The Mick & Pat Show - Death on the Doorstep

0:03 so, uh, so something not not very chill happened last last week after we were done recording it's almost like a sequel if you listen to our last episode yeah, it was the worst kind you know. Essentially all my fears of what it was in the dark underneath the canopy of our front door came true, and it came true in the most horrific cinematic way. You can't tell me that that didn't feel like a movie for a moment there. I had emotions. I had emotions, I had feelings.

0:47 I heard you yell. I think that was you. No, bro, that was you. I heard you. I heard you yell too, I might have yelled, but that might have been you out of body, looking back on yourself yelling Probably. I was outside. I was outside seeing the spider crawl at us and I saw it murdering you, just tearing you apart as it made its way to get me. This is awful, dude. I'm getting emotional right now. My eyes are getting watery. I want you to tell it because you'll. I think here's the thing. There's no way I can tell it and truly give it justice, because I was. It's like one of those things where someone asks you what happened in the car accident and you're just like I don't know man, it kind of blacked out.

1:31 But you ask witnesses of the car accident and they can give way better reports of what happened For sure. That's what I need you to do right now, because last week we talked about how there was a spider encounter on the way out of the office, out of the world headquarters studio, and you had gotten a spider web and spider in your mouth, down your shirt, and there was a little bit of an episode. Well, we didn't, by the way. Welcome to the Make and Pass show. Sorry, welcome to the Make pass show. Sorry, welcome to the making pass show, because this story could take a couple minutes. Um, thanks for joining us all, ken. Um, just want to give a you know, a shout out and plug to those of you who listen every week.

2:16 Appreciate you, um. And if, uh, you listened last week, you are familiar with the horror stories of me walking into the spider web out front in something, walked into something hard, big though it was a big thing. That felt like you know, it felt like, honestly this is the best way I can describe it Pick up, if you're at home right now, or you're going home, listen to this, okay, and do it so that way you understand, just pick up the string to your blinds and close your eyes and kind of dangle it so it hits you in the face like just so, like it gently bonks in your face, you're like, oh, that's a solid piece of plastic.

2:57 Yeah, that's what it felt like, dude, if that's what it felt like I had ran into and the idea of a bug or spider being that dense and big, very unsettling. But we didn't see it, and I think it's the same one. I think it was too, and so was it, he's like. I'll get this bitch next time. Is it more concerning now, having seen it Like is the first experience, now even? Worse Knowing the sheer girth of this spider. Yeah, dude, a hundred percent. Because, like it's one of those things of like you know, as a child, you're like there might be a monster in my closet, Mm-hmm, but you don't know, Mm-hmm, and there's only one way to know for sure is if you go check or someone checks?

3:43 Yeah, but if you check and there is a monster, you're dead. Yeah, but if you have your mom or dad check and there's no monster, then everything's okay right, which I still check behind every shower curtain for a clown. Really. I still like while I'm peeing I do it fast Every shower curtain for a clown, really, if I'm peeing next to the shower curtain. But be serious, not comedic. Is that actually a habitual thing you have to do is make sure there's no one behind the shower curtain? Yeah, and I do it with the speed and action of violence that would scare the clown, because one time no, that's the way to do it, though, because if there is a clown, the one time in your life there will be.

4:24 You'll be ready to dance. You got to get him dude. Because there was a whatever like the 1990s version of it was on yeah, with Tim Curry, which I've never seen. I've still never seen. Oh, really Excellent, it's so good. I bet if I watch it now I'd be like this is so not scary I don't know Tim Curry's really good at it, but not scary enough that I would have to check the bathroom curtain for the rest of my life. But it was on TV. I walked in the room and the scene where it is in the shower or the boy is in the shower, I don't know one way or the other someone's in the shower and the clown is coming after the boy Coming out of the curtain.

5:06 I check it hard, I check it fast. I may, even if I'm midstream, I don't care, I'll make a mess. I got to check, get that curtain back. I respect it. I mean for me that one wasn't it, I think, the one that was really. It was honestly psycho, which is the fear of not something being in the shower behind the curtain something coming in, so you just shower curtainless? Yeah, I just full on shower. That's actually why I kind of like glass showers, just naked in water everywhere. If someone opens the door and I'm in a glass shower, I will immediately defuse that right. They're coming in there, like'm gonna kill this, I'm gonna kill this guy and I just like take my nuts and press against the glass screen.

5:54 They're like, damn, you got me get out of here oh yeah um, no, but like uh, I told I get that the guy not gothica. What was the one with the Korean kids? It's the one where she's showering and then there's a second pair of hands in her hair while she's showering. You don't know what I'm talking about. Oh dude, it was so scary as a kid. It was like Not Gothica, gothica was the one with Hailey Berry, anyways, never mind, but that one also made me scared because I would like I would be showering with my eyes closed. Right, you're soaking, and I'm just like waiting for to feel another pair of hands touch my head.

6:35 That'd be a great move to do to somebody just sneak in the shower. You get to do it once to your wife before she leaves you. Like you know what I mean. Like I think if I did that to Billie Jean she might kill me in my sleep. I might have her let me in so I can get you while you're showering. Just a quick. I shower with Dude. Hey, shout out. You guys can go check this out. We're sponsored by Filster Enigma, the Enigma holster. We're not really, but You're a never nude yeah, I just have the holster always on, even naked bro because you don't need pants for it you don't need pants, you just cinch it around your waist bro on your hips. So, anyways, these spiders, the spider, really, there was a prequel to this, to this spider's journey, I think, because we should give it justice, because, do you remember, three weeks ago, I pointed out on my truck as we were toppers were leaving.

7:28 I was like, look at this cool spider web. And I was like no, man, it's good. And I was like this spider is huge. And you're like no, I'm good. And you're just like did you see the spider. Yeah, oh, I thought you just saw the web and we're like it must be big. It was a big spider. It was about half the size of the spider we finally came to, dear God. You mean in two weeks it doubled its size. Dude, I think it was the same one. Jesus. He's been munching down. Pat, if we didn't kill it it would have grown to the size of the earth in 13 days. It's exponential At that rate we would have needed nuclear weaponry, and so we saw it a few weeks ago and then last week Pass out.

8:12 A few weeks ago, two weeks ago it went into his car like a sane person. Yeah, two weeks ago it got Mick in the mouth, in the face, and then Still don't know if that's what it was. Could have been a nut, an acorn in the web. It could have been. It's about acorn-sized body, which is a large spider. Its ass was the size of an acorn. That's what I'm saying. Put that in perspective, people. If its ass is the size of an acorn. Oh, no kidding. And so, anyways, we come to last week where we've just got done talking about this dang spider. And we come to last week where we've just got done talking about this dang spider, and you, slowly, you're exiting first. You're the point man. I'm at the door and you're opening it.

8:52 I'm checking corners so hard, you fully open. Well, you checked before you opened? You were looking through the glass window and then no. I turned to you and I said hey, man, I think I need you to go first. You did. Yeah, you're like, can you go first? But then this was as you open the door, you say that, and then we're kind of standing shoulder to shoulder at this point and my, my, my truck was backed up to the curb and the spider distance from the door to the truck was probably three to the curb and this spider Distance from the door to the truck was probably three feet. Yeah, probably, yeah, that or a little more. And this spider, she likes my truck.

9:34 She keeps building webs on them. Liked yeah, so spoiler alert. So the web must have been around like the hitch, it was building a web. I thought it went to your rear windshield wiper. It went from the banister or whatever over our door to your rear windshield wiper. There we go. I think it was even lower because of how tall my truck was and it came out of the darkness. It came up out of the darkness. It like it. It came up out of the darkness for those who have seen jaws, you know when the camera's panning in on the guy on the beach and it's literally like it's zooming into his face while also like it's dollying into his face while zooming out.

10:19 So it does that weird perspective, zoom, and, and that's what happened, like I'm looking at this thing and all I see is this tiny silhouette, you know, crawling on its web from the truck, hitch up to our faces At a high rate of speed, high rate of speed and. I see it go from the size of, you know, like the tip of my pinky in perspective, to the size of a of a damn football motherfucker like I heard it going. It was like I could hear it's neil's clacking and I saw pat die in front of me. It was all in a moment I was like it's gonna kill him it's gonna get, it's gonna tear through like tissue paper.

11:01 What happened bet? well, I I you saw what you do when you saw it, I, I think I stood kind of still, I think I did the, because here's what I think I, I think I, I think I did the uh, um, uh, oh, you know, I did the sympathetic flinch. You know like like out of you moved and I moved, but then I kind of I saw and I stopped, but all of a sudden, next thing, first thing I knew was just, it was just oh, and then you were not in front of the door anymore. After you said that and and it's at this point it's up, and it had come up past our faces and we can't find this thing for a brief moment.

11:48 And you're like, you're just saying I think there's a little bit of like just yelling, like oh my God, oh my God, and I saw it. I was like my internal dialogue was was very similar because it was a big old spider and, as you were recovering from the initial instance of it, you're just like you got to kill it, man, you got to kill that thing. And I was like, oh, look at this thing, because at this point I'd located it and it was big. Did you ever come around and look at it? I saw it, point, I'd located it and it was big. Did you ever come around and look at it? I? saw it dead on the ground okay, but I also saw pictures of them.

12:31 You know elsewhere so so. So you saw it come up at your face. The next time you saw it it was dead, but I it. This thing was stopped and it was purchased. It was now in the door frame and it was big, I mean like adult male. Make a, you know, make the okay sign, that pointer finger and thumb finger, that's how big the butt was in there, just about. Yeah, it was a big butted spider. So, and orb weaver, I think, I took my trusty rainbow and it ceased to exist. Rainbow, is that what you call your shoes? Uh, rainbow flip-flop. Oh okay, took my rainbow flip-flop and I whacked it and just has how it's.

13:12 It's always interesting how, to me, any spider that is big and scary. Once you kill it it gets so tiny. This one was hydraulics bro, I know it just, they just get so tiny and and delicate bro, dude, this is the sound it made everybody. This is the sound it made after he smacked it with the chancla and it hit the floor it literally thudded and that made me almost throw up. Dude, I was like that's how big that thing. It crunched and the whole. Like you could have shot it with a nine mil and it probably would have survived the whole, like the whole toe and ball of my like foot on the flip-flop, was covered in junk.

13:52 It was a lot of spider. But the spider will mess with us no more, except for probably all the babies it had yeah, up there, you know, I what you know I was thinking when I walked in today. Dude, I was so unsettled when I was trying to walk in today I was like I gotta do it to get in here. Um, I was like it probably ate that fucking bird. There's a bird's nest up there and I'm like I'm like that's why the bird ain't there. It ate the bird it might bird babies. It might have dude that thing is big enough that it could wrap up a newborn baby bird, it's true, and the uh, it is a orb weaver, which also is the same spider as the beloved charlotte of charlotte's web, and we killed it.

14:39 We killed charlotte, yeah bro, poor wilbur, that was like the most intense sympathetic response I've ever had to. Like flight Like that one was like. I know we'd already said this, it may seem like a repeat, but like that was. I was like I'm going to run, like immediately before I could have another clear thought, it was just out the back door. That's all I heard in my head was out the back door. Out the back door and like I got to the stairs to go up to the second level before I stopped myself and I was like no, like you don't need to run out the back door, that's excessive. But it was that strong of a flight. You know what I mean and we kind of and I don't run from fucking anything like there's. I I have not ever, I've never run from a fight, never run from a big, scary dude.

15:23 You know what I mean. And like I was ready to hightail it out of here bro the, and it had been built up because we had just spent a whole half of a podcast talking about discussing it um, but this is a live news report from mick after after this happened. This is mick live um is this on the ring doorbell? yeah, here we go. We have a rapist in lincoln park. He's climbing in your windows. He's snatching your people up trying to rape him, so y'all need to hide your kids, hide your wife and hide your, because they're raping everybody out here the attacker. Who was that guy I?

16:05 know, I remember him. Yeah, his name was anton dodson which is crazy because I think so many people think that was like a skit from like the dave chappelle show and no one knows, like that was just a real man out there warning people yeah just with a real personality. They raping everybody out of you. Dude, I freaking love that. Anyways, so that happened, spider stuff happened and time to move on. I did get a text message from you know, my buddy, and he's like hey, bro, you're not going to believe the size of the spider in my window. Well, and he lives like one block over from me and I'm like dude, send a picture, because we saw a spider the size of like a dollar coin at this podcast studio.

16:51 And he sends it and I was like that's the same mother fucker it ain't dead it came home. I was like look man, you gotta kill it right now. And then there was one outside that I was actually outside of our house, that Billy Gene was brave enough to hose down and then crush with a stick. It was definitely the same type of spider, just darker, like the brown pattern version of the orb weaver. Now, look guys, I looked it up and I've heard that they're very gentle, passive spiders that don't bite and all that. And I don't give two shits that don't bite and all that, and I don't give two shits. It makes my feet and toes curl so hard it's insane.

17:33 And here's a note about the orb weaver, though in Colorado. Larger individuals, which I would classify this one as an extra larger one, may give a pinch if grabbed and handled, so they could. They might not inject you with venom, but they could uh yeah, no shit, they could pinch on you a little. Yeah, oh, dude, all the chills through my knees and forearms right now, right up the back of my neck anyways, pat, let's, uh, let's move on to a uh topic that's not nearly as big of a deal as a spider but is currently in the zeitgeist of everything right now. We've talked about transphobia and the trans movement and just when the whole Bud Light thing was blown up and the Dylan Mulvaney and just the things that have been insane, you know insane insanity on the side of people being absolute degenerates.

18:35 And you know the term tranny fluid was like I just always thought, I just always think of that. I'm like that's gotta be just like one of the most like derogatory dumbass things to say you know what I mean and like I get it, but like the context of it is like so defeating to the like idea that like you could disagree with their lifestyle in a healthy way. You know what I mean. And then the other thing then, on the other side too, of like just like the absolute insanity of like sterilizing children and transitioning children, right. So we've talked on both sides of this and, um, I think this is like a good example of, you know, people are making, I think, a bigger deal than it is because, well, I don't know if I can say that, I'm just gonna say it, it's women's boxing, um, and so like, uh.

19:33 But all that said, like, I do think that this is like the actual, real conversation of, like, you know, how do we accommodate individuals who are born this way, from birth right and have this, you know, um, intersex, uh, biology, uh, and like, try to accommodate them to. You know, give them the best life possible, because it really is a decision that's got to be made pretty quick right when the baby's born, for sure, and what we're getting into here is the. You know, there is the kind of thing we see pretty common right now, which is, whatever you know, 13 year olds to 23 year olds, deciding at some point, you know, I feel that I am a different, than I was born a man or born a woman.

20:20 You know, and I'm going to transition into that to, I'm going to excuse you, make moves towards that thing, whereas there's also there's a small percentage of population that has to deal with this. They don't get a choice at all from the beginning about getting to deal with it. They're kind of delta hand, where their genetics are, you know, uh, such that they are not fully, you know, a man or fully a woman, and so that they, these individuals, have to the choices typically made for them at birth about kind of which direction they head, and then also, from there, you know, they have, um, yeah, it's just not up to them, and I think you know some people might disagree with, like you know, using the words like a choice or whatever, but uh, it's so much more, uh, these people they were born with, you know, mixed up organs, mixed up genetics, whereas other folks you know kind of are up genetics, whereas other folks you know kind of are really dealing with, uh, something in their in my personal opinion, in their mental health, but and or, like you know, I mean 100 dude, like it is, without a doubt, you know, and like I know.

21:38 I just want to actually clarify because we haven't said her name yet. But but Imani Khalif, algerian boxer, imani Khalif, I say her not just out of respect for pronoun and just choices, and I don't want to be just an asshole to be an asshole, but she was assigned female sex at birth. She was born with undescended testes. She was born with undescended testes. She, her chromosomal makeup is xxy and she has a vagina but no uterus and no fallopian tubes, and so, of course, she doesn't have, you know, um, ovaries because, oh, she has testes.

22:20 But so, technically, on a biological level, we're talking about someone who has, uh, every cell in their body, essentially believes they're a man, and their testicles that, even though they're undescended, they're still up there and they're still producing testosterone. And they're producing testosterone when tested, which amani khalif has been tested, when tested, were producing testosterone at the same rate as any other male, which is why she was actually not allowed to box, and you know other leagues outside of the olympics and other female leagues, I should say because the testosterone was too high for what was acceptable, for essentially being fair in the sport.

23:13 But all that said and this is almost always the case with these intersex kids are almost always assigned female because the vagina is there and the testes aren't descended right. So it's a lot easier medically and, you know, with plastic surgery, to essentially give them a much more comfortable life, um, regular life, and it's a lot easier to do like actual like. This is a case where like, okay, we told you you were a girl. We decided you were gonna be a girl. You're now 11, 12, starting puberty. We are gonna, we are gonna do testosterone suppressants because you've been a girl your whole life growing up and now, if we don't do that, you're gonna start growing a mustache and you're gonna start getting bulky and you're not going to develop breasts like a woman usually would, and so all that said, like there is, and this has like been the case for decades.

24:12 I mean we've been doing this for these kinds of people for a long time. Cause it's not a new thing. And it's also like and in like. More undeveloped countries like these babies present more as a girl you know, just like just like on a glance he'd be like you know nothing between the legs girl. Probably, yeah, exactly, in um, places where there's not nearly as much, um, probably affordable medical care for a condition like this. It's also usually places where, culturally, um, if this person lived as a male, they would be shunned from society because they wouldn't be able to partake in the same male things and, like I know this is going to be.

25:00 I know people aren't going to be happy about this, but most people understand where I'm coming from, but, like, predominantly, like third party, um, predominantly muslim countries, like, excuse me, it's far easier for these, uh, intersex people to be a female and live the life of as a female for a majority of their lives, until they're older and until they can either, like you know, transition to male or move somewhere where they could get better medical care, just because majority of their lives, until they're older and until they can either, like you know, transition to male or move somewhere where they could get better medical care, just because the culture, the male culture, is going to be a little bit more. I mean correct me if I'm wrong, man, you've been to israel, right, you know?

25:41 I mean you've been, you've been in yemen, and stuff like that. Like the male culture is going to know very quickly if you have a penis or not right, yeah, you'd be like unaccepted you know, in that sense, and you know these people are in a hard spot because you know they at the same time like this individual too, like also looks like a girl yeah, I would say, I mean like I've definitely seen girls who look more masculine, for sure. So there's, you know, it's just, it's. Yeah, I would say, I mean like I've definitely seen girls who look more masculine, for sure, mm-hmm. So there's, you know, it's just it's. These are the people who, and like the way we feel about it is kind of like they get to be upset about it and or have to like they get to get loud about it, you know, like because they didn't have that's the hand, they were dealt.

26:22 Now. What's interesting, though, though, is in the realm of sports and or olympics. Exactly what should the protocol be? yeah because should these people be able to, like you know, should they be able to get gender affirming care? I think yes, because they they've, they need to, they need help sorting this thing out and they deserve some sort of life and normalcy in these things. But then, when it comes to sports, this very small percentage. One estimate said that 1.7% of people are born with intersex traits, which I didn't look too much further into that.

27:04 That was debunked. Actually, I was about to say out of Because it with intersex traits, which I didn't look too much further into that because I think that's that was debunked. Actually I was about to say out of, because it's the term traits. I was gonna say the traits would be the thing where it's like they consider. They consider here's a weird one. This was literally on a medical thing I wrote was reading right, it was on a white paper. They literally considered small breast size to be a intersex trait. Right, that was assigned at birth. Right, all babies have small breasts. You know what I mean which. I was like one of those things. I'm just like who wrote this? You know what I mean. Well, this stat also came from the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights. Oh, so made up office.

27:45 Yeah also, and or like okay, this makes sense to talk about this for human rights, but not from a medical perspective, right? Yeah, you mean, it makes sense from a medical perspective. No, I mean, what I'm saying is like it makes sense to you could say something like you know, 1.7% of these people have intersex traits, you know, and just be like okay and like pretty loosely cast that out there from a human rights thing. Like hey, there's people who are kind of this way or that way. This isn't a medical office. This isn't a medical office, it's like that's not a trait, no-transcript.

28:32 Um, their good days kind of just a hard road ahead of them on figuring out who they are and they should be loved and cared for. Um, but then what does that? What's that look like in sports, you know, and the like you said earlier? It's kind of interesting too, and once it's like I was watching a couple of clips of different female boxing bouts and it is anticlimactic. Now, yeah, at the same time, a lot of people I feel like think like female boxing at the same time. A lot of people, I feel like, think female boxing is the same thing as female UFC. Female UFC is rowdy.

29:12 It can be Ronda Rousey. I've seen Ronda Rousey's face and Holly Holm. They're brutal with each other. I wouldn't mess with those ladies for a minute. I think I'd be willing to try to get in the ring for charity or something, but like there's no way, I'm just like gonna walk around thinking I can take on Ronda. No, she would put me in all sorts of compromised positions immediately. People can't see it, but I'm like holding my breath, trying to decide whether or not to talk. Anyway, he's gone, I'm deciding to not talk. And so the you know this has happened before in the past too, a couple times.

29:56 You know where another lady, Kastor Samania. She was in the 2016 Olympics. I think she was a sprinter, or she was a distance runner, middle distance runner. Same thing, where she had the same situation. She was from South Africa and so she had intersex traits. There was another lady when I was even younger I didn't look into who it was. This happens happens with women, this doesn't happen with dudes. No, because you won't be a contender. I just don't think yeah, and also I don't think intersex presents itself, uh, with, but in the same ways, but you but penile, I don't think you can develop a penis and retain ovaries.

30:52 I think, just like we're talking scientific here, we all essentially start off as females in the uterus and as we develop and become babies from, you know, embryos is like one of the last organs to develop is the penis and the ovaries turning into testes. And so, like I don't know, I'm not, you know, I'm not a scientist I'm sure we could find cases of it where it was reported right, but I have never heard of an intersex case, you know, in the public spotlight. That was someone that was a bit a male boy who had ovaries but no testes and no, but like still had a penis.

31:37 So all I said I'm not saying these words to be like jokey hokey or anything, I'm literally trying to be, you know, educational for the condition, which is why I think, yeah, you're right, we wouldn't see too much of this, because if a boy had ovaries he's not going to develop the testosterone to allow him to compete at an Olympic level with other males Right. It'll show itself in men growing man boobies like real man boobies or something like that whatever, so it shows itself in different ways. But, yeah, so it's women who have to typically deal with this, and so, in the olympic realm, you know, should they be allowed to compete? And I don't really know if I have a good answer for it um, my like, my initial gut reaction is just like no, because when you see these people compete against others, it is like a night and day situation Now.

32:34 That being said, I'm sure there's a much more nuanced conversation you have around the sporting part of it, but I mean, look at the most strongest men and women in the world. They're not Olympians. The strongest men and women in the world are on TRT. They are on other additives to help them that are legal in their competing environments Right, but they wouldn't, they would never be allowed in the Olympics because because they're on those enhance enhancers and like their you know, workout routines. Like the closest thing you can see is like looking at the men and women who do shot put or I guess like the, uh, also probably the, the, the women who do rugby are probably the closest to like professional female bodybuilders that we see in the Olympics and so with that, it's one of those things of like.

33:30 We have other people in society who have a chemical advantage it's not natural but a chemical advantage that would never be allowed to compete and those people know and accept that to compete. And those people know and accept that and we're making an exception for someone who, by textbook definition, meets the descriptions and has been raised their whole life as a female, but if you look at the chemistry is like insanely advantaged against the rest of her competitors, right, and I think that is like you got to think of like what. And all this always comes out because some people are like, yeah, man, we should just have like intersex leagues of all sports, like professional intersex leagues of basketball like football wrestling, boxing, ufc especially when it comes to like the full, like trans community.

34:23 Yeah, yeah. And people like, let the strongest, most fittest, you know, dominate and survive, and I'm like that's how we'll have like dead women on the football field, right, you know, like it is just one of those things of like, no matter how much we want to dance around it, like, genetically you can have advantages. And you know, as not political correct as it may sound, like it's been shown time and time again, women have a genetic advantage. Women themselves have a genetic advantage over men when it comes to emergency scenarios or judgment Like, literally, women will be judged less harshly, uh, as men will by society, and it's because women just are more appealing, like they are a more appealing person than almost all men.

35:15 And so, like all that said, like it boils down, I think to, though everything just boils down to like the spirit of the sport, right it's the spirit of the game Just like it's the spirit of anything, just like it's the spirit of anything like and what is the original intention and like? the original intention is like to have, excuse me, the most balanced playing field possible to compare individuals yeah, I think the only like main counter argument would be like one, like if it's quote-unquote god-given genetics, sure, like me and tom brady have quote-unquote different. Yeah, god-given genetics. Like that, like just no matter what, he will be better right. And so then, like is this? We don't know how good he is. Like what if we had like an everyday blue collar?

35:57 olympics. I don't know, you could smoke it. I turned in a screwdriver properly, yeah. But the um uh in this case, like also the other counter-argument would be like these people kind of got dealt a rough hand. Is this the one area in their life where they get to be the best? They are like. You know what I mean. This is like out of the whole thing. These are my genetics. This is what I am I mean. At the same time, it's undeniable that they are in a league of their own smoking other women? Oh yeah. Like rolling them up and smoking them, oh yeah. You know what I mean. So it's one of those things that it's just like what do you like what is more important, the spirit of the game, and like the integrity of it, or like the concept of like everyone inclusion of every yeah the inclusion of everybody who gets the opportunity because, like I think, there's plenty of people who you know, something occurs and they don't get their opportunity at the olympics, even though they've been training their whole life for it.

36:59 Like we don't make an exception for them to then get to go. You know what I mean. And granted, like I'm thinking about, like you know, accidents, or you know, you know Olympian, who all of a sudden finds out they have cancer, can't compete Right, I don't know. Here's where I would err on it. I think Amani Khalifa should be given an opportunity to compete in the sport where regulations allow Right. One, no one's ever going to stop her from recreationally doing it. Two, she's always going to be probably the best of the best.

37:42 Three, apparently it's been reported that she has lost in boxing matches to other women in the past, so there's other women out there in boxing leagues that can beat her. But when we're talking about the Olympics and the, I think the olympics is an insanely high level, um, a very high standard of accountability to the like gosh, I don't know, I can't, I don't want to say cleanliness, but the essentially the purity of the sport and the division of that right, right and so, like when someone who is genetically a male but due to their birth conditions and defects, they have lived life as a female.

38:36 I don't think we need to let them compete against females, I don't think we need to include them. I think we can say like look, the reason you won't be allowed to compete is because you will win, without a doubt, and there's no spirit of sport in that. Like these other women from these other nations, don't stand a chance. Dude like Angela Carini from Italy, tiny 5'6 Italian getting swatted around yeah, dude, just brutal brutal you know what I mean. So it's one of those things. But, like, I think, like you know, amani khalif should be getting a ufc contract, you know right or or some other.

39:19 If she doesn't want to do ufc like, just do like she'd be, she'd be getting a contract for, like, women's boxing right. Um. So, all that said, that's kind of where I'm at with it. I also don't care that much because I think it. I don't think it's as bad as like a male, born a male, raised a male their entire life, transitioning to be the top of the league and female. UFC. Yep, because that screams to me warminess. It's a different situation. Yeah, the Leah Thompson thing just screams to me like I couldn't hack it in my own, so I decided to come in and just take over your house.

39:59 Yep, I don't care what people think about that, that's just the way it is. They couldn't hack it in whatever league they were in previously, so they go and dominate and get the attention in the other one, get the sponsorships in the other one, the scholarships. But hey, you know, players play the game, you can't blame them. If you told me that was the only way I could get a, you know, full ride to college, I certainly would have considered it, certainly would have thought about it. The permanent tuck, not the permanent tuck, but like I think, come on, a lot of those dudes still have their wieners. Oh yeah, no, I know yeah oh yeah, oh yeah.

40:40 so we'll see what, uh, I mean it'll. I mean, this isn't new to the Olympics. It's come up a few times and we'll see where it goes. And you know, overall, I think that it'll kind of just become a thing of the past. And there's been some other impressive people in the Olympics, oh yeah, especially this one dude who just looks like a dad I think he looks like um gary from breaking bad oh, yeah, uh yeah, the actor, uh yusef, uh dickick the catch he's a turkish olympian silver medalist for pistol 22 uh competition shooting and uh.

41:25 He was famously seen with no hearing protection, no specific eye profiency, mirrors and eye blocks. He just had his glasses on hand in his pocket, no weighted vest or out uniform just his polo in his gut. Yeah, dude, and he doesn't. He doesn't even have a gut he's's got the most healthy-looking dad bod. Yeah, but it's not like he's an elite physical appearance. He doesn't look like he's the rock. He looks like he programs things he really does. He looks like a software engineer. I think he is. But the dude's just total main character energy. People don't even know the name of gold medalists for that, like no one knows who the gold medalists were, they just know like he took silver.

42:11 He's awesome, he like I've seen all these memes about Yusuf Decek and like it's like he's like at the computer typing something and like Turkish officials come to him like we need you to come back. He's like I told you I was out. Yeah, one last time, yusuf son of a bitch like he like just goes there hand in the pocket, just half-ass it. Yeah, uh, it gives me. You know what he really gives me? it gives me the incredibles energy of like him telling flash to get second place at the end. Yeah, like number two. Number two is good, son, don't, don't give it away. Yeah, and like that's kind of like the same thing it gives me. We're like you said, people can't know that you are the most world-pronounced assassin.

42:54 Yeah, I'll get second, but like anyways, um, real quick deal. Before I forget, I this did come to me and now I've totally flipped on everything with Imani. I'm a big believer in precedence and there's precedence the fact that it's been allowed and it's continued to be allowed in other areas. So for her as an individual, she should not suffer like a beginner medal's taken away because there's been a precedent set. Yeah, there should not be an exception that she doesn't get to compete, because the precedent has been that these other women have been allowed. In other sports, so that's actually where I lean. I'm a big Supreme Court guy.

43:36 And I like precedents. Anyways, but I want to be Yusuf and I've been slowly trying to get good with my gats to do it and I've been updating Pat week to week and whoever else has been listening as I just eject my magazine. But I've been. It's like Johnny English yeah, no, kidding, feels like it some days, building out the flux man. And the flux is pretty much in its final form for me, until suppressors are no longer regulated by the ATF Boo, abolish the ATF. But just an update for you all what's working, what's not working, things I'm going to have to do.

44:20 So, yeah, the Flux Raider. If you know about it, you know we love it. Sweet, sweet chassis system for the P320. Harrington Arms, double port comp facing upward instead of the side ejecting comps Great Works, totally. Definitely noticed a lot flatter shooting. Recoil definitely feels less snappy. Coil definitely feels less snappy. Uh, especially noticed with sunglasses and a hat that the hollow sun aims sight I have on top wasn't bumping the rim of my glasses or my hat anymore now. Maybe do I have just better control, maybe after shooting you know 500 rounds through it.

45:00 But I've also noticed like it just seems flatter easier follow-up shots. Um, the thumb uh, no thumb, what do they call the? thing pedal. Yeah, the thumb pedal, gas pedal, gas pedal um, it's up here and it really does, I think, help, because if I didn't have it, I don't think I don't know where I'd put my thumb for a good grip now that there's a flashlight. So I think the thumb pedal's great if you're going to have a light, which you should. And it helps with that comp too, that plus that it helps you just keep it down. Yeah, it is, and I think, if I didn't have it, my thumb would just be, I wouldn't be aware of it and I think I'd be burning the shit out of my thumb on the slide.

45:47 Because, let me tell you, the number one problem about the flux is that it's trying to incinerate you. Uh, I gave myself like a good first degree blister burn here yeah, I think that's the second degree there might be. Bro, what is? first and second what's the difference? that's a second right there. You're not a third degree, is you know? It's a bad. That's the second right there I mean it's a giant, nasty, long, caterpillar sized blister on my arm that, uh, it filled up pretty quick and went numb. After pouring cold water on it was taking a shower. I didn't even realize until I started to dry off and it splurted, you know what I mean. It exploded and, uh, now I've just been putting ointment on and all that, but it's like a good inch and a half long, um, and I burnt it on the slide when I was going to, uh, I can't remember what I was looking at.

46:42 I think I was trying to wipe something off of the gun and it just nicked to the corner of the slide and, dude, oh my god, it burnt like a bitch. So one thing to know about the flux you might want to get a shroud for the front. I think I'm going to get a shroud, because that would just prevent the, you know, not being aware of the frame and how hot it's getting. And then Tactical Development makes a shroud for it called the Halo, I believe, and it looks sick, kind of looks like it'll make it look like the Halo pistol. Oh nice Charging handle on the slide plate. It's been awesome, works great.

47:23 Been really liking my surefire. Uh, gosh, what is this one? X300 ta? Uh, super bright. Battery doesn't last long so you don't don't, you know, play around with it too much, but I've been using it for just practicing like room clearing drills and it's crazy bright with really good focus. Holosun Ames I've been just leaving it on the standard map that it came. The Holosun Ames is excellent. You can get the Holosun Ames, by the way, on discount at Primary Arms. You can go through our link. We get a little kickback and you guys get a sight super cheap. It's like $100 cheaper and I like it a lot. Dude, it's got to be probably the crispiest green dot I've seen.

48:05 And there's no parallax because it's a rifle red dot. And it's small in a good way. It's small but it's a wide window. Yeah, it's a big window, but it's profile does not take up a lot of room. I did think the mount was kind of gay, like it just looks like I don's tight, like it narrows down at the base but it's growing on me all right, maybe I'm gay. Um, the uh slide release lever that replaces your standard uh lever for releasing the um brace. Uh, I had the one that I installed that also released your slide on your actual 320 slide and what I didn't really think about was that I'm also usually pushing against the brace, so when you release the slide you collapse the brace.

48:55 You kind of look like an idiot because then you got to collapse the brace all the way, redeploy it and you just kind of look like a doofus. So that I would say is not something to get. I definitely gave it to pat to decide if he wants it or not. Um, sling setup. The sling setup's cool. The sling setup makes me feel like I am a villain and die hard because it provides just enough tension to put the sling. There's two qD points that come standard on the Raider. But essentially, when you have it rigged as a two-point sling, it's essentially a single-point sling until you deploy it.

49:36 Yeah. You know, so you have. And it doesn't hinder the deployment at all. Yeah. It doesn't like slow it down one bit dude. Mm-hmm, it at all. Yeah, doesn't like slow it down one bit, dude, because the uh, it's one one mount is right on the back of the, the gun, but then the, the one that's a little further back, is right on the brace, and so it's they're. They're literally an inch apart from each other. Once you deploy it, though, then they're about a foot apart, so it gives you, you know, once you, once you deploy, you have plenty of room to maneuver the weapon, but with the brace collapsed, you really almost like you can, you could like one hand, push out and have support from your, almost like a single point support, oh yeah.

50:19 It's definitely like especially to like I'm thinking like, with something like this, with how concealed it is, this is a is a for the civilian use. This is a response platform, just like your concealed carry would be. It's just a little, you know, it's a little bit larger and it's probably being carried off body right. But if this is a response platform, one thing if you're responding to an emergency, you know an active shooter or something like that is you're probably going to have to be using your offhand to either give commands to people, grab people, pull them out, do medical, and there's just like having the sling on this really frees up your left hand, like because you don't need your left hand to actuate anything other than maybe a reload, and even then you don't need it.

51:01 It just makes it faster. And so I think like I mean, yeah, you said like having the sling system set up really serves to be that like extra support tension. You can really one hand this puppy and, I think, be pretty accurate with it, especially if you have stock deployed ATFs I mean brace deployed and you're just, you know, one hand in it, zooming in and making sure you have two points of contact on your shoulder and your hand. It's pretty sick. So I did order the limited edition primary arms with the Blue Force gear. They have a limited edition Vicar sling on sale right now, exclusive to primary arms.

51:44 It's called the Chocolate Chip Cookie, camo, and I saw it. At first I was like that's stupid, why would I buy that? And then I looked at it more and I was like I do need a sling for a dedicated sling for the Flux and that looks pretty sick and I get a discount because of our Make a Pet Show link. So I did get that. How could you not, how could you not get? it, Dude. It's cool and I'm really excited to show you because I think you're going to like the camo pattern when it arrives here. All that said, Vertex commuter bag is on the way. I'll be testing that out for carrying deployment and also the Ibex custom Raider rig I just received.

52:27 It's pretty sick, made by Ibex Customs Dedicated Raider rig. It's designed for the Raider. It could be used for other pistol caliber carbines and other mags. But it comes stock, allowing you to carry five Raider mags. You could carry up to five of the 31 rounders. That's a lot of rounds. Yeah, and it comes with, uh, two loops on the end, on like one, on either end, that you can put a stretch like tactical string through and I was set up with like bungee string to hold a tourniquet and then the other one I think I'm gonna have to get a gas grenade, like a smoke grenade, you know what I mean. Just because, just because it looks sick, uh, or I've been just having a deck of cards on it because one.

53:13 It's always fun to shoot a deck of cards like you. Just like, put one card up, you tell someone to shoot it and you feel like you know, um, a cowboy, mr miyagi, oh, yeah, I was thinking like you, feel like the sensei splitting the card. You're helping sideways yeah, I do. I'm like shoot this slide, yeah. Yeah, I don't do that that's too hard for a lot of new people um, but I do put it up and I'm like literally shoot the card, and they're like I can't. I'm like, aim small, me small, and they do it, um, but anyways. All that said, um, I love the ibex custom raider rig. I spoke to the owner of ibex customs and I was like hey, man, guess what, I need a rig by saturday, because I'm doing a big shoot day on saturday.

53:56 He's like, bro, I got you only one. I got made right now, though, is this uh, fde color and I was like I'll take dog. I don't care what color it is, I just need one by then so I can test it out, because I didn't have anything to carry all the mags in. Right and dude, he sent it two days shipping. Nice Sent it out to me real fast, so definitely go check out Ibex. I love it so far. It's really great. Is he like selling? He sells them himself, dude, all right, yeah, and he takes a lot of any feedback you have. Yeah. He's been improving on the design with like all the feedback he's been getting. And it's gone through like two or three different iterations. That's cool and the Flux has gotten so much attention. There's like a sub market.

54:37 Oh yeah, I mean there is a sub market just to Flux accessories and parts and attachments. That moves me on to the last thing I'm using for training, which you guys can all hear. If you're familiar, it's the dry fire mag. So dry fire mag I've been using for my Shadow Systems MR920, and it's just a dummy mag with a little pedal on a very tactile spring system and they make a dry fire mag for the 320. And if you do some modification which I'm going to post a video on how to do it if you do some modification, then you can essentially adapt it for your flux and so it's got that nice tactile clicky reset and it's safe to dry fire without damaging your spring.

55:25 So it's got that nice tactile clicky reset and it's safe to drive fire without damaging your spring. So it's pretty sweet. Um, I love it. I think it's great for training, definitely makes me more accurate, uh, because you get a lot of reps in um also. Last thing trigger. I did a trigger upgrade, uh, from armory something I can'tory, I think it's Armory Guy. Armory Guy, he makes a bunch of 320 parts, but his trigger system is great. Love the reset. I actually increased the tension for the trigger reset to be more tactile-y, like you have a higher feedback, and then I lowered the actual trigger break.

56:07 So, um, but that's the flux update. I'm liking it. I'll be putting videos up soon. I think that's like really honestly, what we should just start doing is doing like short form product review stuff, because we've been doing so many products and development stuff, um, and just letting people how we enjoy or don't enjoy certain things, um, which is kind of what I also have here. Um, just quick update. So pat's been busy and, uh, it's true, you know it's not a bad thing because been making moolah, um been in a good moolah season but we haven't been able to do as many reviews of movies as I like or TV shows, because there's just not enough time for Pat to watch them.

56:54 At the rate, me and Billie Jean do. Billie Jean, you know, working from home it just really allows us to spend a lot of time watching one episode for lunch and then another couple at, you know, dinner evening. You also watching one episode for lunch and then another couple at you know dinner evening. You also have kids. That's what I was. Kids is probably a big one. This is the first year that I really saw. Like I used to crush so much television and like now it was kid three, just no more. Like like I also like I went down you know life. This last week watched a show and I was like we haven't watched TV in, like I don't know when the last time was. It just was like the routine used to be like put the kids down, watch TV, go watch an episode or two, whatever something.

57:36 But it does change the game eventually. But you've got to list you. You've got some brand new stuff, you've got some old ass ass stuff. I like it yeah, yeah, yeah, I do I. It's just whatever billy jean and I have covered this summer, plus whatever I've listened to. That I don't think warrants a dog ear dialogues, but was damn good, uh, book wise. And so, uh, first thing, tv show from, from is that's all it's called. Another four letter tv show, just like uh lost. It's made by a lot of the people who were good writers and producers for lost, um, and it's even got uh, some of the cast from loss. Uh, it's really suspenseful a lot of blood, a lot of violence.

58:19 It's like lost. If they didn't have to make it for network TV, come on after American, yeah. But it's got a lot of good questions, a lot of different elements, very stressful, and it is very mystical and it leaves you wondering the whole time like what the hell is going on. But I don't want to spoil too much, but I will say I think it's better than Lost because, excuse me, it has less content limitations. And I think it's also very similar in that it presents a lot of great questions and dialogue surrounding you know, like, where are we? Are we alive, are we dead?

59:01 Is this a simulation? Who's behind everything? Right, um, the monsters are scary. Uh, it's first season's on amazon prime uh, but it's originally made for mgm plus. If you want to watch more than just the first season, you'll have to get a uh trial for MGM+. Season 3 is about to drop here too. End of August Bears, season 3. Weakest of the Bears seasons dude. Not surprising, billie Jean and I both felt the same way, but so far it was just a ton of you know the wheels spinning in place Slow cooking scenes. Yeah, dude, I mean. I guess it was fast-paced, right, but it was just the same thing over and over again all season with like almost no development.

59:46 Huh, um, and I don't again, I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but like the development that there was, it just wasn't what the characters you cared about yeah and um, something about the acting feels just, uh, less genuine than season one. They're losing the new mojo, I think. I think it. What it is is like in season one the dialogue and the chaos didn't feel fake. It felt like almost like improv and very genuine, and like now it feels like the dialogue's not written and people are having to like kind of fill in while they're talking with expressions and faces that like are just like I don't know what to say right now, so I'm just gonna give you a look and then I'm gonna be like okay, whatever man, you do you boo, boo, right, and it's just like is this the same writers?

1:00:44 All that said, I still think it's good, yeah, but it's such a disappointment and I in like the idea that the bear is going to be season four when I'm like one of the main stands for it should have been one season and done. It hurts like this is like it's oh, it's overstaying its welcome a lot right now. Yeah, honestly, you could watch I bet you could watch season two and the end of season two and watch the beginning of season four and feel like you didn't miss anything. That should speak everything you need to know about my opinion of season three. All right, house of the Dragon.

1:01:26 Season two awesome, great cgi, great hype scenes, medieval drama. Uh, it was a total filler prep season to set up the stage for all the armies and stuff coming together for the season three, which was is just going to be like a whole season. That is just going to be war. It's just going to be dragons eating dragons and blowing fire on people and armies clashing and ships clashing and cool set pieces. People are just going to die. I think it has to be. It's based on one book, right? This is a classic where they've set it all up, perfect, and then they do something weird, true, but then they do something weird, true, true, but if they give people what they want, that's what it'll be.

1:02:07 And they said at the end of this one in the behind the scenes, like we're really setting up the stage for next season, which is just going to be all-out war. All right, tight Nice. There was definitely some wheel spinning, though in this one too Needed definitely some more action. Some things could have been resolved, moved along quicker, and there were some odd deviations from the source book. And if you know, you know what I'm talking about If you read the book, if you ever read the book. There was probably just some scenes where you were like wait, that person just opened up about how they were raped as a child by their father and now they're in the mood for sex. I don't really think that is realistic, um, and so stuff like that.

1:02:48 It was like just eight guys, not a good pickup line yeah, I don't even know it was pickup line. I don't know, I'm just saying I haven't seen it, but that sounds like it sounds like it won't work I'll be honest, like if anyone, if a woman is, guys, if a woman is ever opening up to you about serious trauma in her life and you try to kiss her, you're going to be seen as a freaking weirdo. Don't do that. Just listen to her and then move on Sopranos we finished the Sopranos. Totally worth a watch If you like that kind of you know duality of like small slice of life work slice of life. I'm just, you know, gotta go, gotta wake up do my thing in the morning and then come home and the kids are crying and ungrateful and the wife is spending all the money Like slice of life stuff.

1:03:37 Very Breaking Bad vibes, right, yeah, but it was the precursor to Breaking bad and all these other ones that we have. Um, it has a ton of nudity though. So if you're like I'm not really big on nudity, well, don't watch the sopranos. They literally use they own a strip club. I was gonna say they use scenes in the strip club with boobies as like transition scenes yeah, yeah, like for no good reason, yeah, it's just yeah it, um, and there's also a lot of dark themes. So if, like, you're not someone who enjoys dark themes about betrayal and you know family trauma, stuff like that, then don't watch it, uh, but I thought it was really good. Great for a one-time watch at least, for sure. Uh, billy g and I loved it.

1:04:17 Um, books now recursion by Blake Crouch, who's also the author behind dark matter, which is now a series on Apple TV. Um, I was like, all right, I'll check out this one Cause it sounds cool. Um, really excellent time bending drama novel. It's a one and done. It's not part of any series, it's get one book. It's nine hours, follows pretty much two people and just how insane time traveling can be. And it wraps itself up like, very honestly, I will say and both the narrators were excellent I really wondered a lot, I was very sad a lot, wondered a lot, I was very sad a lot and I've also felt very nostalgic because they really encapsulated what it feels like to like being a memory of like a time in your life that you're like it's almost real when you're thinking about it, the smells and stuff, um, also, uh, very new time traveling concepts, not your classic grandfather's paradox stuff.

1:05:20 Um, I've actually never seen anything movie, tv show, book do time traveling the way they did it, with the problems that come from time traveling, as well as the plans they try to make to solve the problems. All of it was very new, very fresh. Only complaint is by the end of the book, you're probably, you're, you're gonna, there's gonna be a moment where you're like, I know, I get it the ripple effect. Yes, you said it five times in the last like 10 minutes. Right, because it's just kind of like it starts building on itself and the kind of with that building. It's a little repetitive but it's still very good. Um, torment by Jeremy Robinson I know, I mentioned it, I think, last week in passing, but it is dante's inferno meets like the road, nuclear apocalypse kind of stuff.

1:06:09 Um and uh, I mean it is, I think, the only book in the last year that, like I was listening to the narrator and I had, you know, heart pounding dread of like, oh my God, oh my God, what is going to happen? Oh my, I don't know. I literally need to listen. I need to like stay awake so I can hear how this resolves. Very suspenseful, really good religious horror, and I don't want to go any more deep than that because I don't want to spoil nothing but really good religious horror. Um, mind Bullet, also by Jeremy Robinson, just shows that this guy can write a lot of different stuff.

1:06:50 Mind Bullet is easily the best, uh like action novel, which feels like an oxymoron because, like, how can an novel be actiony like I've? You know, I've read sci-fi drama, space drama novels that are kind of like, you know, star Wars or like other mystery action movies, you know, but this is literally just non stop. Chapter to chapter is just one action set piece to another of very iconic bad guys getting killed by very funny and creative assassins, and like it's a kind of like if Keanu Reeves was just like, uh, not just necessarily playing John wick, but like John wick and Tony Stark combined into one person.

1:07:40 Yeah, uh, very entertaining, really great book. Also really short, but part of a bigger torment in mind. Below they're apparently wrapped up in some kind of big book universe. So, uh, but check those out. Everything. Those are all the things that have been pretty good, other than the bear, still good, I guess. But, um, those are my updates for anyone who's looking for stuff to watch or read. They're really good TV shows and books. Hopefully, pat, you get to check some out. Hopefully someone interests you Need to check them out, for sure. But here we are at the end of the road here for this episode.

1:08:21 Our last little point here I want to try to just. You know, please, the youtube gods so if anyone's been, you know, listening we've talked about before our actual latest episode got denied any ability to be advertised or, uh, promoted. Um, because we mentioned orange guy, sleepy guy and smiley gal, and you know orange guy, he's running for president. Because we mentioned Orange Guy, sleepy Guy and Smiley Gal, and you know Orange Guy, he's running for president again. He was president but then lost to Sleepy Guy and Smiley Gal. Smiley Gal has now usurped Sleepy Guy and is now running for president, because Sleepy Guy is deemed too sleepy. And if you don't know who we're talking about, I don't know how to make it any more obvious and honestly, just continue to not pay attention to the world outside.

1:09:08 You just live your life. But, um, just a little bit of updates on all these people because of course you know it's the presidential cycle and, uh, it's just pure entertainment and hysteria. I think, right now, with like modern media and modern social media especially, it's just like, I think, most of us I'm really thinking most people. I have a lot of faith that the majority of people are seen through the illusion now, that the majority of people are seeing through the illusion now and they're like this is all just fabricated and made up for whoever's got the deepest pockets right, whoever the flavor of the day is, is who we're supposed to like, who we're supposed to eventually vote for, and I think that nothing encapsulates this more than what everyone's terming the gaslighting of America by the media.

1:10:03 For Smiley Gal, yeah, like we've all been told for years, it doesn't matter if you're Democrat, it doesn't matter if you're Republican, liberal, conservative, independent libertarian. All of us have unanimously agreed for years Smiley Gal sucks, she's irrelevant, she's not a leader, easily the worst vice president for millennials since they've been alive that they can remember. I know a lot of gen xers and boomers who are like yep, that easily the worst I've seen, most incapable, it's hard to listen to, well, and it's like I mean, I don't even like I don't even. I don't have anything against the chick other than like I mean, here's the thing.

1:10:44 I guess I will say this she's very fake and I'm very against her record of you know what she's ruled on, what she's pushed in her political positions, right. But that said, like it's not, like she's hillary clinton and you know was responsible for the death of our soldiers, right, you know, like I don't have something like that vehement, but it is genuinely like. There's no way, dude, like can you see smiley gal talking to putin talking down kim jong-un? I mean no, no, there's no way, absolutely not. Smiley Gal is not going to be the one who mediates a ceasefire between Zelensky and Pooit.

1:11:27 There's no way, dude, they would never take her seriously. So, all that said, the media has been gaslighting, like you know, for the longest time. she was referenced as being like the first Indian vice vice president the first indian person to be you know that close to being president indian, and she ran on this whole thing that she's indian and she I remember they did like all these youtube shows and netflix interviews of like other indian celebrities interviewing her and how she's indian and like I always I guess even then knew, like I had seen her background, that she was half black but she was running on the Indian horse and now she's running on the black horse and a lot of people make comments of like well, now it's convenient for you to be, you know, black when you want the black vote right.

1:12:16 And some people are upset about that. Some people are not in their heads in agreement. The black community is very divided about it. A lot of you can see a lot of interviews. Cnn just had one recently where they were interviewing a town hall and all the black people were like she's not black, like it's kind of one of those things where it's just like the media is like oh wait, this is kind of backfiring, um, because they're that now, that's like the horse she's riding on. Also, this whole idea of her not having anything to do with the US border is crazy. It really feels to me like people don't remember. Maybe people don't man, but I guess maybe I just have a different memory.

1:12:57 Maybe we're in the freaking multiverse of what's that called the Bernstein-Bears effect thing, mandela effect, mandela effect yeah, the universe has collided and only half of us remember this, but her and Biden ran in 2020 saying that they were literally in ads encouraging asylum seekers to flood the US encouraging asylum seekers to flood the US. And then, after she became vice president and they won the election, she went. You know, she was put in, she was given this role. This is an AP article here, written in 2021, talking about how Biden appointed Harris for a border challenge.

1:13:38 And this is, you know, article written in 2021, about what she's going to be appointed and responsible for. And she literally I remember this because it was memed so hard she went on tv and gave a message to all of the illegal immigrants and migrants and asylum seekers coming to the us and she looked at him dead in the eyes and she said do not come. Yeah, do not come and I cannot forget that, bro. The way she just shakes her head at them, it's like do not come, and I can't, you know, we all know how that was memed to hell and back and it was hilarious, but it's as if people just forgot that and like that was like what she was being overseen for, um overseen and as if that did anything.

1:14:22 Yeah like, like, it's like and that's it. That was your whole job. Like he wanted you to handle the border, he said two sentences and that was it well, and here's the biggest thing, it was like la times can't even really defend it. La times is saying that she was put in charge to oversee immigration problems and then they list out all these things and they're like but you know, as all problems do, the immigration problem shifted and they couldn't deal with it. I'm like, bro, if I swear, if someone came to me and reported that, like that is a reason a big project didn't get done at my work, I would fire them or you know what I mean you'd get fired. If that was my excuse, yeah, I'd get fired if you said that, if that was my excuse, yeah, I'd get fired.

1:15:03 The problem shifted. Honestly, we were working on it, but it shifted. What but Hoover Institution, which? The Hoover Institution is a research institution that is based on the Stanford campus. It's been around for a very long time. They do a lot of fact checkingchecking, a lot of research. They're not a journalist, they're not a political organization, they're just a research institution. And they found that most of the statements around Smiley Gal's role at the US-Mexico border were, at best, attempting to downplay and, at worst, just outright deny and distance her from the failure that it was.

1:15:44 And they just went through all these facts like look, it doesn't matter what you've, your views are, here are the facts like and we're not about being political here, we're just about the research. What? What is the truth? She was in charge of a task force to identify reasons for illegal immigration and secure the border. Her and Sleepy Guy, like I said, both ran on open borders message telling people to come and flood the US that they would be welcomed under their presidency and administration. They backtracked on that and, additionally, they found that Smiley Gal was put in charge. Part of what she was in charge for and what they're framing it as right now is securing the private sector's assets at the border.

1:16:30 Do you know what that is? It was land. It was land and businesses at the border. And so it's just like okay, I'm not securing the border, just securing the land at the border. Okay, I'm not securing the border, just securing the land at the border. And they also found that the study that Smiley Girl was put in charge of was pretty much absolutely devoid of any statistics, factual evidence or credentials to what they concluded about the border and its causes. There was literally like and this is something we could all download and read, like this is not a secret, you can look this up and know it. There's no statistics, no research that was done to provide any like backing to like the claims she made in her report that she presented about the border.

1:17:16 It was just like sexual violence, drugs and crime and persecution are why people are leaving their countries and coming to the US. Also, we pay 200% more than they make there in a week, in a day. That's our conclusion here. And people are like no shit, okay, so anyways, we all know nothing happened. But now the media is just essentially gaslighting all of us saying, no, no, smiley Gal was never in charge of border stuff. That's total like, just you know bad framing of what her responsibilities were, and I'm just like? Because also, what are the responsibilities of the vice president?

1:17:56 Nobody knows. Chill. Their responsibility is to, at election time, polish the rims and smoke blunts. Their job is to swing a vote. True, that's what it is. It's either a battleground state or a certain demographic. Yeah, and you know all this is all is said. You know it is hard because this local Channel 13 news station was called WVTM Channel 13 News. They wrote an article that was really good about just like outlining like why do people like, why does the media feel like they can gaslight the general public and the public's opinion will just like roll over because it's not working, like hoover institution and this like local media news channel, just to their credit, because they had a really good article doing everything, like going over everything.

1:18:53 Um, they're just pretty much like so this isn't working. Why are the? Why is the media doubling down on it like big media outlets? Because it's probably going to have the opposite effect where, like your voters who are in the middle, your voters who are curious about what smiley gal was going to do with the border or what happened, are now like, oh, you're just outright denying it and trying to sweep it. Okay, well, now that makes me not trust you. Yeah, and so they're. You know these are both independent orgs, right, that are just trying to like essentially be like this doesn't look good. It's probably not going to work in their favor. They should probably just outright confront it and try to provide a good explanation on how it won't happen again. Like all things, don't lie to your boss or your stakeholders on why you dropped the ball.

1:19:35 Own it and describe to them the solution and how you're going to enact it. Sleepy guy, though. Sleep, though. Sleepy guy, where's he been? He looks taller. Um, yahoo says no way, jose. Uh, this was my favorite part. I was reading the yahoo uh answers article on this. It wasn't just like a form yahoo answers, it was like a written by you know people who are the Fact checkers that, yeah, who? Here's the thing. Let me just come out and say I don't, I'm not on the train, that I 100% believe this guy is a double. For sleepy guy the full conspiracy, yeah, I believe there's A lot of things Like. It could be Camerangles, it could be Different shoes.

1:20:18 He could be totally in lifts to make himself look healthier, taller stature right. Lose a lot of weight after being sick. You look a little taller yeah he is six inches taller than his wife. Yeah. So and she's often in heels around him and all that and everyone's like talking about how she's in these tall heels and he's just still towering over her. All I said the best thing is like Yahoo answers. Was it like guys? If we examine these reference of articles and other images to get a picture of how tall he is and his difference in height, and compare it to the camera angle here and we use image enhancement, we can figure out that he's not any taller. They're just like this I'm sorry, dude, I'm trying not to laugh at the mic. They're just like people don't get taller after being sick with covid and that was their denial.

1:21:03 I'm like you know, that's not what we're talking about right, exactly. We're talking about it being dead and this is a body double. Yeah, who's like? No, no, no. Look, we know, with the way they say they're like, we know, without a fact, that there is no medical evidence that you get taller after being sick with COVID and everyone's like exactly that joke went over your head, dude. That's the point. How did he get taller? Part of me believes to some of these things make the most erroneous reason why it's not true. So that way, later on, if it is true, they can be like well, our reason still stands. You don't get taller after COVID, yeah. Yeah. Was it a double yes, but it wasn't because he had COVID and so like. And then PolitiFact also was like no, it's camera angles.

1:21:47 They did a little bit better effort and they showed like photographs of different angles and all that. And, like I said, I also don't care. I guess I'd be sad if Sleepy Guy's dead, because that would suck for him to just die while being a slave to the institution that puppets him. Yeah, but uh, hustle man, maybe the man just deserves peace, you know, just deserves rest. Here's the biggest thing, though I cannot imagine being jill if sleepy guy's dead and just having to be like listen, ma'am, we need you to just freaking, hang in there a little bit what you need to think about fdr and how he was a vegetable and his wife just kept on going for the nation. That'd be tough, that would be hard to put on, that act yeah, you have to put it on for four years.

1:22:33 Um, it's true, they're kind of doing her thing yeah, she also seems so much healthier than him. You know what I mean like in such better health and faculty than him. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Um, I don't know any thoughts before I go on to orange guy. No, I think that you know for this old smiley gal. It's surprising to watch how many people are just like all right, who's the new person? Yeah, this is the person, okay I'm in. It's not a sleepy guy anymore yeah, who is it? yeah, and they're just like well, all right, I don't want the orange guy to win. Yeah, so I'm in, I'm a white man for smiley gal. Yeah, mdm dude, it is funny, I don't care what people say.

1:23:17 Like more power to you white guys. For smiley gal dude also. Oh my gosh, I would have eaten my gun if I was stuck like imagine you were like in a legitimate room with all the white women for smiley gal. That was rough watching that. That was rougher than the white men for smiley gal. The white women for smiley gal was like okay there. So all of them are karens. All of them are karens dancing at home in front of their zoom cameras and have no jobs. Or they do have their jobs and they're they're literally not working, so they could be on this zoom call and donate either the money they are stealing from work or the money they are taking from their significant others.

1:24:00 Yeah, I was just like. It was the most like. I don't know, it was the most like I don't know. It was the scariest version of like. Don't get me wrong, I tell my wife she's a boss babe all the time. But there's a difference between you know your wife being a capable boss babe and then, like the Karen boss babes that you know, think they rule the world and it's all owned to them. And that's all that Zoom calls seem to be. I watched like 15 minutes of it, man, and I was like this is, this is insanity. This is worse than the Taylor Swift movie concerts. I'd rather go back to those and be surrounded by, like all the people dancing in circles having, you know, pagan sacrifices.

1:24:41 That'd be the karen white women for sleepy, uh, smiley gal, oh yeah, no kidding, because I mean I've honestly never heard her say really a coherent or heartfelt sentence and I just and I've seen zero leadership ability. I mean makes she knows how to build roads. She makes Sleepy Guy look elite. You're right, it's in his own right, he is, but like he was or was. But just, oh my gosh, yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I also am just shocked that everyone, no one, everyone just looks the other way Like there's been no counter argument.

1:25:27 The lack of democratic process. Well, that, yeah, that's a big one the lack of not even democratic yeah, democratic quote. But, like you know, vote yeah. But I think the biggest thing is like Smiley Gal literally kept people in prison, thousands of people in prison past their excuse me parolee date in order to continue to have cheap labor to build roads in california. And I'm just like, how is no one like actually going to talk about? this. What was the melanin level of the majority of those individuals? no, that's the thing, it was 1500 of them, exactly 1500 black men incarcerated for marijuana charges that weren't felony level marijuana charges and now to be pandering to that vote yeah, which is, I think, is why a lot that was a big thing that I saw with a lot of of, you know, the black voters that were being interviewed.

1:26:18 They were like dude, she, she kept people locked up for slave labor. You know she's a hustler. Um, all right, all that said, orange guy, orange guy, orange guys, orange guys out here doing some whack stuff. One orange guy did that whole live stream where he was golfing with that pro golfer, which was, I'm gonna say, it's pretty bitching, it's pretty badass. Like I don't even, I don't even think they talked politics one second that whole time I was just like. I don't even like golf. This is sick. You can try to not like it, but it's just, it's hard, dude, it's just, oh man, um, he did say my favorite thing from that, though, was oh, the golf. Thing the golf thing was uh, there was this part where he says like oh, he has an ipad hooked up to his speakers and his custom golf cart.

1:27:04 Yeah, um, which made people so cringe. But it also beats like listen, that's the american dream, right there, the fact that he's 80 something and knows how to. At least I think he just turned 80, but he knows how to plug an ipad in and get music working that's a big deal. Oh yeah, and he's like. He's like, like I have the best playlists, the greatest playlists, talking in his cadence. You're too young for this, you'd never know this song. And so he played Frank Sinatra. But people took that and started memeing it. Almost the video was this is way too old for you, and then they would just put With arms wide open. Put on a creed or like somebody yeah, exactly right, nickel back, or whatever, yeah, and it was great and you know it's.

1:27:51 I don't know it's like am I just, am I just unchangeable my proclivities, just to be like I watch that and I see that and I'm like, okay, like that's not pandering, that's just two guys having fun, and it's like, wait a second, am I being pandered too? Oh my god, maybe just like how there's a with the smiley gal, there's all. Then all these like facetime calls, like girl, you know, like, yes, like you know, we gotta, we gotta stop that guy, he, he's going to take away your you know your food stamps, like basically, like how she's talking, I mean it's like there's also been a pandering like like wait a second, it's worth evaluating. Like is the golf video just me being pandered to?

1:28:34 I think it definitely is. I mean, here's the thing. I've known that, uh, I almost said his name. I've known that orange guy has always pandered to me Like he always has. He's your target market, I'm his target, you're his target market, like he's always pandered to the gun owners. Yeah, walking out stage with that, like I think it was a .357 Henry repeater when he first ran. I didn't see that Walk out on stage with the Bible. He's like this is my Bible, Kissing it, I love. Jesus. I read two Corinthians every day, two Corinthians. Fourteen, my favorite verse, but like all I said, like I know it's a pander, it's a pandering and it doesn't work on me Like I've never voted.

1:29:21 I voted for orange guy twice now. The first time was eyes closed. I know I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton, so I'll just vote for whoever else that the pencil lands on. They're not an orange guy. Second time, very deliberate, like I'm voting for orange guy over sleepy guy. Um, but I didn't vote for him because I thought he was pro gun. I didn't vote for him because I thought he was a Christian. I just voted for him because I thought it was going to be the best choice for the economy and the nation as a whole. Um, so I'll, uh. That said, he did this wacky ass thing that I think now I understand. I see through the lens of it and I'm not trying to gaslight like we talked about Smiley Gal, but he literally said you know, christians, get out and vote, vote this one time and you won't ever have to vote again.

1:30:10 I'm paraphrasing here, but this is very close to what he said, that's how it's been reported. Yeah, Well, you watch the video, right and it's. He says it'll be fixed after the next four years. We'll fix it and you won't have to vote again. And everyone's like, like, imagine, like the icon, the thumbnail of everyone, like soy jack pointing yeah, what's going on? or shocked yeah, emoji face. I also picture the uh sand people with the rifle over their head yeah, um. But uh, everyone's snapping like, oh yeah, you said the Democrats are trying to rig the thing. And then here's this guy saying he's going to fix it. And I'm like, yeah, you know, that would be bad. And if he tried to do that and stay past his term, I think there'd be a lot of people who voted for him who'd be like, well, wool's been pulled over my eyes, folks, I guess we're walking down to DC.

1:31:02 You know what I mean? That's the wool's been pulled over my eyes, folks, I guess we're walking down to dc. You know exactly it. Uh, that's. The difference, though, is like I don't think the main demographic that votes for orange guy roll will roll over if orange guy breaks. Try to become a dictator yeah, I think that demographic will be like oh shit, you pink haired people, y'all were right here. Take this mose in the gun, I'll teach you how to use it and we'll walk on down there together, you know what I mean. Like that's how I'd be. You know, I'm like I'll eat crow the whole way. I'll teach you how to make sure your buckles are tight to not have hot spots on your armor. You know all that said, what I truly believe Orange Guy was saying here was that and it was bad phrasing, bad timing I do believe he was saying that he will fix the system like he will fix what's broken fix the political corruption Same thing as drain the swamp phrase, exactly.

1:31:59 I think he was alluding to like if you vote this one time, we'll fix it in our four, in these next four years, that the system will be essentially clean, cleansed. You won't need to vote again because it will be a democratic process or, you know, a republic process, and we won't need you to come out and partake anymore, right, because we'll have rebalanced everything the way it should be. Um, which I get, the intention behind that and the ideas and like. That's the same thing with. Like, I mean, that's the same thing with going to like the, the muslim vote or the black vote or the immigrant vote. Like black vote, immigrant vote, christian vote and muslim votes are like and I'm talking like the true Christian, true Muslim those are always the smallest demographics.

1:32:46 Um, the. The highest demographic turnout is people who are registered as political parties and, um, that's why they campaign so hard for the black vote, even though the black vote or the immigrant vote may end up only being like two to three percent of the total vote. Uh, when everything's said and done and counted up, that two to three percent is what sways, you know, counties, and counties are swaying states and electorates, right? Um? And then the christian and muslim vote. Same thing. Right, jews, historically, uh, turn out and vote. They actually turn out and vote pretty like consistently historically, other than, like you know, you're hasidic, you know more traditional jews, but, um, anyways, that said, I think that's what he was saying.

1:33:32 Now, if it's not what he's saying, well, I'll tell you what, brother, right, right, we'll fix it. Yeah, give it four years exactly. And like the uh, if anything, it's at least an empty promise for politics to all get fixed up. Yeah, but but the um? but I don't think he's talking about like maintaining power I just think he knows that'd be a shot in the foot also pretty badass. You should watch this. Everyone should watch this. I'm talking to the older audit of audience. If you're out there and you were born before 1960, no scratch that you were born before 1990. You need to go out there on YouTube and type this in. I almost said the word.

1:34:14 I don't want to get canceled for our ad revenue. Look up the name of the orange guy and then the letters X Q C and Aiden Ross. Now you're asking why am I doing this? X Q C and Aiden Ross are famous Gen Z I guess they might be millennials, but their primary audience is Gen Z and Gen Alpha and they're famous twitch streamers and everyone watches them play video games and all these kids are like, oh, excuse me. And they like take their mom's credit card and they donate money on the twitch stream to ask them questions, right, um, and these guys have huge audiences.

1:34:58 They haven't been canceled yet for being pedophiles, like so many twitch streamers come out to be right and other stuff. Um, but they have very dedicated fan bases that are very young people who are just now turning the age to vote or maybe interested in voting. And they had trump on and trump was just like, oh damn, I said it. Oh well, this probably just laid in the like, youtube won't catch it. Orange guy said uh, he was just a human being, like, he just answered very human questions. He answered questions live from the chat and he just was like really chill and he's just sitting in a chair with like a crowd of like 10 people, 15 people behind him and then aiden ross right next to him, yeah, and like the camera is clearly just a camera on top of a computer and it's just like the most down-to-earth, relaxing and it was insane, it was weird.

1:35:55 And all these people who are like not republicans, they are not the demographic you think that would be liking Trump. They're all like doing their reaction videos on Tik TOK and stuff like that and they're like bro, humanized him, made him a human, that's. I never seen Trump that way and after hearing him talk, he's a human and I can see, like I can see why people who have heard him in person get swept up in it. And it was, it was so weird, bro. I watched like parts of it and I was like that is definitely the most humanized I've ever seen this guy like politician, wise, um. So, lastly, there's conspiracy about him never being shot because his ears healed up so nice, like man's worth billions of dollars.

1:36:38 Like, like you mentioned earlier, off stream, like probably got plastic surgery, um they're gonna fix them up nice yeah, I mean also, it's an ear. Ask any girl who gets her ears pierced how long it takes that hole to heal up before it's not noticeable anymore. It can it heals up quick and a crusty old man has some got some texturing, you know you got some, you know like you got some other yeah, like it, it blends in yeah yeah. So all that said um, that's the latest news of the orange guy, sleepy guy, smiley gal, um, nothing crazy. You know what I mean. But like I don't know people being fools and acting up and they say crazy stuff all the time.

1:37:21 I guess I just try to put a dose of sanity in it all to try to like level it out. The people who feel insane, I try to help them not feel insane. And the media trying to make us feel insane. I try to make sure that, to call it out right, sure, I don't know, man, any kind of final things about those folks that you were thinking. No, man, any kind of final things about those folks that you were thinking. No, yeah, I think a lot of people feel the same way that they have the last couple election cycles, which is kind of like in some ways, the worst choice. Just have to make the lesser of two evils here, or people are just really, and that's if you're a considerate individual, you're like I just kind of gotta like thinking with your brain right, but then lots, of, lots of other people just swept up in the if you're a red flag holder waiver, if you're a blue flag waiver, you know.

1:38:12 And then like we didn't even talk about scratchy throat guy, you know well, and like I was gonna say I think I still might vote for him. Like I'm still very much like on the fence, I'm still thinking like I'll probably vote for him, because my main thing that I've been poking on the forums on the internets is asking like, hey, internets, why would you vote for smiley gal over scratchy throat guy? And I say, uh, if, if all things considered equal and he was on the ballot, why wouldn't you vote for him? Like what policies would you not? Do you not? Like that you want to vote for? And like no one has had a good answer and everything I've read online and stuff, and like the response to my questions online on reddit and stuff.

1:38:55 Everyone's pretty much just been like yeah, no, I would. But like it just doesn't matter because you won't have the vote voter base behind. I'm like that's why every single person's, that's what they've said, everyone and so I'm like I think I'm gonna do it because, if someone has, because then I started asking the same question to you know the conservative outlets and like like hey, why would you vote for you know orange guy, why would you vote for orange guy over scratchy throat dude? And they actually had better reasons, because I think well, better reasons for their political beliefs. Right, because I think scratchy throat guy might be a little too far left for a lot of the conservatives, whereas they prefer like more outright conservative policies that like orange guy's running on.

1:39:38 And so with that I think like there's more I can understand the reasoning there more. But like you look at scratchy throw guys policies, like they're pretty much all in line and like the best version of a lot of the liberal policies. And I can, like I agree with his take on a lot of things. Like especially when it comes to gun ownership, he's like we, you know, making it harder to buy a gun is not going to do anything. Like that's not how we thwart gun violence. My, I am not going to take away the rights of gun owners. Like I'm going to enhance the benefit, like the opportunities for treatment for mentally ill. Um, and I'm like dope, that's exactly where I lie on that.

1:40:20 So, like you got my vote, um, because the rest of his stuff, I'm like I dope, that's exactly where I lie on that. So, like you got my vote Because the rest of his stuff, I'm like I'm not really worried about it. Yeah, you know what I mean. I do like the idea of him making it harder for corporations to buy homes. That sounds good to me. I do like the idea that he's going to make it harder for unvetted people to be teachers. Oh yeah, that was a really cool one. I also like cause I'm not even a like big old, uh, I'm not a hostile environmentalist. I do like his policy on the environment and his plans for preserving the woods and mountains. I enjoy, Um, so I still think I might vote for Scratchy Guy.

1:41:03 I gotta say, the orange guy taking the bullet was badass as hell. It put me on the fence there and my blood pumped. Now I'll say this like if I, out of fear, I vote for the orange guy because I don't want. And you're just as bad as him. I know, because I don't want the smiley gal to be in there. I cannot see that as being my commander in chief, the scratchy throat guy. It's a chance for us to kind of shake up the old two party system. Which we need to desperately. Something's got to get shaken up. So We'll see. We're Like 120 days out.

1:41:44 I mean from the new pres. Yeah, We'll see. We're like 120 days out. I mean from the new Prez. Yeah, yeah, I think less, just about that actually. Somewhere in there. We're less than you know. We're less than 100 days from Election Day. Yeah. So Well, Pat, you got anything you want to sign us off with well, pat, you got anything you want to send us off with? you know, the fear can control you. Whether whether it comes in the form of a tiny little arachnid, it's rather harmless, you know I feel it controlling me right now or you know to, uh, putting all our eggs in one basket of these people who will, you know, whoever are will just get richer and more powerful while we all do our thing.

1:42:27 Fear is not the position from which to make any decisions ever, and I think that anything we can do to eradicate fear from our lives and take a step back and really gain perspective Perspective is the main thing that frees us from fear in a lot of ways. And so it's an important thing to have. So get rid of fear, get perspective and, uh, just do stuff to enjoy your life.

1:43:10 Amen, dude. Yeah Amen to that. That's all I got Read books, read some books, watch a mediocre TV show. Yeah, kiss your, your lady. Yep, you know, love people and yeah, kiss your lady. Yep, love people and uh, I guess until next time.