of parties he's throwing and stuff he throws, like what is known as these freak offs uh, which are like quote-unquote, like drug like drug fueled sex gatherings. Um, he was arrested with over 1 000 bottles of lube in like a room that had his like his firearms were locked up in right and it's just kind of like this weird sex dungeon s place.

33:06 It was like. It was like really strange and so, like I know, a lot of people are joking about the lube, but I'm like, bro, you know why you need a thousand bottles of lube is because you have an insane shitload of clientele who are looking to have a long night of sex and or less consenting or yeah, you know what I mean. Like yeah there's like hey, sometimes you need this stuff sometimes you do if you're in the shower, but I'll tell you when you for sure need it when someone's not consenting. Yeah, you know Exactly. It's like, yeah, that's gross, and the fact that you know when was that that that happened. That was when they arrested him in September. That was when they arrested him. Okay, but yeah, because there's been difference between, like, a bunch of consenting adults deciding to get freaky and then like the straight up solicitation of hey come and pay the fee to get in this backroom party and you can.

34:11 Well, we can let you have sex with whoever you want Right, and the fact that at these parties and people have been talking about these parties even before saying, basically, you, you had to drink whatever they were giving you. Yeah, it was like that wasn't something they stated, like it was like a, a mandated, like, hey you, you want to hang out with us, you have to drink this drink the party or leave or drink, drink the drink, the drink or leave, and so, yeah, and you know, they have all these different drugs in there. That was uh, um, all sorts of all sorts of stuff in there, especially, uh, it just bad, bad, bad, bad stuff. And I think that, uh, what's crazy about this one is how the that lawyer was saying that he, he came out and said he said we have this list of names and we are going to we're going to say the names.

34:59 Oh yeah. And then he also said and you will be, like he either said shocked or surprised, or something like that you will be stunned or something like that, like the names that are coming out on this thing. Yeah, bro, I'm sure we will be man, I'm kind of like at like the names that are coming out on this thing. Yeah, bro, I'm sure we will be man, I'm sure it's bro. Like I wouldn't be shocked if there's like some names that are straight out of left field, like you know, ellen DeGeneres. You know what I mean. Like just like something weird, like that Right, where people are like Like I wouldn't have expected that person to be at the Diddy Freak Night, freak Off, sex Dungeon Night. You know what I mean, right? But yeah, I mean it's kind of crazy because you do hear about all these like people who come out talking about like, especially like the Nickelodeon and Disney Channel stars.

35:44 They talk about how awful the industry is and like what they had to do to like get in and get started and how they hate being famous. Now, when a lot of them go off this you know deep end, of course, yeah, right after is they, like you know, they are out of uh custody of their parents or agents, and so, um, one thing, though I do want to like nip in the bud is like there's this ai track song going around. Apparently I was looking into it because even even billy jean had heard about it. Uh, there's this ai track going around, a claim, and it's someone who says it's a song by bieber. Bieber did not make the song. It was generated by ai. It's talking about how, you know, he lost himself at a diddy party and all he wanted was a new ferrari, but it cost him more than it cost him his soul, and the fame and the glory wasn't worth it.

36:34 It's totally AI-generated guys. It's not a song where Bieber's doing a tell-all coming out about it. Now we're going to call this one potential historical fiction. Yeah, no, kidding. The thing that is crazy, though, is that there is a video that Justin Bieber has on his YouTube page from years ago, where he was talking about how Diddy was helping him essentially get like. Diddy was like a mentor, helping him produce a track right and like I wouldn't be shocked if something came out like massive. You know not saying that. Bieber strikes me as a kid who was groomed, but I wouldn't be shocked if something came out like massive. You know not saying that Bieber strikes me as a kid who was groomed, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was like yeah, you know what?

37:15 It didn't happen to me, but it happened to someone else. I know, and like I'm not going to be quiet about it, you know, or if maybe it did happen to you know that would be awful. But, um, I just wouldn't be surprised Cause there's now like it. I just wouldn't be surprised because there's now, like it's kind of one of those things where, like you know, people ask like how did we not see the signs? And then you like start looking at all these interviews Diddy did and like the reason I said Ellen was like there's some really sinister, weird energy between him and Ellen that felt like when you watch it hindsight now, it feels like Ellen's almost like blackmailing him. He like it looks so uncomfortable and I was just going through all these Justin Bieber diddy. Okay yeah, and it just looks like um, you know what I mean.

37:58 It just looks like all these interviews he does and things he talks about and people talking about the diddy parties. It just seems like, wow, dude, how many of these people talking about this were in on it. You know what I mean. How many of these people talking about this were in on it. You know what I mean? How many of these people were just getting away with this, thinking they'd never get caught. So I don't know, if you've got time, start coming up with your conspiracy theories of who the names are going to be. I mean, I'm looking forward to finding out, because it's guaranteed that there's going to be a Venn diagram of people at the Diddy parties and people at the Epstein Island, you know. Yeah, yeah, and uh, and they have. Uh, you know, and people have been like to have an unconfirmed list from Epstein stuff.

38:41 Yeah, Um, you know, and this is like. It's like people aren't, uh, people aren't going to, maybe for not getting the list this time, and to the point in Aspen Gold's video was he was saying like these guys aren't powerful in comparison to Epstein people. Yeah Right, epstein, people are rulers of nations, right. Right, so these people are. These people are like our uh fool in the courtroom in comparison. You know they're entertainers oh yeah, the uh, this uh.

39:21 The video of diddy with jess and bieber's gotten like millions of views yeah, isn't it crazy in the last few days? yeah, yeah because it's uh do you pull it up and see it? Doesn't that like make you sick to your stomach? Though now, like you see how excited bieber is and diddy just looks cold to me, bro yeah like he looks like unemotional the whole time. Yeah, and I'm like geez, holy fucking shit, like Like what happened? You know what I mean? It's a, it's awful. Yeah, yeah, it is, it makes you think like there's no way that young kid in that video has any idea who he's sitting next to.

40:02 Even again, like you know, god forbid anything happened. Right, like it's awful that anything happened to one person, let alone thousands. But it is that feeling, you see, when you see like those pictures of serial killers, right like, and they're just doing something normal in public with people who have no idea, you're just like, holy shit, like this is awful. Now it's a whole different light. Yeah, and it's uh. I was. I was talking uh yesterday with a guy about this, actually on as a uh, on a golf course with a guy that I didn't know I was playing with, just met him and we were talking about he just kind of brought it up like an older gentleman, uh, you know, like how do you say it? He's like do you say you?

40:44 see that shit about sean combs or he's like man. You see that shit about diddy. Yeah, I guess I should say when I say gentleman, he wasn't rickety yet. You know he was you know he was gray but he could still swing the club, you know. But anyways. But yeah, he was a. You know he had some colorful language about the whole thing and thinking about it just like you know, and just like you know, all this stuff's gone on for all of history abuse of others, yeah, but in recent years, is it just because of the way that information goes around everybody has a cell phone and a camera and evidence and things now that things kind of you know, it's a more even playing field for folks to kind of be able to prove, protect themselves or like also, is there other things, is there greater evil going on?

41:40 That's like that. These things are seeming to become more and more like prevalent and and coming out right. Yeah, and, and I don't think any time and there has been a time in human history when, like this amount of like sexual exploitation of people and like minors has been like just like so coming out either. I don't, yeah, I mean I can't say that I would. I would assume it's always been happening, but the media and the technology of media makes it definitely appear like it's been far more prolific in the last I don't know 30 years than it was probably before.

42:20 And I think I mean again though you know that's so hard to say Like I mean, you watch True Detective season one man, they get it on like vintage videotape in the 80s, so it's like I'm sure they were doing it before. They had videotapes for it, right, you know I? mean like it's been going on since, you know, uh, the canaanites right salem and gomorrah, and so it is one of those things though that, like as a believer, I do find myself, you know, I do find myself pulling on my chin hairs and reading more and more about, you know, the prophecies of Isaiah and the book of Daniel, and you know kind of end time stuff about how the cult of personality and people worshiping themselves and children be sacrificed on the altar.

43:11 Like I don't think that means just I don't think that means like a physical altar is going to be set up in front of us and we're going to see children sacrificed on it you know, all the time. I think that could be. I think that very well could be abortion. I think that very well could be like the sacrifice of unborn children for the sake of the self, the ideology of the self. You know the ego, the self, as well as you know the sacrifice of, you know, child innocence for sexual pleasure. Yeah, so it's one of those things that I'm like and here's the thing too, bro, you got to know like how many kids are just dead because they were too much of a pain in the ass or too much of a hassle, and like I guarantee you we'll find out.

43:55 Like there's murder charges laced in this, you know what I mean. Like there's no way they talked about it when, like, people were interviewed for the Epstein case about girls going missing. You know what I mean. Right, just being done away with and still have no one has ever heard from again just being done away with and still have no one has ever heard from again. I guarantee you we're going to find out. The same thing with this Diddy case is, you know there were people done with so that way they wouldn't be a problem down the road. Um, but all that said, um, yeah, it's, it's pretty crazy, it's pretty dark. Um, I guess I also just try to let it be. You know, I just try to be like a duck and try to accept like it's part of living in a fallen world and not to let it kind of get to me too much.

44:39 But I'll be interested to see, kind of, how it plays out from here. I'm sure it's going to be decades. You know what I mean. I'm sure we'll be hearing about this for the next 10 years as like it all plays out. But, um, bro, you know who's also not doing great this this week? Well, I mean hezbollah. But also, but also I say this, you know, as iran has just returned to fire, uh, rockets on israel, which I saw a lot of people like trying to roast quote-unquote roast Israel. Right, they're like, yeah, the Iron Dome is not working so well. Now I'm like that's kind of odd, that like you're celebrating like bombs falling on cities.

45:23 It feels really weird. Civilian targets, not military action. Like I can't ever think of a time where I was really excited about bombs landing in the Middle East. I know a lot of people think it's a two-sided coin, like people rejoice when bombs fall on Palestine I've never been happy about bombs on Palestine, right, you know I mean. But also like, so I see people legit celebrating, you know who aren't radical Muslims celebrating, you know, missile strikes from Iran on Israel. But I thought I did see the dome working great, because most of the ones that most of the missiles I saw make contact to the ground seemed like they were in the open areas outside of the city.

46:03 And I know the dome doesn't shoot. If it can, if they can account for the trajectory, not going towards a high densitydensity area, right? So I don't know. I mean, have you heard any numbers coming out of like the you know attacks and like, were they successful? You know I mean from? the—and so, because you know so, since last October 7th. So by the time you're hearing this, it's been one year since the. Hamas attack into Israel and so, yeah, coming up on a year of that year of warfare, and since those things have been escalating and escalating and bringing in other countries Lebanonon, hezbollah, and then also iran involvement and since that time thousands of rockets have been shot over to israel and thousands have been shot down.

47:01 So, like it's, it's doing its job pretty dang good, considering like what there would be, like the the map, if you look at it, pull up a map of um. I'll grab it on my phone real quick to show you. I've seen it. I've seen it. You got to keep in mind I work in intel oh, yeah, for sure, but the uh, here was one, but the uh, I think this was one day. This was one day, it was yesterday, yeah it was like how many rockets got fired into israel in just one day and was all, like you know, a key marked on the map yep, yeah. So I mean yeah, I mean it's just, and what's it's just? Yeah, it's insane. And that's from below. This is unpopulated above, it is all the you know. So I mean it's if all those rockets hit you have scorched earth, you know there'd be craters everywhere yeah, I mean it'd be insane.

47:46 And so with all those um, it's been one reported person to, and I should say with uh um the latest attack um of uh 200 missiles uh shot in from iran or by iran, is uh only one reported um death and that was a palestinian in the west bank wow um, and so you know, in April it had done a 300-missile attack, including missiles and drones. But those were from Lebanon, right, those weren't from Iran back in. April Correct. And I don't know, because this is a pretty radical step for Iran to openly fire into Israel.

48:28 The last time that happened, I can't remember, I've got to look it, but I remember I was reading. Like the last time that happened I can't remember, I got to look at it, but I remember I was reading, like last time it happened was a while back, yeah, and so the yeah, it's a, I mean it's a pretty big act of war in a lot of way, you know, by any interpretation, and so, yeah, it's a surprising amount of lives not lost. From the amount of weapons that are flying back and forth there, what I will say is, israel is also sending, you know, attacks over into hezbollah, into lebanon. I don't think they have launched, you know, large attack on yeah, they haven't launched large attack on iran, but they've been talking about, you know, know that Iran will pay for this, these sorts of things.

49:15 And so, um, in the Golan Heights area, the Northern border of Israel, there has been actual, uh, you know, soldiers on the ground fighting back and forth too. So that's also that's, that's a pretty big escalation to have, you know, people, uh boots, on the ground back and forth. Um, I believe 11 Israeli soldiers were killed, um, uh, yesterday in, uh in in fighting there. And so you know, they've got've got uh, people engaging in combat did you see that the reason I said hezbollah earlier was because I saw that video breaking down the tunnels that hezbollah was building to do another october 7th attack oh, from the north or yeah, which was part of like, the whole reason, um, you know, a huge part of like why hezbollah got targeted so hard and so brutally by Israel was because they had this, you know, intel, this OSINT, that Hezbollah was planning this attack, this massive offensive again to sneak in through these tunnels and try to do a whole nother assault on, uh, israel on October 7th again.

50:34 So they, they, they started, you know they and they knew this has been being planned months ago, right, and so they used, uh, you know, subterfuge and stuff like to do the pager attacks. And uh dude, I've I'm sure you know this just because of how well read in you are with Israel. So please, you know, um definitely correct me where I may be wrong on some of this stuff, but like it started with the um attack of uh the paid, not the attack, right, but like the pager bombs went off Right, and the pagers were being used a lot by Hezbollah because they can't be tracked For a lot of people that I don't know.

51:14 Like pagers are not something like you know cell phones and like that. It's very hard to triangulate where a pager is on one individual, especially if you have a bunch of people wearing them. It's like you're just tracking radio signals at that point. And very cheap, easy to get out to a lot of people. They are cheap, but Israel and whoever they were working with they were able to get. It was something crazy, like five grams of explosive into each of these pagers and it was just hand-waved by Hezbollah when they were buying these pagers. It was just like oh yeah, it's just like soldering. They detonated them simultaneously and it was reported a thousand pagers blew up and it's not, and now I don't know how many.

52:01 I don't think it killed a thousand people, but it definitely injured a substantial amount of hezbollah agents. And then, in an absolute genius move, Hezbollah falls back to these radios I can't remember what bandwidth the radios were using, like, what network it was on, but they fall back to their radios and those two had explosives in them, bought by a totally like different you know supplier. That was you know, uh, infiltrated by Israeli intelligence. And so those radios blow up dealing another blow. Um, and my buddy dude. He just sent me this hilarious message.

52:43 He texts me. He's like yo, what are your thoughts on the explosive pagers? This is my buddy, um, uh and uh. I guess I don't want to give his name away, but I'm like I was like dude, it's absolutely sick. That is like one of the most insane like successful operations I've ever heard of. Like this is on the level of like how we put explosives in cigars to try to get Fidel Castro. We put explosives and cigars to try to get Fidel Castro. Yeah, but this actually worked. And, um, you know, I was like we should do this with pedophiles, like pedophiles use pagers a lot still, and because of how hard it is to triangulate and like no-transcript 20,000 pages just blew up today and the nuts of 20,000 pedophiles just got blown off.

53:31 Like that'd be amazing, bro, and he just like was sending me memes and he's like the SpongeBob meme. Did you watch SpongeBob? Yeah, yeah. There's the meme of like the bag of Krabby Patty, oh no, the bag of like pies. Because like, oh, these aren't pies, these are bombs, these were made in a bomb factory, not a pie factory. And uh, it's just like dubbed over with, like you know, oh, these aren't pagers, these are bombs, they were made in a bomb factory. And uh, I asked him. I was like have you encountered anyone in your day-to-day life who's upset that terrorists had their nuts blown off by pagers? And he was like no, but I'm assuming the guys that were wearing them are pretty upset, for sure he's like.

54:16 I like to imagine that there's a few hezbollah guys left that are just staring at their coffee machine every morning wondering if they're safe to drink it or not, and that's a great point like the paranoia, and that's a great point, because the um, and yeah, it was a, it was a couple thousand, it was like four thousand between radios, individuals or devices, devices for thousands of devices in total and including some. even some laptops and cell phones were reported and sold some solar um power cells. So um and it, it killed 20 people, then 450 were injured yeah, no kidding. And then after the secondary attack um, leaving nearly 3000 injured and some civilians and some children did die from that as well.

55:02 But oh really, it actually killed some kids, killed some kids killed some civilians, um, and that's a pretty large scale attack to you know, 4,000 explosions, right, large-scale attack to you know, yeah, 4,000 explosions, right. And so I mean you know, uh, but I mean it really did, um, uh, the like to your point of looking at the coffee maker, um, tons of people went outside and broke their phones. Yeah, like smash, smash, their phones smash and stuff, not knowing what's gonna happen. I mean, the, the physical attack was one thing, but the psyop attack of this for israel to say here's what we can do to you when we want you know and and delete, and then also for it to be all commas devices where your commas down all across, you don't know, you can't trust anything to communicate, you know.

55:47 And so it's uh, um, definitely playing into the psyche there on how do we talk, how do we operate, what are we going to do, you know? And so pretty incredible attack. And from a strategic standpoint it's like I was. I guess I wasn't too surprised at the fact it could be done, I just was surprised at the fact that it happened. Yeah, I mean, I guess when I heard about it, I'm surprised the scale of something that coordinated hasn't happened sooner, because that just seems like a given of a great way to infiltrate and take out insurgent cells. Dude, I didn't read anything about kids dying.

56:30 That's super awful, I did not know that they had gotten kids. Well, and I mean, here's the deal like granted, it's also one of those things like anyone could claim anyone can claim it. But also, like all these hezbollah guys weren't like out in the field, they're like at home. But I did see I saw the videos of them blowing up in public. Yeah, like it didn't seem like anyone around them got hurt right and and. Yeah, but like it's also like dad's at home on the couch with the kids. Yeah, like it's, it's. It's, it's a part of you know what happened before you know and it's sad um and uh, but so it is a little bit. A little it is indiscriminate in that fact if you don't you know, but it's you know. They did know that it was Hezbollah walkie talkies and pagers and so I was like what a crazy.

57:14 Like Jack Carr thriller novel type of like yeah, like like this is in a, or like you know, jack Ryan, like type of like kick off a movie type thing. Like what in the world? Did you ever see that movie with Don Cheadle where he plays an agent undercover in a terrorist cell in New York and he has to coordinate a single day of nationwide bombings that Al Qaeda is trying to plan? I don't think so. He's supposed to coordinate different. I can't remember what the movie was called, but essentially the big plot reveal and for anyone who hasn't seen his movie, don't listen, skip ahead if you.

57:57 If you're like, oh don, cheadle, cia agent terrorist movie it's called traitor, I think it is. Yeah, uh, don't listen to this, right? Uh, go watch traitor because it's a pretty good movie. Um, but he is required to coordinate, uh, in this terror cell. He's a part of where each terrace will go on the day and they're all going to be on a bus and they're all going to have their explosive vests on them and what he ended up doing, very subtly, is coordinating all of them via flight plans and taxes and stuff. He got them all on the same bus and you don't realize it until the moment the bus blows up. But he minimized the amount of civilian casualties because he got them confined on one bus and it was something like 70 different terrorists that he got coordinated onto one bus with no civilians.

58:50 So it was down to the bus driver that he had like as extremists and it was. It was a pretty insane, like you see it, and you're like, wow, I did not see that coming, cause it doesn't allude to like his plan and he's also like he is truly an Islamist and he's very sympathetic to, uh like the motivations behind this cause. Right, because it's like the leader of this terrorist cell for the Taliban has actually got quite a good reason to be at beef with the US, and so it is that back and forth. You're like, dude, what is he going to do? And it ends up being a pretty insane reveal. But that's kind of what it reminded me of immediately.

59:32 I was like someone watched that and someone was like what, if we kind of do that? You know what I mean. Oh yeah, no, it's wild. It's heating up over there and there was a report that came out about what all these different leaders, leaders of Hezbollah, what they were saying. You know, with some like you know sentences at least, and you know an actual, actual intel of like you know. Here's what Hezbollah leaders are saying they're responsible. Here's what Israel is saying they're responsible. Here's what Iran saying they're responsible. And there's like US response and it's like Joe Biden said he'll talk to Netanyahu and then quote relatively soon, unquote, like gosh, okay.

1:00:15 Yeah, no kidding, right, dude, I don't even. I like I was just talking about when we were in DC with the wife. And I was just like we saw what's it called Marine One take off from the White House while we were doing our nighttime tour and I was like I bet he's going to Camp David to just chill out, just have a beer. And I'm just like, what do you think he's doing? I'm like I bet he's just chilling, I bet he's sleeping. Through these last couple months, you know what I mean, we don't hear anything about Biden really anymore in the news press. Um, I'm sure he'll get around to doing stuff, um, but uh, anyways, the uh, yeah, the stuff, the psychological warfare coming out, it's just crazy.

1:01:04 Um, and I just again, like I said, I, I thought think it's phenomenal, I think it's a very and I say phenomenal like, not like I want to make little of like how awful war is or anything, but I am genuinely amazed at the coordination that would have to go into something like that and pull it off in that success and, like you said, the success of the PSYOP. To like people straight up destroying their communication network out of fear, like that's unreal, dude. I mean you, just in one day you threw people back to this. You threw your enemy back to the stone age and totally thwarted any sense of cohesion, to perform any kind of really organized, uh, mass attack like hamas did.

1:01:48 And so, um, yeah, I mean it's getting crazy, but you know, uh, unlike generations before us, pat, we don't fear the war. We mean the war. And uh, I found it pretty funny when I'm just getting like literally, you know, getting reports and reading like live people on the ground in Israel and like different discord communities. I'm a part of reporting like what's going on and I'm getting like that one side of thing of people like just, you know, offering raw, on the ground intelligence that's verifiable, not, you know, rumor has it right?

1:02:28 Um, rumor has it right. And then, at the same time, someone's sending me like this meme of like, uh, this one is um, from that, uh, ben stiller and um robert downey jr movie, um, what's the jungle one? Uh, tropic thunder, tropic thunder. Yeah, it is all them in the apache, not in the patch, in the Black Hawk flying. It's like me and the boys on the way to war, because Taylor Swift and Beyonce told a bunch of uninformed white chicks to vote for Kamala. Yep. It's just like all these other ones, like people's reactions to the start of World War I Tragedy it's like newspaper headlines Tragedy of the Austrian throne Murder of Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife.

1:03:12 People's reaction to the start of World War II Sunday Dispatch Special Late News War Official. People's reactions to the start of World War III Fortnite kids when they get their first kill in Iran and they're doing like the Fortnite jam two-step dance. Yeah, me and the boys making world war three memes, knowing we may end up in a history book at some point. And it's like all of the spider-man villains snickering around, uh, drawing and I'm just like, yeah, it is crazy, it do be, it do be like that, like we are. Literally most of us are coping by making jokes about how we might have to go to war and I think that's I don't know.

1:03:55 Man, I kind of really appreciate that sense of humor, that I feel like I'm not alone in that dark sense of humor yeah, I think there's like a yeah, yeah, like the two sides to it to be like, in one sense, like the gotta laugh to, not cry about it, you know, type of thing, and and there's also like this, like like complete disconnection from the reality of it in some, in some aspects too, and, like you were saying, there's people in israel putting out like this, their own memes, right, or whatever. So, yeah, and it's um, it's wild, the kind of the, the mentality and the, the approach. I don't know uh, uh, you know the sad thing, some of the it's like the.

1:04:43 Then there's like the sad truth behind some of the memes that's part of it too where it's just like that's why, why does it uh connect with people? Where it is like, yeah, I do feel like there's a you know whatever like world war three, because taylor swift told people to, you know? vote for somebody it's like and that very. That is also the world we live in, which is just kind of uh, kind of fickle and phony and just like where, uh, that is how people make their decisions. People will make their decisions based off of what they think is popular opinion or um what they think is best for just them individually, or make a decision of like who to vote for, just based off of um, like, uh, um, yeah, because someone told them to.

1:05:34 And then also leaders making decisions based off of just seeming like because of what will give them more power, keep them in power, you know, and uh, and that's not a new thing on on that front, you know, but the um, the most. I think most young people get their news from memes. Oh yeah. You know, I think I got you. I believe that a hundred percent. I mean I think I get most of my news, like I said, from streamers or like a short, short uh highlight posts. You know what I mean. Like on, I mean I don't have Instagram really anymore. Like I'm on Instagram right now, just signed in onto the computer and seeing everything I haven't seen in the last like six months.

1:06:18 But like on YouTube, I get, like you know, community posts from someone I follow about like latest news or events going on and I'm like dope, didn't know that was happening. And usually I see that before like any of the news like uh channels I follow get something out like, or before I see like something like uh from CNN talking about it. you know what I mean for sure, and the world communication moves so fast and it's shrunk the world so much that there's too much dang stuff to keep track of too much stuff to stay up on. Like you know, even the stuff we've covered tonight from these, like you know, uh, uh, hurricanes in a like most of america would not even known about what happened in, uh, north carolina.

1:07:06 You know, even, I think even like, yeah, speed of communication, like you know, in the 60s and 70s we had, you know, and in 40s we had radio and then news television. But even like speed of communication, like you know, in the 60s and 70s we had, you know, and in 40s we had radio and then news television. But even like, prior to that be like I don't know, you're going to find out in a little while in a newspaper, right, or whatever. You're going to find out after some time. It's like the there's so many things happening all the time to keep up on. There's not necessarily time in the day to read every article that comes out about every everything that happened in the world that day and that we feel like we kind of have to stay up on, which is like it's kind of crazy too, in a sense that, um, not saying we shouldn't be concerned for other people, but like, just in a general sense, being like in america why it's weird to be completely concerned with, like a war going on literally on the opposite side of the globe.

1:07:53 I'm not saying that I'm not concerned about it, that we shouldn't be, but it's just, it's an. It's a new, uh new phenomenon in a lot of ways and probably a part of like what's driving a lot of like, uh, just like you know, uh, this existential doom mentality that so many people have. Because it's a, you can't go a day without hearing, like you know, whatever is going on I mean you either have to like clutch things and white knuckle and just grab as much as you can, cause you know so much is going to fly by you and you have to try to constantly stay on top of it and like what you grab, hold on to tight and grab the next thing and kind of let you know it's like, it's like I think about it.

1:08:41 Um, you either walk down the aisle of the grocery store this is a. This is a weird analogy, but it's what I'm going for here, man, you know that's. You know a game show where you had to like you're limited time and you had to get so many items to add up to a certain price from a certain aisle, or something like that. It was way back in the day, 90s kids remember. I feel like, um, so you're either like with the latest news and social media and all that, you're like frantically grabbing things and trying to throw them in the basket to keep track of as much as you can and know what you should worry about, or you're looking around at it and you're engaging with things that interest you and you're accepting there's nothing that I have that I can do to control any of this and it's okay, and like I'm still going to wake up and take a breath of fresh air and do my thing to look out for the ones I love, and okay, like what if it does become a bigger problem?

1:09:41 Well then the next day, regardless of what I'm doing, if I'm alive I'm waking up, taking a breath of air and then doing the things I need to do for the people I love, and like that's honestly as simple as it is. And I don't know, like I don't, maybe I'm, maybe I'm being naive, but I've always boiled my problems down to that Like, and I've never really worried and stressed about something other than, like you know, I've worried about a test in the moment when I'm studying for it, and I know it's in like two hours, and I'm like, dude, I don't know if I'm going to pass this final. Uh, you know, I've I've stressed about things like that. I've stressed about, like you know, conversations I was going to have with people. But, dude, I don't worry about world war three.

1:10:21 I think about it and I think, like you know what's, where's the wisdom in preparing for something like this, right, so like I'm for something like this, right, so like I'm not going to prevent world war three. But I can tell you what I can have some you know methods of cleaning and storing water, right, and I'm not saying it's going to be enough to keep us sustained for the rest of our lives, right, but it's going to be enough that, like in any emergency situation, a hurricane, yeah, I can have clean water to drink and clean my wounds, and you know medical supplies, right, and so, like that's just like, I think the mentality of like I don't even think that's like a prepper mentality, I think that's honestly like a my hope is not in this mentality, right, and that's kind of like what I've always, that's what I've always told people.

1:11:04 I'm like, dude, at the end of the day, okay, if I'm dead, I'm in heaven with Jesus. Like to die is gain and you know, to live is I'm not gonna say to live is Christ Because I'm not being persecuted actively Like Paul was, you know what I mean, but to live is to live and just kind of do life again For another day. And so I don't know what are your opinions on it, man, because you also don't strike me as a guy who puts a lot of stock In worrying about the world. Yeah, even though, like I know you and I love who puts a lot of stock in worrying about the world. Yeah, even though, like I know you and I love to have these kind of conversations, especially off mic Right About like just how insane things could get Right and hypothesize, but I don't think you or I go home and stay up at night worrying about it.

1:11:45 No, no, yeah, I don't know if something's wrong with me or right with me in that sense either. It's just like I've said this before on the uh uh the podcast, but it's my uh um. Sometimes I think my spiritual gift is apathy. Yeah, and it's just like inside. It's like like I said, I don't know if it's a good thing or a or a bad thing, but yeah, it's just like uh, I, so many people carry around anxiety, and anxiety is basically fear of usually what's to come right. The anxiety is fear of the future in a lot of ways, and so fear of not having control over circumstances.

1:12:26 Yep Fear of not having control and fear of the future and and and it's uh, it's a really it's something I haven't struggled with much. There's been times in my life when I've been anxious about certain things or you know, or for certain like seasons in life, but um, the I just have a, a piece about things that are going to work out. And and I feel like you know out and, and I feel like you know, part of it is I. I'm also either overconfident or I am in some ways competent, like I'm like feel like I could, I'll make it through something or I'll we'll figure it out. On the other side, whatever it is. You know it's like, you know something, financial burden or whatever we'll get through this, you know they decide.

1:13:07 Or you know, um, uh, you know sickness is can't get. That sickness is one that does like you know they decide. Or you know, um, uh, you know, sickness is can't get. That sickness is one that does like, you know, especially like sick kids, things like that is something that is like. That does bring up a lot of angst for me. But I also, like that's a time in my life when I have to actively practice like the peace, sure, in my life, and grab hold to the, to the promises of peace, you know, and that's that's like when angst does come in me. But I think too, just being taught over and over and over again, growing up like cast your cares on him, for he cares for you. And then the other one is like you know, just do the lilies fret, do the birds?

1:13:51 worry. It's like today has enough anxiety in itself. Will I not take care of you if I? take care of them, and so today, has enough worries of its own, you know. And so yeah, it's a. You got to go day to day and tomorrow's not promised, and so it's kind of a. Yeah, it's the way I've been, I've learned, it's a little bit the way I naturally operate, but also it's the way I've learned to operate too, you know. So it's like you have to do both. You got to take whatever natural ability you do have and then also grow it and strengthen it, you know. Yeah, and I think, too, like I'm sure there's plenty of people who could hear this and be like, well, that's easy for you guys to say not being in Palestine or Israel.

1:14:37 Right, it's easy for you guys to say not being in North Carolina. My response to that, though, is like I do think my exposure to those people, you know, for me it was a lot of it. It was like with incredibly uh, poor, uh people in Mexico like Ensenada dangerous places in Ensenada where I I got to talk to these people who live down there saw gang violence every day. So I mean, I'm not gang saw cartel violence and state government violence every day, right, and I got to listen to them and be like you know, like every day. Right, and I got to listen to them and be like you know like, how do you live here? Why are you building anything here? Why are you working?

1:15:19 Like? This is like any day now you could catch around through, you know your concrete wall and be done, and you know. I, of course, I wasn't asking those kinds of questions, but I was listening to people ask those questions because I was. I was a young man, I mean a young boy, honestly. I was middle school and high school and all of them always had the same response of like what, like what? What gains me? Nothing to worry about this. This is where I am, this is my current circumstance, this is where I live. I trust in God and my hope is in God and I do what I can to take care of my loved ones and my family around me.

1:15:59 But you know, I don't have the means to pick up and leave, and if I picked up and left, my day-to-day problems would still be where I go. And you know, it did always blow my mind that like. That was just their approach to everything. And I'm sure you've encountered the same thing when you talk to people in Israel, palestine, right, like. Their perspective is like, not like. Yeah, you know what. Screw God from birthing me here. You know what I mean. It's just they're like oh, it's life. Yeah. And like, yeah, it can be very frightful at times and there are days where I'm worried, but like at the end of it, what am I gonna do? Just live under a table? right, yeah, and that's not to say that they don't carry worry or trauma from their experiences like and like yeah and or like an underlying, like angst too, and because there is that too in some of these places and all of a sudden it flares up.

1:16:48 But then yet for, by and large, the resiliency of they still go get dinner yeah, they still go get milk. They still fill up their car with gas yeah, they still go to the local hardware store to buy nails and wood right, definitely, and then, by and large, that's mankind's how they operate, it's how we operate it's how it's why we're around, right, it's just like the across the globe people going through all sorts of lavish lives and also living in completely, you know, impoverished and or difficult circumstances. Um and the uh. You see a lot of. You'll see a lot of smiling faces in lots of those hard places.

1:17:34 I truly do think a common thing. When I talk to Americans who have such a deep fear, like fear where they don't even want to think about what's going on in the Middle East. They don't want to even talk and work out the concept of like voting in the next election who the president is going to be, what's going to happen in ukraine. You know like they're. They're so terrified of even entertaining those ideas and the anxiety it will give them and I, I think, across a lot of those people, one thing that I've noticed that's in common with a bunch of them is that they haven't gone to those places. They've never been there, even to like for like a visit or like a.

1:18:17 I'm not saying that I'm not, you know, this is no way like they're less than because they didn't go volunteer, give their time, but they just haven't been exposed to see that people still flourish and live there. You know, like people still have families and full lives and are a part of communities and it's like, yeah, you know what this, this is tough. Some days Also, boil it down. It's a lot of the same thing, you know, people do everywhere else, and so I think like I don't know. I personally believe like that is like the most defining kind of factor when you see like people come from, like you know, a privileged society like America, and it seems like the people who can comprehend or might have apathy towards how dangerous or dark or foreboding a situation might be, and their mentality is like, well, just got to keep on keeping on.

1:19:08 I think a lot of those people just have that mentality because they saw others, while they're going up in those circumstances, be able to have that mentality. Yeah, um, I don't know. Do you think there's anything to that or do you do you think I'm talking to my butt? No, yeah, I think that, uh, exposure to a healthy worldview definitely, you know, quenches those fears and gives you understanding and perspective, because I think perspective is, is the the main thing, and perspective is something I always talk about, something I think is super important to have, and, um, the more perspective there's, there's not, there's maybe not a unhealthy amount of perspective to have on something. Now, it can put you into a, a quandary, it can put you into the gray areas, can put you into the depths, it can put you into the heights.

1:19:49 It can put you into the gray areas. It can put you into the depths, it can put you into the heights. It can put you into. Analysis paralysis is what I hear a lot for too much perspective. Yeah, you can get trapped with analysis, paralysis and or like moral ambiguity or all sorts of things like that, but by and large, it's like to have perspective, is going to give you it's, I'll say this gives you options of how to see the situation. Right is through your, maybe your cell phone screen and your algorithm that's feeding your fear, or something like that, or like whatever it is.

1:20:33 Like, um, or take it back to a long time ago and all you knew was your little village. You didn't even know it was over the hill, you had no idea what's going on over there. Or same thing, like, back away from the cell phone, get some other points of view, go over the hill and see what's going on. Like, you can at least be like I don't like it over there, I'm coming back. Or like, oh, life can be different. Or oh, there's, there's all these things. It gives you, uh, the ability to decide and choose how you stop. You have to choose how to respond to it. So perspective can put you into, uh, some some crisis, existential crises as well. But, yeah, at least allows you to come through on the other side with a more well rounded understanding. Yeah, because, like, even like I've, you know, I've, I've, I've got friends, so I've said, hey, man, like, come to israel with me, let's travel over there and like during peace time here, there's like I I'm not gonna do that, man, like I can't, it's not like, it's not safe, I'm not gonna do that.

1:21:25 It's just like what you know, like yeah, or whatever kind of like yeah, I hear what you're saying like there's wisdom in being, like you know, some people like I, like some people just go walking into, you know uh, iran or iraq, right, thinking like I can just be a tourist from america here. Like two college girls want to go backpack, and so they're gonna go out and just go in the Middle East right now. Yeah, exactly, right yeah. Doesn't work out. There's like I think there's foolishness. And then there's like like there's doing something careless and reckless and foolish. You know like there's like that.

1:22:06 I mean you know that classic example of like're at a resort in mexico and they're like, yeah, don't leave the resort. And like you're leaving the resort and like, hey, don't leave the resort. And you're like, well, what are you gonna do? Arrest me? and they're like, no, but you will die yeah, and then they were like whatever, and then they leave the resort and then they die, you know. So there's like the difference, like, but like it's kind of like I feel like the same thing. You know, no matter where you go, as long as you're practicing some wisdom and going to places where it is wise to be, most of the time the locals there are going to be looking out for you because they don't really want you to die, and like. Then there's also the points of time where, like I would say, like right now, it's probably not really wise to go to israel.

1:22:50 Wasn't wise to probably travel to israel last night, right, but peace time, why not go right? In fact, like I don't know, I mean, I know a lot of people online who have gone to israel to be on the ground, reporting right or palace on right, and they none of them have died, like because they're practicing a little bit of wisdom and being in secure, safe areas. Right, because the flip side is, if you have the perspective of not being laissez-faire, but you're like, yeah, I'm going to go do this Also, I could be like in the backpacker girl situation. I could be taken, know, taken, captured, abused or whatever.

1:23:33 There are people, there's bad people in the world too. That's part of that's a part of perspective, right, that's what it tells me. We do dive into some, we dive into evil topics here and we talk about evil things that have happened and a part of that is it's not only a part of evil things when I have perspective and understanding around what is going on and why and who and all these things, and so it gives you a well-roundedness and yeah, so, going back to like the anxiety pieces, I think that you have to accept what you can't control and the things, the things you can control, take control of them and that's you know and control what you can and accept the stuff you can't and let it.

1:24:19 Let it play out the way it's going to play out and and also it's like hard to like, also it's funny. You're like, don't take your existence so seriously. I don't know too. There's kind of like it's hard to from like a perspective of being like I mean Pat some people, all they have, though, in their life, in their faith, is their existence. You know, so many people don't believe in existence outside of the here and now. Oh yeah, definitely, and it's it's kind of pearl clutching. You know what I mean. For sure, For sure, and and it's I'm not saying to not value your, like, your life and actually living, but like then also, like I'd say, I feel empowered and more powerful and greater and more influential by knowing that, on this timeline, I'm a fart in the wind.

1:25:07 Yeah, I could get smoked at any moment. I have no earthly political standing. I've got on this geological time clock man. I'm short and by acknowledging and getting real about what I am, it actually empowers me to like be bigger. I don't know if that makes any sense. No, I think it does. I think it not only empowers but it frees you, right, you know, frees you to be a little bit more carefree, kind of like. You know what I mean. I think it's kind of like our good old East of eden, you know, finding purpose in that you know work to make a living you know what I mean and have it and then being able to live that life, you know, versus aimlessness and the fear and the paralysis that comes with not having a living.

1:26:08 so I don't know a lot of philosophy philosophy yeah, a lot of philosophy at the end of this, but um well, uh pat, anything else you want to sign off with? you know, when you were talking about this, uh, you know, with the hurricane and and or, like you know, fear of get, fear about the zombie apocalypse or fear about a wildfire coming through and stuff I was I was thinking, I was like it's time, it's time to do another series. We got to get people, some people, in here. It's been a while since we had some guests and like, is it time to get the preparedness series going? You know, get some and I'll say this on here and we won't do a fucking year.

1:26:49 But but the um, you know, it's like, uh, in light of talking about people who are there, are people struggling with anxiety, wondering about their capability, wondering about the future. Um, and a part of finding peace in yourself is also a capability and perspective. And so the uh, you know, to bring in. We've wanted for a while to bring in people on here to just talk about what does it mean to be prepared? And that's from some super, we'll do some super practical standpoints. Like you're saying, how do you have clean water for whatever may come your way? How do you? have medicine for what will come your way. And then I was like, and I was thinking too like, and then we could get into, even like the like the prepare your soul you know, like are you?

1:27:35 Prepared? Are you prepared for it? All you know? So it's just to do a little series and get, get some people in here, some people with some expertise. It's fun and talk and tell stories and things. I think that might be. Might be time, yeah. And I know I got people who want to talk about, especially radio, my father-in-law, big radio guy, billy Jean's dad and man. Is he just an insane wealth of knowledge? On like operating radios, not like old radio shows. No, he has a license for every bandwidth, not like old radio shows. No, he has a license for every bandwidth. He's who I consult when I'm talking about us putting the actual tower up.

1:28:18 Oh, yeah and yeah. Anywho, ken, thanks for joining us. We hope you enjoyed this kind of review of everything. I hope you're looking at funny memes. I hope that in the darkness of all this, you're finding ways to laugh. You know, like seeing videos of Florida man out in those hurricane winds just having a good time Seeing the memes about, you know, the bombs in the middle east and, yes, it may be morbid, but you know comedy is something that helps us all cope mentally.

1:29:02 Uh, and I think, last but not least, but of course, like you know the comedy and the memes that comes out of the darkness of diddy and what's going on there. I did see someone make a video about how they're rich because they struck oil and someone said well, you know it'll cost us so much money to really refine oil and he's like no, no, no, not that kind of oil, Baby oil, yeah. And how Diddy rolled up and bought their land. That's funny, yeah, that's funny. Beverly Hillbillies 2.0. Exactly Hampton Hillbillies. I hope, ken, that you find comedy in this week.

1:29:42 Don't take it too seriously. Don't live in fear. You know. Get up, look after the people you love, go to bed, do it again, but with that till next time.