The Mick & Pat Show - Hurricanes, Heroes, and Community Resilience

0:00 Let's begin this morning with Tropical Storm Milton expected to hit Florida's west coast as a major hurricane. On Wednesday, the Florida governor already preemptively declaring a state of emergency in dozens of counties, with a lot of folks still cleaning up the mess from Hurricane Helene. With 15 million people now under flood alerts through Thursday, some in Tampa spent Saturday look at that preparing sandbags to try to hold back the expected storm surge. I was wrong. I was wrong man. I was thinking last week when I heard about Hurricane Eileen. Well, two weeks ago now I was like man, people are going to be okay, it's not unsurvivable. And now I'm like back to back.

0:42 That's pretty rough man. Midland is already in under 11 hours. It is the fastest growing storm in all recorded history. Since we've been able to record and measure how quickly storms become Category 5s. It's the fastest hurricane to reach Cat 5. That is scary. Yeah, and these are back to back, I mean within a week, a week and a half half we haven't had that in a minute dude, it's been a while since we've had back-to-back big ones like that. So, hey, folks, skin, welcome to the mick and pat show. Uh, I'm mix in here with pat and we're we're about to actually have a couple guests on here to talk about their experiences with, uh, you know, the current wind-up of hurricane midland and what it's uh like and what they're preparing for.

1:32 Um, good friends of ours, and we'll keep it casual. Um, you know, we're not trying to make, we're not making a documentary. Uh, then, um, we'll have someone who was actually on the ground with the recovery effort for Hurricane Helene in North Carolina, correct? He was down in Nashville, yep. He was down there for about the past six days, so just got back and we're going to call him in. Great yeah. So first you know to be considered. We're going to reach out to our contact on the ground in Florida, and just because you know, he's two hours ahead. I were ringing in the fudge.

2:19 Can you hear me? Yeah, dude, what's up fudge. What's up? boys, you're live on the uh, the Mickey Pat show. Oh, love it Long time. What's up, fudge? What's up? boys, You're live on the Mickey Pat Show. Oh, love it Long time. What do you say? Long time listener, First time caller over here. Oh yeah, oh yeah, dude. So I missed a call from you today and I was wondering if you were calling, because are you having to evacuate your family? No, we're good for now. We're central Florida and so we're away from the storm surge, which is the most dangerous part of it, so we're staying put for now. We'll leave if the guidelines tell us to leave, but other than that, we're going to stay put and let the roadways and the hotels and the gas stations be for people who need to leave.

3:04 But other than that, we're gonna stay put and let the the roadways and the hotels and the gas stations be for people who need to leave right on you. Uh, are you gassed up? Are you prepped? I'm gassed up. It was a fight today to find some gas. My truck got some premium gasoline today, so it'll be extra happy, nice dude. Um. So yeah, we're gassed up in all the cars and I got about a half tank of propane, because propane has been out since I got back in town from texas yesterday. Um, but we'll see how it goes dang, you should have stayed out for another week I know miss the storm I need to be. you know, we got camp prepped up today and um we have generators and Generac systems at camp, so if it gets real bad we can head out there.

3:48 Oh yeah, and what are people like? Are people heading out? Are they like, are other people because of this last one that just came through, or like, do you feel like more people are evacuating? Are you hearing like friends, other people, like some family, because some of your family's out is going to be in line with this one, right? Yeah, yeah, so currently, right now, we're at least the latest projection I saw. Well, there's kind of two main projections right now, and one of them it's a little south of us and that'll be, from what I understand, a better projection for everybody, with less storm surge all over the country or all over the state, and one of them will put us right in the eye of it Sometimes late Wednesday night, early Thursday morning.

4:34 I got a question for Fudge. All right, fudge, just wondering. So we're looking at this right. We're, of course, not familiar with at all what it's like to be in a hurricane. You said central Florida. Do you mean like around the tampa center area of florida? no, uh, in the general vicinity of orlando, a little more north in orlando gotcha. And when I'm looking at this, is it better to be in the path of like the eye of the hurricane or is it better to be more on the fringes? Because I'm just wondering if it's like a blender to be the eye of the hurricane. Or is it better to be more on the fringes? Because I'm just wondering if it's like a blender? yeah, of course but above is better than below. So north is better than the north end, is traditionally better than the south end, and I'm a new Floridian here, so if I say anything wrong, sorry, I'm still learning, but from what I've learned so far is the north is better than the south side.

5:26 It's a little bit of a cleaner storm, is what they say. The south side is usually dirtier with the arms and stuff, more tornadoes and that sort of thing. So, yeah, I mean you don't really want to be in the eye because that's where you're going to get the eye wall, which is going to be your highest winds and highest chance of tornado. Gotcha Okay. And then just curious, you know, with everything that we're hearing about the responses to Hurricane Helene, especially up in like North Carolina, do you see a lot more people taking this seriously in the idea of like self-preparing or like self-reliance? Because it seems like a lot of people have now realized that like they might not get the same immediate response from the government in aid that they thought they might get yeah, I would say.

6:17 You know, floridians stay pretty prepared all the time for this sort of thing and stay pretty self-reliant. Um, of course, our governor our governor today, you know ripped the gates down on some um dump sites that were closed so they could dump trash all day today to get, because the one of the big problems with this is there is just piles and piles of waste from people pulling out their houses after they flooded, just on the side of the roads in these places. That is expected to have 150 mile per hour winds and 10 or 12 foot storm surges, so there's just gonna be kitchen cabinets ripping through the air. We don't get them cleaned up. So our governor, your our governor, governator I call him that because he's awesome also um, he has put in a big response of anybody he can get his hands on to get that stuff cleared up, and he's put in some executive orders to keep dump places to dump trash and debris open 24 hours a day right now to get stuff cleared up.

7:20 Fudge, have you? Have you seen the movie crawl? I have not. No, okay, how serious of a threat are alligators during a hurricane? Uh, alligators are not really a threat ever. I don't think see, I think a majority of americans not in florida think alligators are legit a serious cause of concern during a hurricane so that's good to hear that's good to know that you don't have to worry about them coming and taking advantage of the high waters. I mean, you'll see, I'm like there'll probably be an alligator in the street or something, but it's just an alligator, spoken like a true Florida man out there, dude, right on, man, we know you got to get to it. The general vibe of this storm is a lot more serious than last one's people.

8:04 There's a lot of evacuations happening. I-75 was bumper to bumper, taking people 4 and 5 hours to go, 30 miles today do you have perhaps like a way of helping the rest of us understand, just like, the difference between a cat 4 and a cat 5 in scale? you know, I don't think a lot of people outside of experiencing these storms really understand the magnitude yeah, I mean I haven't experienced either yet in my time in florida, but from what I've been researching seeing, we haven't seen a cat five in a very long time, so there's been some metrics that are putting this at.

8:45 You know storms that are on the the 50 and 100 year plane of you know how insurance marks those things wow okay, it's a big, big storm dang well and a lot of people are evacuating and um, batting down the hatches and getting ready. All right, sounds good, man. Well, stay safe out there. We might have to maybe check in next week to see how it went down there. Yes, Yep, check in. So we'll be here and then we'll see how it goes. Do windy and rainy? All right, sounds good. Fudge, well, get some sleep. You've got an early day tomorrow, all rainy.

9:26 All right, sounds good. Fudge, we'll get some sleep. I got an early day tomorrow. All right, thanks, dude. God bless fudge man. God bless him and his family. Prayers that just, uh, safety and wisdom would be over them to know what to do, because sometimes it's just like I mean I'm sure you've been in that scenario here in color with our Colorado weather at times, but sometimes it's like, all right, god, give me the wisdom to know when I need to call it Right. Have me not make it too early or not too late, you know. Right, just to know. Yeah, when or when? Because you want to be someone who's going to like, stick it out or like, or like you're just like, oh, things will be fine, it will be okay. But then there's sometimes you gotta make the call, you gotta make the call.

10:08 Yeah, yeah, I think about like there was a time where I was driving through a like blizzard in the middle of the night and unfortunately it was so warm during the day that the roads were still real slick and had it in crude snow, so you just couldn't see the roads. Man, it was just jet black in the mountains and I was like, all right, god, give me the wisdom to know when it's time to pull over and get a hotel. Yeah, and it got to the point where I saw every other car and truck and semi truck pulling over, you know like things that were kitted out to do blizzard weather in the mountains. I was like, all right, well, if they're uh, getting a hotel, I'm going to get a hotel. That's probably some good wisdom. I'm a little too arrogant. I'm just like we'll be fine.

10:50 Bro, it was like you couldn't see it was just darkness in front of you. There was no trees, it was like the road just went off into space. Man, I was like, get me the time out of his day. Um, and you know what, ken, if you want to call in and leave us a voicemail or anything, we can do that, you know, give us an update on what's going on, be our eyes and ears on the ground, leave dad jokes, whatever, but you know we'd uh, we'd always love to hear from you and you know, hopefully fudge calls in and leaves us, you know, nice voicemail that we can always roll out with updates, especially if we're not recording when there's a big update.

11:32 If it's his final moments in a hurricane, I hope he's calling to let the Mick and Pat show know what's up. Yeah, I truly do. Here's the deal. There's also been. We also said we're going to give our other guy a call here and he, uh, this is dale. Right, this is dale. He was out there, uh, and I haven't. I have no idea what his experience was like out there. I just know that he had friends out there. He wanted to get out there and make a difference and so he spent six days out to asheville area, I believe, and uh so, and we've been hearing a lot it's hard to. I've been hearing a lot. It's hard to. I've been hearing a lot of all sides of this, of what's going on there, and he was on there for a little bit, but we'll see if he can shed any light on the situation there and what's going on.

12:14 So here we'll see if we can ring him up If he's ready to rock and roll and if he uses my real name, hello, what's roll if he uses my real name? hello, what's up, dale? How's it going, pat? Hey, nice work. You didn't. You didn't blow the code name cover, just like that. You're not fired. Oh yeah, making me do extra editing work? Oh yeah, so, uh yeah. So you're live on the Make it Pat show and we're up here in the studio, the world headquarters, the secret location, and anyways, yeah, last week we talked about the Hurricane Sum on the show, but then we now that we've had someone with boots on the ground there, we wanted to call in and see, you know, now that you're back, see what your thoughts were, what you saw, what was your experience like, maybe, what were you able to do?

13:08 And, yeah, we weren't able to touch base today either, so I'd love to hear about kind of what was it like there, you know, when you flew in, and the people you saw. Yeah yeah. Yeah. So I flew in on a Wednesday afternoon, um, just just right when the Asheville airport started taking commercial flights again. Um got there and saw that there was a bunch of national guard there at the airport as well. Um, you know, not not a lot of people on that flight, but, um, I went there to help at a excel college. It's a former school. I went to there in in a black mountain area and they were actually acting as a, as a big distribution center, um, serving all the the people there that were affected by the hurricane.

13:59 Um, so pretty much when I was there, I was, you know, workinging trucks, loading trucks, moving pallets around, you know, just organizing supplies to, you know, get relief to those affected by the hurricane. I was able to go out and see some of the damage and devastation of the hurricane. You know it was pretty bad. That area was really I mean just really slammed hard. A lot of their infrastructure was down, but actually the Excel College they run on different water so they had just gotten water back and power back.

14:43 But Asheville, the big city out there, they it's it's indefinite that their water is is out. Um, holy smokes. So it's they were. They were talking about, you know, three months for them to get water back, um, but the the destruction and damage to all that was so bad now it's indefinite that they're going to have water. So you know that's pretty bad. If you've heard about, like Chimney Rock and Lake Lure, that was a pretty popular tourist area that was really slammed hard and pretty much entirely destroyed. So there was a lot of different rumors circulating around about what was going on there.

15:28 But the last I heard about that area was that the state was going to buy it and they had started, you know, bulldozing that whole city and community and they had done as much rescue as they could there, but they were just going to start bulldozing that whole city and and community and they they had done as much rescue as they could there, but they were just going to start bulldozing that whole city, um, bodies and all. So as far as, like, death tolls and all that, they still they still don't even know, but it's likely the high hundreds, probably close to a thousand, um, I think it's it's hard to get good news on what's actually going on out there.

16:10 There's, even when I was out there, there's just tons of rumors that were being passed around that were just, some of them untrue, some of them, some of them true. I mean there's a lot of bad actors, people just just looking to loot and, you know, kind of take advantage of that situation, but also I've never seen so many people hoping, caring, in my life. So you know there's a lot of good folks out there as well, trying to, you know, protect and get supplies to where it's needed. So yeah, wow, it's needed. Um, so yeah, wow, that's wild.

16:53 I mean the uh kind of just stunned to this part you were talking about, with the whole community just being straight bulldozed out. That is gonna. That's uh, that's super uh, I mean it's crazy's crazy, especially if you know if recovery efforts have gone as far as they can and it looks like it is from the pictures we've seen and stuff like the, when that, uh, when that much water pours through something, it's like turns everything into like cement, you know like, yeah, it's just gonna be messed up, and I guess from my understanding, it seems like it's pretty much like it's because of how it's like, how steep and mountainous it is there, that like, basically, this huge storm just just caused these, these just massive like um massive floods and then yeah, and then that they'd probably in the amounts of water they'd maybe never, definitely the community had never seen before, but maybe like that little part of the us, like of america, hadn't seen and like I don't know, yeah, since the river was got first carved out, yep, yep, yeah, a lot, of, a lot of that city.

17:56 I mean. I mean a lot of the city is in in asheville's is built around the um, the french broad river, I believe is is the big one out there. It's, you know, they're the whole river arts district. That was a super popular area for, you know, like downtown people come and hang out there and whatever. But it was just, I mean, that whole area was just completely destroyed. And looking at like the region as a whole, I heard that only 2% of all the people and businesses out there had catastrophic flood insurance. Just because something like that. You think hurricane, I mean that part of West North Carolina, there are hundreds of miles inland, so why would you have catastrophic flood insurance?

18:43 So, you know, why would you have catastrophic flood insurance? So there's just so many people out there that I mean not only are they going to be rebuilding, but it's, you know, for individuals it's going to be so hard for them to, you know, get back to a point where they could really financially sustain what their current lives were before you know going forward, what their current lives were before you know going forward. But overwhelmingly, I mean a lot of the places we went to, you know, deliver food to and stuff like that. You know there was a ton of response. I mean, the last couple days I was there, the distribution center I was at, they had gotten so much stuff that that the you know, yesterday and today, maybe even tomorrow, they were only giving out.

19:31 They weren't taking any, any new supplies or donations, um, just because I mean they had like a whole, you know probably multiple football field concrete pad just full of pallets of supplies and in a warehouse stocked with food and they were just trying to get stuff out to people. So there's a lot of response. You know we saw people there coming from Pennsylvania, wisconsin, alabama, georgia. There was this one group that was out there called themselves the Cajun Navy and you know they were going out with with side by sides doing doing rescue ops and um and that kind of thing, trying to find people.

20:11 And you know there's all like the politics of of FEMA coming out there late and you know they were going around and they had even seized some distribution centers and like taking their, their resources, um, but really the, the locals and people from surrounding states were responding in such a way that whatever the you know government was was trying to do or not doing. Um, not that it was irrelevant, but there was just so much response from just good-hearted individuals and and organizations that were providing relief to people. But really it's just going to be a long-term rebuilding process, especially with Asheville, I mean not having water for months going forward.

20:55 They're just going to need sustained response, you know, not just a big initial glut of resources pouring in. They're going to have to have, you know, food and water continually brought in for for months going forward. For sure, cause did. Did you hear any word about, um, people who were like, like people still stranded and like, not like up in the mountains of those areas? Um, or were they starting to be able to get? Um, get up to them? It seemed like most of those roadways that were those main veins were just completely washed out. Did you hear anything about people still being stranded in those ways? No, yeah, so what I heard the first few days I was there I mean there was, you know, we were doing like supply drops to helicopters and stuff coming in getting the medical supplies and food, and you know there's always choppers going overhead and that kind of thing.

21:48 And there were those people camped out, those Cajun Navy folks that going out doing rescue ops, folks that going out doing rescue ops. But the last two days or so I was there, um, a lot of those, those rescue people going out to to to search and find whoever they could help that was stranded. They were kind of um, coming back not not finding as many people and people that were stranded were were getting help. Um, there were like a few locations I heard about that were, you know there were some of those bad actors. There was this one spot, I think it was in Burnsville, where, like, the fire department got robbed at gunpoint and you know some crazy stuff like that.

22:31 But when it came to rescuing people, it kind of seemed like they were. There was a shortage of people that needed rescuing and a lot of the people that were stranded had gotten help. I mean, their homes were entirely destroyed but they had gotten help. I don't know where they took them or where they're staying now, but they were kind of running out of people to rescue, which was a good thing. I got a couple questions. Dale, which was a good thing, but yeah, I got a couple of questions. Dale, can you, can you hear me? This is Mick. Yeah, yeah All right. So just just a couple again to try to make sure you know, I think it's very hard for people inland.

23:12 You know, majority of our audience is based out of, like Colorado and kind of the western states here along the eastern slope of the Rockies, and so I think it's really hard for people to imagine, like what a storm like this is. And so I was wondering, like one thing I really know, when I visited Pigeon Forge and spent a lot of time there in the Smokies and I remember seeing so many farms and livestock and I've seen videos where people are reporting like their whole farms, their whole barn is swept away, and I was just wondering, like, did you have any insight or did you see anything or hear any numbers regarding, like the livestock casualty or, like you know, the amount of devastation for farms?

23:56 I think it's easy to kind of quantify in livestock, but I'm just curious about the metric because I do know, like a lot of our listeners are familiar with, like you know just how many cattle there are out here or you know how many farm operations there are. So I think that might help people kind of understand like the magnitude yeah, um, honestly, I, I couldn't, I couldn't give you a number on that. That's probably one thing I didn't really hear much about was livestock, specifically. I know that a lot of the devastation was really in those lower elevation areas around rivers. That stuff was just totally wiped out. So I imagine a fair bit of livestock were just, you know, included in that.

24:40 I couldn't, I couldn't give you a number when it. When it comes to that, um, but flying in, I did see, like I mean a lot of like, uh, like i-40 between knoxville and nashville and now they're saying that that's not going to be operational until like late, late fall of 2025, just because it was, wow, totally taken out, um, but as, as far as like livestock specifically, I I unfortunately I don't have a number for that- that's all right, I guess. Is there anything like? Is it true, though, like you know people talking about, like I hear I'm hearing stuff about, like you know complete, you know barns and operations just totally swept away because they didn't have you know they're not, like they don't have the foundation that you would usually have in a flood area, and I was wondering, like, did you meet anyone like that or did anyone discuss like the damage to, like the you know, farming community?

25:41 Not specifically. No, I didn't meet anyone talking about that, you know, but I can imagine I mean there was. You know the waters that came through, like the Biltmore House is a big, you know big, famous, famous old location out there and they had, they had like their, their big arches and there was water like 15 foot high up on those arches and you can, I've seen some satellite images of of places that you know just entire communities that were just fully devastated by it and you know some just entire communities that were just fully devastated by it. Um, and you know some of those definitely included barns and and different farms and ranches and things like that.

26:24 So you know, I can't, I can't, you know, like I said, I can't tell you exactly what that number would be, but you know, like talking about like Lake Lure and and those kinds of communities like there were those like little cities and towns that were not just like partially destroyed, like pretty much 100% destroyed, um, so that's, that's gotta include some some fair, fair amount of livestock and farms for sure. Another one that I think is like really um, adjacent to our community. You know a lot of our listeners know we love New Belgium and drink New Belgium beer, and their original brewery is out here in our neck of the woods.

27:04 But we also know they had that secondary location for manufacturing distribution and it was very massive operation in Asheville, particularly because of the water in the river in Asheville. And I was just wondering like, did you hear anything about New Belgium and you know kind of what the state of their operations are over there? yeah, I mean right now, the only, the only New Belgium that's operational is is going to be here in Colorado. I know they're a lot of their um. You know there was there's pictures and videos and I saw, even just driving down through Biltmore village there was, like you know, shipping containers wrapped around telephone poles and semi-trailers thrown into the side of you know McDonald's and just all kinds of crazy carnage through there.

27:53 I'm pretty sure, from from what I saw, from where New Belgium is located, they had to be I mean, they're not going to be operational and, like I said, there's no water I'm pretty sure New Belgium was pretty much wiped out. Yeah, because they're right on the river there. They might be just right on there. I don't think there's really anything, I mean all through there. Think there's really anything that I mean all through there. There's nothing left. So I can't imagine that they were an exception to that yeah, and you know, again, I just also want to say too is like beer is not more important than the quality of people's lives, right, but I do think it's something that people can like, conceptualize and understand, especially regarding, like, our audience, right.

28:35 So, um with that, um with that too, like when you say wiped out, you know, I think a lot of people have a misunderstanding of, like what that looks like from this kind of flood and devastation. Um, and I'm just wondering, like, are we talking? Like you know, as the flood waters are, are flowing out, you know how deep is, like the sediment that that it's pulling down with, like this mudslide in the flooding? You know like cause, I think a lot of people are thinking like, well, how can it be wiped out if the water goes away eventually? you know, I think a lot of people don't understand the visual effect that these floods have yeah, I mean, from what I saw, there were locations where it was like, you know, multiple feet deep of mud and that's like you know, downtown in Nashville there's mud, and that's like you know, downtown in Asheville there's the Biltmore Village which is kind of this historic area, just these old buildings and different businesses and stuff, but they were, I mean floodwaters all through there.

29:29 Some of them were. I mean, there's this one video of a you know like a mobile home just getting carried down the river. So as far as like sediment being carried through there, it was, you know, like feet, feet deep of mud. And they're talking a lot of that historic areas. those buildings are just going to have to be entirely condemned because now the foundation is just so unstable and pretty much a lot of that area is just turned into a floodplain now. Um, so it's not, it's not just a matter of like rebuilding, it's like that. That ground itself is just totally unstable and unfeasible for for, uh, like future construction and rebuilding.

30:11 So there's just I don't know what that's going to look like, but for right now there's just no foreseeable rebuilding on a lot of those areas. It's just crazy For sure, and like anybody listening right now, like look up like pictures of the Biltmore Village and like the stuff through there. It's like super beautiful historical buildings, like really special place, and I got to spend some time in Nashvilleashville when I was a little little kid, um, but yet, uh, it's crazy to think that lots of that stuff I mean it really these communities you know from what you're saying and what we're hearing it's like lots of these places just really aren't going to be the same. You know, people are going to have to, people are going to have to leave these communities.

30:54 Um, the rebuilding is going to take, take a very long time and so to re-establish their communities and their culture and there's gonna gonna take some time. But you know encouraging stuff you know you've been saying about, you know the the communities sound like they've really stepped up as individuals and small groups. And yeah, I mean heck, you know it's the appalachian mountains, like, like party people, they, they, they're not necessarily like, they're not like been. Uh, you know the government can come or go for them in some ways too. You know, like they're, they kind of take care of their own and stuff, but they're good. It's going to take a, like you were saying, a heavier push and a long-term push to rebuild these spots and and take care of uh, take care of all these things.

31:34 Yeah, man. Well, thanks for taking some time with us and uh, I think, uh, we've got. Mick has two more questions for you. He's holding up a two more finger sign. I just it's so. You know, it's unreal that we have someone in our community who has been here, right, and I just, I just think you, like you have an opportunity, right, you know we operate the show to enable, you know, people like you to be able to talk very freely and not worry about repercussion. That's the, that's the whole idea behind the make it pass shows that people can speak, you know, honestly, and have to worry about it. And so I guess I just really, you know one side or the other, no agenda. You know, I think I'm not trying to fish here, but I I've seen things and I know other people are watching this on youtube.

32:18 Right, they're watching. Um, tim kennedy say there's massive underreporting. You know it's a borderline criminal, the, the lack of seriousness the government has towards this situation. Uh, they're underreporting deaths and injuries and missing people. Uh, they're taking over, uh, you know, medical setup sites. Um, there's reports of like people saying the police haven't been doing anything. The police have been actually, you know, stealing themselves. Um, there's reports of um. Uh, wrangle star said like, and you know he showed footage of it, but you know I'm skeptical on it. Just like pad is like, but he showed footage of a helicopter coming down, it's rotor wash, blowing away a ton of aid and then it takes off and that could have just been a bad move and not an intentional effort, right, um.

33:12 And then I'm hearing other stuff you know of just like absolute, like uh. And then I'm hearing other stuff you know of just like absolute, like sites set up for relief where no one is actually present and when people show up to get relief aid, there's no one to actually unlock the gates and let them acquire it. Like people just are leaving supplies and not going. And I think, like you said, you know there's so many rumors and there's so many agendas of like, yep, damn, the government, the government sucks. And then there's also the agenda of you know, I see, you know people doing reports. They're like, I'm part of the national guard, I've been there on the ground and you know the government's doing everything they can. They're doing great, right? So it's like two sides out of the same you know story and it's hard to understand, when you're removed, what's going on.

33:57 So I do really just want to ask, like, is there anything that you feel, like you think, from what your experience is, that you'd want to clarify, um, or that you know, like you can speak to for sure of like, hey guys, this isn't happening, but this is. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean. So I mean the reason I went out there, um, you know I I lived in in black mountain for like a year and a half and you know just really love the area and you know there's there's great people out there and and the school I went to was, you know, had know, had a strong impact on my life. So what they were able to do with, you know, being like not just a distribution center, but I mean Ted Budd, the state senator, he actually came out and visited that distribution center I was at at Excel College and you know, to verify reports of what he'd heard, that they were the most active distribution center in the whole area.

35:01 So from what I saw, I mean they were like that's just 100 percent volunteers, like this is a college campus that just went from. You know we, we just have students out here and we're doing classes and doing our thing to like, no, we're going to use our resources to help these people and do whatever we can. And you know there were volunteers coming in there. There was like this Mexican church that came and just you know, served for like a couple of days, just just, you know, moving around supplies and volunteering and doing whatever they could. So definitely like what you're saying about a lot of the. You know, like, like, uh, like pat said, it's the appalachian mountains and like you know those people are going to get it done.

35:46 Like, honestly, the, the government, fema, like whatever kind of politics. You know bs is going on there. You know the news can, can spin it whatever way they want, but from what I saw, when it came down to it, it was the people that were getting stuff done and locals and you know people from surrounding states that were coming in and donating their time and you know all the helicopters we saw that were coming in and you know, using their own fuel and using their own time and and money to fly out stuff to individuals. It was the. The primary impact was was citizens, um, you know, not so much the government.

36:30 So I think, I think there's a lot of you know politics like, oh, did, did fema respond fast enough? Like, oh, like, oh, fema's, fema's there, but they're not doing anything. Like the National Guard's there, but like they're just kind of standing around not doing a lot. It was the people that were getting stuff done, man, um, you know, like I said, there's people open, caring. I think it was. It was the. You know it's times like that where the second amendment right is is key to you know. It's the citizens that are going to be actually protecting each other and looking out for their own best interests, and I think a lot of the local law enforcement and you know paramedics they were pretty overwhelmed. So the fact that there are, you know, individuals that are going to come in and use their know-how and their-how and their, their knowledge to get things done, I think that was the most, most powerful thing that I saw.

37:21 All the, all the new stuff, man, you can you can just get lost in all that, but it was really the individuals getting getting things done and getting people helped out. From what I saw, Wow, man, dude, thank you for that. Um, appreciate your honesty there too, and, um, yeah, that's that's what we value the most here, just getting that like accurate, honest information from the ground. I think the the last question I have, which I think is everyone's question, right, everyone who doesn't have the ability or flexibility to, you know, go and do what you did. Um, is there anything that you believe you could recommend as, like, a reputable way to contribute?

38:01 Um, you know, I know there's a lot of you know uh, groups that are offering donations to go there. Um, but you know, sometimes you got to be careful of like the scam, of like these things that are always trying to take advantage of a, of a disaster, and so I'm just wondering, like, do you have anything that you could pass on to like us and the listeners, of how we can support, even if we can't get out there boots on the ground ourselves? Yeah, for sure. You know, like I said, I was helping out with my old school out there. They're called Excel College. I mean I personally trust those people and and I know I mean I was, I was with them, helping with them the last few days and it's just like you know, I was just kind of doing like grunt labor and whatever I could to help out.

38:49 But you know they they had a ton of resources and supplies donated but in terms of like financial support there was, there wasn't as much of that. Um, so I would, I mean personally I would recommend like look up Excel college and they have they have a fund set up to to help those people and to be able to continue sustaining their operations. And you know it's not like it was just some some random you know organization, but it was actually. You know Ted Budd came out there, state senator and verified that it was like the most active distribution center. And you know they're just doing that because they love the Lord and you know the Lord's heart is to help those in need.

39:32 So I think a big way to help them continuing their resources as like the most active distribution center in Western North Carolina, would be financial donations, just because the incoming supply of like physical donations and food and supplies and all that was pretty big. But they're kind of needing some more financial support out there. So that's an organization I can recommend 100% to give to. I look up Excel College and there's links and you can find them and give there. When you say Excel, is it spelt like the Microsoft Word stuff, the Microsoft EXCEL?

40:12 Alright, great. Well, hey, those are my questions. Thank you, dale, I appreciate it. Thanks so much, man yeah, for sure, thank you yeah, man, thank you for getting out there, your heart behind, wanting to help these people out. Um, as, uh, I think it's awesome to uh, you know, capture the moment, capture the opportunity to go serve in that way. Um, I've seen things like in my life over time where I haven't been able to, or I just haven't chose to, and, um, like, there's parts of me that like regret not engaging that. So I'm I'm just excited that you took uh advantage of your uh advantage of your uh, your ability to go get that done, and so, um, I think that, uh, it's uh, it's admirable and honorable that you would uh, you know, go take your time to uh pour out into a community in that way and think outside yourself.

41:10 And so, um, yeah, I call this show we joke around and we fart joke and whatever else, but, like, things like this are what I like most about when we get into like kind of the real stuff, and so it's awesome to hear what you saw out there, what you're able to do, as well, as, you know, just excited to get this out to other people so they can hear about your experience and maybe be encouraged to, you know, step outside themselves as well when people are in need. So, yeah, thanks so much for taking time with us and and we'll, we'll let you go here, cause it's getting kind of late. Yeah, yeah, no, thank you. And I mean I'm I'm blessed to have a job and a boss that's flexible and understands that you know stuff that really matters, so I'm definitely appreciative of that, you know so.

41:56 Yeah, really matters. So I'm definitely appreciative of that, you know. So, yeah, definitely wasn't just to my own accord, but definitely had support on the home front to go out as well. But, yeah, thank you Right on, sir. Well, you have a good evening and we'll see you soon. All right, Sounds good. Thanks, Pat. Thank you, Nick God bless it's a man that was, I'll be honest, like as a as a just a raw Emotional action or a reaction. I'm really surprised, man, like I mean, because there's so much like we've heard and seen Over the last week, right, but like to hear just from like someone that we know Like within our community and just like some of the things and seen over the last week, right, but like to hear just from like someone that we know like within our community and just like some of the things he said, I was I'm just like, wow, that's, that's kind of unreal.

42:45 You know what I mean? Like that's. There's a couple times there where he was talking that you and I just wide-eyed oh yeah, you know what I mean no, for sure, for sure. It's like what is going on bro yeah, I I guess, um, one thing I don't know I was kind of debating it here like do you think there's any value in us like looking at any of this like social media content that people are posting like I was gonna play a video, you know tim kennedy's update but I just don't know if there's like necessarily more value to that than what we just heard, because what we just heard was super awesome. Yeah, I think that he covered it for us and gave us an idea of what's going on there and, like he said, whatever your algorithm's feeding you, whatever your media's feeding you, he got to the heart of the matter on that.

43:32 And, yeah, people out there listening, if you want to go, dive into whatever algorithm you've got. If you want to go, you know, dive into whatever uh algorithm you've got, you can to go see stuff and you should, at least, to you know, continue to, um, uh, have a deeper understanding of the situation there. But, um, yeah, I think, breaking down you know other things we've seen, um, like you said, what I think it's so cool is that the people stepped into the situation and, like, um, I meant it when I said, like the appalachian people out there, like you know, just like you know, they're different kind of folk, bro. Yeah, athens, tennessee, man, oh yeah, the only town to like beat the government, oh yeah, you know what I?

44:16 mean like because we did a whole. We did a whole deal on that? yeah, we did go back and listen to the origin of the term redneck, exactly about the coal miners out there and uh, um, yeah, this is a part of the world that embodies this little. I think that all americans at least have a little bit of this in them. But it's like from the appalachian mountain region, that like that thing in us that says you know, you know me and mine, we're going to be okay, we're going to see this through.

45:05 You know, regardless of the bigger picture out there, these people down there embody it well, and so, yeah, I think that you know as far as like continuing to cover that. Um, yeah, I think that you know, as far as like continuing to cover that. I think he covered it all. You know, like, um, the this region, looking at these flood maps and these things and the kind of stuff that Dale was talking about, I mean about just scraping a town. I mean holy smokes. Yeah, that that like I think there was a lot of things Dale said, but the idea I mean he said bulldozing it, bodies and all it's like the acceptance that underneath this mud, this sediment, the ruins of these buildings, we're not getting people out of it.

45:51 What's best is to dig it down to the pipes and redo like we're not getting people out of it, Right. I know, like it, what's best is to dig it down to the pipes and redo. Exactly Because you know, I mean, when I mentioned earlier like it turns into cement, I wasn't joking around the fact that like you'd have to have teams and teams of people painstakingly going through every little bit, I mean it'd be like paleontology basically like exactly, yeah, you're doing some archaeology stuff and it's sad and hard in that sense, but like I mean the I don't know that this gets into like some rocky territory. I'm like because there are a lot of people actually with like this happened with the ground zero, 9-11.

46:35 They stopped at some point, they called it and they scraped it. There's people still in there. They did right. So it's like and there's people to this. Well, they're not there now they were just like all moved into whatever it was all pushed to, they're moved to the dump. So they were all put to the dump, and so now there's family members who there are certain family members who have been protesting to this day and hoping to find their people, and so my heart goes out to those people for that situation, um, and on an individual level, yes, I'm with them. And then also from a from a viewpoint of like, hey, we have this has to move forward situation. You know, at some point after, after a year, and I don't know how long, the ground zero, uh, um, search efforts went on for, but long enough that nobody was alive at that point.

47:27 It would, it would be remains recovery, right, and so anyway, yeah, so I mean it's. It's like for those who are listening, it really is a lot like the big 2013 floods, like the big Thompson and the floods that also hit Boulder, colorado. I don't think a lot of people realize, and we mentioned it last week, but those things brought mud and sediment down from the mountains and trees that were taller than the houses built in those canyons. Right, just speaking to the sheer magnitude of a flood Right and and I think this one was uh, you know it, you know loss of life obviously different in this situation.

48:10 But and I I'm not sure what like our train so different? But like I'd assume, from the amount of stuff moved there on this, on, like that sediment, to search through piece, it has to be even like wilder. Well, it's like you said it turns into cement. Like what is cement, if not sediment and water and evaporation? You know what I mean. Um, yeah, I, it's one of those things that, um, yeah, I guess it just, it just definitely lands differently. And one thing I really appreciate dale said, you know, like I mean I've never met dale in person I just know he's, you know within our circle and um, you know his, his perspective on like emphasizing it was the everyday joe that showed up and, yeah, they showed up with their guns and they were making sure people were safe and supplies are safe, just like how bad actors showed up at places with their guns and took advantage of the situation, you know.

49:09 I mean it's like it's like the duality of the whole situation is like people were applying what they had and some people apply it for evil, some people apply it for good and like, I think you know, outside of just like you know, second amendment and how that enables us to protect right from, like bad agents, um, which is wholly unique a lot. I don't think a lot of people realize that a lot of people are victims to crime and other natural disasters, far more than americans are, because a lot of other nations don't have that illicit, um, not illicit, uh, what's the word? I'm implicit right to self-defense and to protection of property and protection of others, and so I think that was really cool that he highlighted that.

49:55 You know, it's not like we scripted it or anything, but I think also in the context of, like you know, he's talking about people who are using their tools and applying, like, what they have, whether that's their cars, their, you know, their medical skills, whatever it is to help supplement and support what's going on, um and like, yeah, you know that is, that is America, and it reminds me of a song. Reminds me of a song I've been listening to lately on repeat. I don't think it's the best. No, not my humps Um, but it's certainly not David Bowie's best song, but it's David Bowie's I'm Afraid of Americans song.

50:36 I don't know if I've ever heard this. Oh, you've never heard of. I'm Afraid of Americans. No, I'm excited. Maybe I save it for the outro, right, but this song is like it was, definitely, don don't get me wrong. It's not about americans coming together, right. The song is about david bowie's experience really living in america and realizing america is insanely powerful and it's kind of a commentary on america invading other cultures with, uh, franchises, right, like mcdonald's enters, you know, the middle east or asia, and it's bringing over american culture and incorporating it into those nations and all that.

51:18 But there's a, there's like this is line that I really love. I mean it's more than one line, but, like you know, he's talking about this guy, johnny, who's in America and wanting to be an American like Johnny. Johnny's in America, but he's not from America. Johnny wants a brain, he wants to suck on Coke and he wants to think of a joke. He wants a woman. It's like all these things you know. America apparently appears, but at the end of it he just keeps repeating over and over God is an American. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

52:04 Successful in its population, so faithful must have god on its side. You know what I mean. Like right, it's like what's even the point of fighting a nation like that? And I guess I kind of like you know I'm totally characterizing this song differently than what I think david bode right, yeah, yeah, yeah his. His intention was a critique. Uh-huh, my intention is like I've been listening to that song a lot, just out of joy, don't get me wrong. I critique America every episode. But but, um, I, uh, I do think, like bro, there's nothing more wholesome than people loving one another and coming together to serve and help their community out.

52:46 And like God is in that. God is in that American who is giving up his sleep, his finances. God is in that American who you know she is sacrificing and spending her time, you know providing, you know voluntary care and effort and organization to benefit her community. Like God is an American. He's there in that presence and in those people. And I just think, like it's very hard, I think, to find another nation who has that emphasis of like. Like he said, like you know, regardless of the rumors of the government, it doesn't matter, he didn't even see that much of the government, but what he did see was the everyday american showing up, oh yeah, and like god bless him.

53:28 And like I think that's just like dude, that's it. Like you know what I mean, that's a big deal. That is the difference between America and other nations. And for real. And you know it's like and we have our dark underbelly. We talk about it here Like you said like you said, right, and dark white underbelly great YouTube channel and we talk about the uh. We talk about we're not like pro, like uh, christian nationalism right like, like either. So that's not what. That's not what mick's saying here and what he's saying is like, and I agree with, is this thing that, uh, to be a light on the hill is a special thing sometimes and and what I think is so cool is like there were some people, I'm sure, who were showing up and all they had was a pair of muck boots to put on their muck boots and trudge through it and start using their hands.

54:16 And, like Dale said, he saw a lot of private helicopters. Yeah, that costs a lot of money just to get started and owning it and then the operation of it, fuel Right, and so like that's awesome. I mean like, and people demonize like wealth in a lot of cases, and wealth can be corrupting and love of money will lead to the dark side. It's a fact of the, it's just a fact of if you love it, yeah, but having it's not a bad thing. Having money doesn't lead you to the dark side. Loving it leads the dark side. Having it and not loving it means you get to have a helicopter and fill it up and take people's stuff.

55:02 That's going to save their life. Yeah, and both those people just like the story of the widow's mite, like in the bible, where you have somebody who all they have is a pair of muck boots, that that person's putting it on their muck boots and that's all they have. And also all the all that that other guy has is a helicopter and he's bringing it, you know, and it's just like it's encouraging, it's uh, inspirational and um, you know, there's well, in support of that. That was tim kennedy's latest message you know he said in his latest video it was like nine minutes long, it just came out it said update of, you know, helena situation. He said there are boys out there, you know, young men, old men, with all they got is their you know troweling boat and their boots and they are, day after day, clearly doing more than the 100 PhDs sent down from Washington to supervise and facilitate and discuss infrastructure and support and what to do, what not to do.

56:08 They haven't done anything, they haven't taken any action, whereas the boys who are, you know, pull them up by the bootstraps, them and their families, their wives and kids, are given their time to go out. And he, he, he I mean he mentioned that he's like these are guys who don't have a million dollars, right, these are guys who, like, have the means to just, don't have a million dollars, right, these are guys who like, have the means to just. And you know I'll say this I'm not the biggest tim kennedy fan. I love this video, though, and this message he's putting out of like pure honesty, of seeing americans look after americans right and um, you know, he's like they're going out with what they have and they're bringing back people. And they're not just bringing back people, but they're also bringing back supplies.

56:48 They're bringing back people. And they're not just bringing back people, but they're also bringing back supplies. They're bringing back what people need. Someone says, hey, my house was here in this area. Are you familiar with it? It's got all of my medication that if I don't have I'm going to die. And some good old boy is like well, me and the missus will go and get it. And they go out. They leave at I don't know 1130 pm. When they hear about it, they come back at 4 am, having not slept a wink, spent all night sifting through mud and silt to try to find a box, and then they bring that life-saving medication back to people, whereas the federal government can't even figure out when they're going to be providing a supply of that like supportive medication right I've been sent to form a committee.

57:33 Yeah, like what we got, we gotta do this now. We got the committee. It's called jed yeah, cyrus, their wives, their kids oh yeah, you know, that's what I love it. I love that there's a bunch of like 13 year old boys out there, more capable than anybody's sin yeah, you know just like just running a motor, that is crazy for me to like to, because I also tried to be, like you know, step out of your echo chamber right. So I watched a couple videos that are coming from the government right you know, like they're putting their like best spokesperson from the national guard to talk about stuff. And it was a whole lot of lip service and like like they literally I mean they didn't even have concrete things to say they were doing, they just were like saying like, yeah, the National Guard's there, fema's there, but like they couldn't point to anything, whereas then you have Tim Kennedy, who's like you know what was he?

58:22 He wasn't. Was he a SEAL or was he a Green Beret? He was Green Beret. Yeah, that's what I thought. And you know he's there and he's like they're a whole lot of useless. I mean, the military showed up. He said 10th Mountain showed up. Those guys are probably doing stuff. Yeah, he said 10th Mountain's there and they're doing stuff. Yeah, fema National Guard aren't doing dick Right. You know what I mean. And the shame of that is every 18 to 24-year-old National Guard member who's there, wants to be that 10th and wants to be in the Cajun Navy. They're ready, they're probably. You know, hey, they didn't sign up. They're held up by bureaucracy. Yeah, they didn't sign up to form a committee. They signed up to do that stuff, you know.

59:03 They're being told to stand around. Get their socks wet, go to sleep, wake up. Get their socks wet. And Socks wet, go to sleep, wake up, get their socks wet. Yeah, and they haven't been able to do what they want to do, exactly, exactly, and so poor leadership is definitely, yeah, poor leadership. Super centralized leadership cripples the system, and what Dale was talking about here was he had awesome. He didn't speak to it. But what's going on in this situation is just awesome decentralized command. There's no commander here, just besides the fact that doing what's right, doing what's good, and people are stepping in, knowing here's, we know what to do, Just do it. And so there's people who step in and they're just firing up their john boats, firing up their helicopters, firing up their overlanders.

59:46 I hope some earth roamers from they were manufactured here in our neck of the woods are out there. Earth roamers have you ever seen an earth roamer? hell. No, oh my god, I would have thought an earth roamer was like a flat earther kind of no, no, no, it's, it's a. It's a, it's a truck. Look up earth roamer. Okay, they're out of northern colorado and they are sick as hell. Is this? like the six-axle Audi that I've seen. No, no, just look them up, look them up. Basically they're like overlanding on steroids All overlanders probably hate them only because they can't afford them.

1:00:30 That is something Tim Kennedy did call out. He's like we owe all all those overland guys, all those guys tricking out their four wheel drive cars. We owe them an apology, because those are the dudes who, like the government, is saying you cannot get there, yeah, you do not have the means we need. We need, like all terrain military vehicles to get there. And those guys are like bet yeah, actually, hold on, let me do my best. You're like bet. Those guys are like bet yeah, actually, hold on, let me do my best. Real action, you're like bet. And then they roll up oh, these things are sick. They're like big ass fifth wheels. If you're a part of the tiny, tiny wiener gang also meaning lifted trucks that's the guys who get it done Like listen, that's great. Put a gas can on your car, you can go an extra 100 miles you know, and earth roamers and also out there like uh 650 holy that's what I'm saying, bro, so hold on I thought this was like.

1:01:20 I was like, oh, that's cool, like 80 grand for a fifth wheel and it's 650 000. They are, but they are. I will say this Dean out there. We haven't had him on in a while. Dean's got to come back, but Dean's out there. I was talking about Earth's Warmer. I was like bro, are you kidding me? But here's the deal. They cost as much as a house. What, that's more than my house, but they are. It's basically Typically it's like an F550 frame with it's just lots of times these the Earth Roamer is you customize it out. Part of it is part of the cool thing about Earth Roamer is you typically customize this thing out yourself.

1:02:01 But I mean, like you've got solar water filtration, you've got everything you need on a jacked-up truck and you get where you need to go. Sure, in a big old way, so sure. So yeah, I mean, for that price you should be able to go anywhere. You should be able to take it to the moon. Yeah, but, but you know. So anyways, like getting back to the crux of the conversation, being that I'm just stoked Like same. The same thing happened a couple years back. You know the Cajun Navy man. I love those guys. Yeah, you don't have to sign up, you can just be self-proclaimed. You show up with a john boat, a lifted truck, pull it in there, have a mudless motor.

1:02:44 Do you know what? A mud motor is on a boat. Yeah, I do. Basically. So if I was you listening, picture on the back of a flat John boat, you have a hold on. Make it simpler. Most people don't know what a John boat is. Pat. So if you have a boat with a flat bottom, there you go. It's about 17 feet long. You mean it's not a canoe, not a canoe, and you know, normally on the back of your boat you have just that, the the big motor with the prop that goes straight down about two or three feet into the water. In this case you have, imagine, a giant weed eater on and that giant weed eater is hanging off the back of your boat.

1:03:27 So you have this long like 10 foot pole going back to your prop, prop being the propeller, and so you can push down. It's not a boat with a steering wheel, it's a boat that you operate your back on the back, pushing the motor, you know, left to go right, right to go left type thing, and you're steering the boat and you're twisting your wrist to throttle it. In this case, you also push down and that prop comes up. So you can you can cruise in super shallow waters. The mud boats are super cool in that way. So, anyways, there's guys just cruising around getting done what they need to do in these places, flooded places, um and um.

1:04:07 Yeah, I think that I'm just talking right now because I'm excited, I'm kind of jazzed from the conversation that Dale told us. I'm like I'm excited about it, I mean that was something to be proud of exactly. I mean, I'm proud to be tangently in touch with Dale, I'm proud to know that there's a dude like that we have that we can call up Because it's just, you know. I mean I'm sure a lot of people who volunteer for stuff like this think like, well, no, I'm just a Joe, you know, I'm just a guy. There was a lot of other people down there doing stuff, the helicopter pilots.

1:04:49 They're heroes. You, you know doing this crazy nimble, you know flying to rescue people, yada, yada. No, dude, like, in my eyes dale's a hero because if I was in that situation I'd be relieved to see dale handing me some toilet paper, handing me some water, you know, handed me whatever other supplies I needed to get back to. You know, stay, stability and so like I just I just appreciate those things. Um, yeah, damn, it makes me super proud to be an american bro. I'm not saying in the, you know other countries, I'm sure I know other countries help their own, yeah and we also help them when they need it.

1:05:30 That's what I'm saying, though, like that's the thing is like. What is? Like you know, when you see the disaster I mean, I think we all can recall the absolute, like um unreal disaster of the earthquakes and the tsunamis that hit India the Indians knew those were Americans showing up to aid them additionally with, like other people from, like you know, the UN right, but like they also knew like Americans were there volunteering to be there and be present. I mean, you look at, you know, here's the thing regardless of how you feel about Ukraine war, the predominant number of volunteer fighters for the Ukraine war that are not Ukrainian are Americans.

1:06:18 You know what I mean and I just looked up this stat. I looked up a stat. I said how much foreign aid does America receive? Zero. Well, there's not even a stat, because every article, everything on there, is about how much we give. Yeah, right, and so we don't. We don't receive foreign aid well, I, I know this maybe we will in like a civil war instance. You know what I mean, but meaning like, even like in instances, instances like this, I'm sure there's an individual and there's individuals in other countries who are donating to these causes? I'm not taking away from from charitable, generous people, thankful for those people, definitely, because that's beautiful, but just like, uh, in a sense, where you just go like from, from the standpoint of being proud to be an american, like, just being like, you know, we uh going back to what I was talking about, about, with the, the appalachian mindset of it's, me and mine take care of our own around here.

1:07:19 That goes nationwide too, you know like, and so we don't like and people would make an argument we don't need it it. I understand we don't have time for that podcast, right, but at the same time it makes me proud to just be thinking about one how citizens step up to take care of other people, also as a whole, because one beautiful thing about America while our system is not perfect, the people are the government. That's also another podcast to talk about. Keep going, but in that same sense as a whole, we still do have that same heart behind us and when we see other people in need, whether that be an individual or a whole, we still do have that same heart behind us.

1:08:10 Yeah, and when we see other people in need, whether that be an individual or a whole, nother country we get involved and we, we assist, whether that's whether it ends up being good or bad. We're making effort amen, dude. Well, you know what I think. Uh, I think that's a good cap sign, you know, keeping this completely focused on, you know, the hurricanes and what's going on in the season, as well as, like the you know, heroic actions of fellow Americans and just the generosity that a lot of them have demonstrated. So I don't want to detract from that with anything else. Um, so I think, pat, if you're cool with it, I'm just gonna play david bowie's.

1:08:55 I'm afraid of americans and just let it be. You know, something you hear and listen to for the first time, yeah, yeah, I think that I agree. I'm gonna sign us off and then you play it out, deal brother, because I did want to mention, like Dale said, this is going to be a long rebuild for this community. Yeah, I mean, let's be real, it's decades. Yeah, like there's still places where I see here in Colorado that are decades out from the last forest fire that hit them, still rebuilding. For sure, for sure. And so in that same, in that same thing, he, you know, he gave us the place.

1:09:37 If you want to give, if you want to, you know, make a difference. Look up Excel life dot org. Look up, you know, that's the Excel lifeorg or Excel College, it's TheExcelCollegecom. And also, I think, in this show. I'll post this link in our show notes so you can give. And you're going to be hearing this a week later, so even more political commentary is going to come out, even more. The situation by the time you're hearing this, the situation, you might not have even heard about it for a few more days, because that's how fast our news cycle is. There's a good chance. The situation is worse because of For Florida Hurricane, whatever Milton Right for sure, and so what I'm getting at here is, whenever you're hearing this, this part of America is still in need, and if you were inspired by what you heard, if you're wanting to give um, go to the link in the show notes for Excel um or look up Excel college yourself right now.

1:10:43 Currently, they have a, just like when you go to their page, it's right there Boom, donate, um, this is a. Uh. When you go to their page, it's right there Boom donate. This is a place that I now trust you know via you know our reporter Dale telling us about it, and I think that if you want to make sure that your money is going to the right place, give here, and even if you're hearing about this later on, these people are still going through it and you can still make an impact. Whether this is, you know, a week later, a month later, maybe even like a year or two later, you can still probably connect with these people and make a difference for what's going on with them in their community.

1:11:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know, as we said earlier, but you know, or I guess, prayed earlier. But I just do really encourage everyone if you're a believer, like, lift these people up, be praying for them in their communities. That's a powerful way to work with them. Um, and if you don't believe in prayer, hey, put your wallet where your money is wallet where your mouth is and, if you're a christian, donate some money too. right, but definitely be praying for those communities and especially our friends who are still in Florida and stuff. Keep them in your heart and minds With that until next time John is in America, he'll take Zach the wheel.

1:12:20 No one needs anyone. They don't even just pretend John is in America. I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't. I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't. I'm afraid of Americans. Jumbo's in America.

1:13:14 Johnny wants a brain. Johnny wants to suck on a conch. Johnny wants a woman. Johnny wants to think of a joke. Johnny's in America. I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't. I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid I can't. I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it.

1:13:57 I'm afraid I can't. I'm Johnny. Germans and Americans. Germans and Americans. I'm afraid of Americans.

1:14:38 I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't. I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid I can't. I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't. Yeah, I'm afraid of Americans. I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't help it. I'm afraid I can't. I'm afraid of Americans. God is an American.

1:15:20 God is an American. God is an American. God is an American. God is an American. God is an American. God is an American. God is an American. God is an American. God is an American.

1:16:08 God is an American. God is an American.