The Mick & Pat Show - Arachnids, Big Pharma, The Olympics

0:01 So Billie Jean does this thing where she chops onions wearing some goggles from a Halloween costume, from science class, no, but she also wears this green t-shirt every single time she needs her hair to dry after taking a shower and, uh, I have this video. I want to show you that I took earlier today because I, uh, I thought she, she looks like lisa, like Lisa.

0:44 Nalgaib, she does. She looks like the chosen one. Yeah, isn't that crazy? But that's because when she chops onions, they make her cry so bad they get to her. Huh, but isn't that funny. Oh my gosh, she does look like she's in. Couldn't hear too well, because I was, you know, playing music on my phone that loud but I was pointing at her and yelling Lisa Nagaib, lisa Nagaib. Anyways, welcome to the Mick and Pat show. I'm Mick and I'm Pat, yeah, and we got just another good old regular Apple show for y'all.

1:31 We just recently wrapped up our East of Eden dog your dialogue series four parts there. So if you love that book, go check that out. If you haven't read that book, don't check it out yet. Um, honestly, save, save the reviews for as you finish each part of the novel, because we will be in spoiler territory. But I'm pretty proud of it. I thought we did a really good job. I feel like we, you know, definitely had um great discussions and points and there's things that you know you found in the literature that I found interesting and, you know, was kind of insightful to me and I hadn't thought of, and I don't know.

2:12 Hopefully, vice versa yeah, definitely, the uh book was full of a lot, of, a lot of, a lot of common life things, a lot. But like that and like we spoke about when we did our breakdown of it, and it's very relatable, but through this kind of crazy story and so I enjoyed it I'm wondering what book to read next for us to do. Yeah, I'm trying to find one. I kind of want to, I kind of want to you know we did such literary you know, not capstones but cornerstones that maybe it's best to just find another good book we enjoy.

2:57 That's like, I don't know, sci-fi or horror. That we can do in like a one-parter yeah, and also it doesn't have to be like a discussion on the condition of man you can just be like yeah, wasn't that sick, yeah, yeah, wasn't that scary. Ooh, what if we read like one of the smut novels that girl's like I'm just kidding. I can't do it. I can't do it. Dude, papa Meat. He's a. He's a YouTuber. For anyone who doesn't know him, his name is Papa meat Very, very coarse and vulgar humor. But there's something about him that's kind, you know. This is just something about him that's like very easy to like, disregard how vulgar and coarse the joking can be.

3:41 Um, but he just did a video where he's reacting to essentially all of these reviews from like smut talk and all that from like the. There's like on tiktok there's a section that's called book talk and then out of book talk came smut talk. Right, and it's just all these girls talking about like they're like literally just having ai read these like super vulgar spicy scenes that are like I mean like literally, like there is. There's no way you can ever pretend it's not just like you know, literary porn.

4:24 Like it's so vulgar. There's like one of the most common ones right now, one of the most popular books, is like this a crown of quartz and roses or something like that, a crown of court and thorns yeah, and a series yeah, it's a series but like I didn't know, it was like freaking it's a bestiality book. It's a book where, like, the love scene has to do with like having sex with werewolf guys and like their claws doing stuff. You know what I mean and I was just like I know people who read that, but you know I mean I'm just like my god, like what are you doing, bro? there's always been like the like paperback romance novel like type, like crowd and things, but then like really, like you know, however many years back, like 50 shades of gray thing, kind of busted it wide open, yeah, and and made it like commonplace and for some reason like commonly acceptable normalization of pornography so I don't care who you are.

5:23 If I see you reading smut, I'm gonna make fun of you. The same way I would make fun of someone who like especially if you're a dude. I mean, if you're, I think I'm gonna make more fun of you as a woman, because I think a lot of women think men don't realize what it is, oh yeah, whereas, like, we all know what's going on if a guy's headphones aren't in all the way, or if they disconnect and we just hear him like watching porn. Everyone's like okay, like point and laugh at him. But like I'm just going to start like teasing people about it, Like oh really, You're going to do that here in public, yeah, that's disgusting, Like go home. Anyways but dude, I don't know. Yeah, what were we talking about?

6:07 Anyways, go back out of there, but, dude, I don't know what were we talking about. Anyways, go back out of there. We're talking about dog-eared dialogues yeah, dog-eared dialogues and all that. We won't read Literatica. If we do, I'm going to read it out loud, I'm going to force everybody else to endure it, but there's a couple like I don't know. There's a couple books on the docket that I've been wanting to read that, I think, would be good oners, but you know who knows. Speaking of that, though, and all that being said, you had a what do you want to start with today? I think that we need to start with the spider incident.

6:48 I think we could. I think we'll start with the spider incident, because I haven't laughed that hard in a long, long time yeah, that wasn't that funny for me bro. So, um, and I don't know, you know, if we had two, we both had two very different uh uh scenes of what happened, because last week, leaving the studio, what the hell is that supposed to mean? I'm supposed to like, are you saying? my experience isn't valid. No, it's not valid. Just what? What you were going through and what I also. What I witnessed and what was happening was just different and so okay, all right, you know like, because I can't wait for you to gaslight me in my trauma, just because I didn't know what was happening.

7:30 I I didn't know, like, what had happened, until I can't wait for you to be like. You know, I didn't see any spiders or spider webs but, um, uh, leaving the, you should tell what happened to you Okay? well, there's this janky ass awning over the door to the studio that honestly. Pat should just take a you know, butane torch to clean up. But it's got so many spider webs in it. You know, it's a classic like if you live anywhere in a city where there's awnings going over a doorway and it doesn't get cleaned regularly. If you look up you just see like it's just filled generations. Yeah, it's filled with decades of dead bugs and spider webs and spiders chilling in there and spiders that died and their babies came out and ate them and then made more webs and they're in like this one even has a giant ass birdness that like I feel like.

8:24 I feel like you should get rid of that just for the bird flu. You know what I mean. Yeah, but anyways, I'm not gonna blame you for the incident, but we were walking out, it's nighttime, we had just finished recording. We're, haha, laughing. I was looking over my shoulder. Pat is hitting the switch to the lights inside so they go dark and the only light is the light coming in from outside. And I open the door and as I'm turning to go out the front of the door, I just see the like blurred out, depth of field silhouette of something large right coming towards my face and I feel the web pull across my eyebrows, my eyelashes go down, like my head, like my hair, and I feel like something solid, like it's not just the web, like there's something solid in it.

9:18 That's like hitting my face and bouncing off and I don't know, bro, I kind of like. Next thing I remember is like taking my backpack off and asking you to like comb your hands through my hair and make sure, because I could, because all senses in my body just immediately like went lightning mode and I felt spiders all over myself. 60 seconds later I felt. I felt spiders everywhere like I couldn't. I was trying to be like focus, focus, focus. Where is it? Where's the spider? Is it your shirt? Is it on your pant leg? Is it, like you know, where's? it at Like I was like it's everywhere the spiders, they're up my pants, they're in my socks. So I was pretty devastated and I was freaking out. But I was yelling and cussing and I was shaking my head and blowing you know raspberries to try to get the web off my lips and my beard and, um, you know, I, I, I I don't think I screamed or wailed Like I wasn't like, the like, it wasn't like you know, the like pathetic, like, oh, it wasn't like anything like that.

10:19 Like I feel like I handled it very like, very masculine, like, especially for someone who's deathly afraid of spiders, like I feel like I feel like the approach was very like I would borderline say it was heroic like like I would be like the way he handled that, like with with his trauma, oh, what a hero. I was afraid you're about to pull your gun out. I legit like there was no, okay for people who could still like people who carry a line of duty, you can still carry whatever. Like you understand, like there's something that itches in the fear response of your amdula obligata. What is it?

10:59 Your amygdala? Not, not that one, but the medulla oblongata. It's why crocodiles are so angry. But anyways, that response in there, like it makes you want to reach for a weapon, and like your real brain consciousness is like no, like my gun is not a proper thing here, because that's just a tiny snake or a rat or a spider or that's just the ocean or that's just the heights like the height of this building and like, but like I know people I've talked to like yeah, it was really weird. Like I wanted to grab my gun, like as a cop. They're, like you know, scaling up something really tall and they got a fear of heights. And like I wanted to grab my gun because I was so scared and on the heights, like you know, climbing up or something.

11:44 So all I said I did have that urge to like, grab my gun and like, just like for this safety blanket feeling of it. You know what I mean Danny DeVito? Yeah, I didn't guys, don't worry. I didn't draw my gun, so I started blasting. I literally almost did All right, but anyways, go ahead and give your opinion, give your perspective. God, I can feel spiders on me right now, dude, I can feel them crawling on my legs right now it's checking. It's checking under the table. So I, yeah, so I turn off this light and I just turned it to the door and pat's just out in the parking lot. No, mick, you're pat. What what I say? You said pat's out at the parking lot.

12:24 Oh yeah, pat me, I was walking out the door and mick is just in the parking lot. Uh yeah, he's dropped his backpack. At this point there's there's a little bit of flailing, a little bit of trying to get something off. I don't know. I didn't know what had happened. I know that the spider was in the situation I had. Just there was just pandemonium of trying to. I knew you were in trouble. Make the same sounds I did so that way we all know You'll make the sound and I won't even contest it. It's like get off me, Get it. Where is it? It's pretty masculine. It's pretty masculine. It just was a little bit of doubled over at one point trying to trying to clear it all out.

13:07 And I was like I came to find out it was a spider, it was in my mouth. It was in my mouth. I felt the webs go in my mouth. That's why I was going. And so it was a. It was a spectacle, a sight to behold, and I think that here's the deal it had it. I've been in the same situation and it had been a snake, I would have done the same thing really, because you just don't strike me a snake guy because you deal with snakes all the time. That's's the thing is I rarely do. I do being in crawl spaces.

13:47 Yes, snakes, but you know what I deal with every day in crawl spaces Spiders, lots of spiders, like the, all you know. Whatever. Like bare hand kill black widow, like just like we, just like you know, and like anyone in a dark crawl space as you're going, it is like she lobs lair and you're just like feeling the webs across your face, we also like the scene in shrek, when they're falling in love and she whips up that uh web cotton candy. You know we do that a lot. You're in there with like a broomstick, just like. By the time you come out it's literally, it is the oh, it's like a cotton candy web so I'm used to that. But the snakes even like a little garter snake. They mess you up, they mess me up and once I see them I'm sweating.

14:31 The rest of the time I'm in the crawl. I'm scared, I'm like super jumpy. I can't handle it. That's so weird. I don't know that I'll mess with you now. So the snakes get me. I'm going to abuse you, the spiders don't. I can see where that could have been. I could see myself in that same situation, except for snakes. don't hang out in your awning over your front door. That's true. If a snake is dangling down and you're running into it and it's going in your face, you gotta get out of the jungle. Yeah, or the south Get out of there. I, the south, get out of there. So I was looking up a few stats on. The thing we're talking about is arachnophobia would you?

15:12 Say that that is like you. Is that an over? diagnosis. No, dude, it's excessively ridiculous, like I know. Here's the thing, bro, I can like pick up grasshoppers. I can pick up praying mant, bro, I like I can like pick up grasshoppers, I could pick up praying mantis. You know, I could deal with those things. Um, I get like I don't mind, like just straight up clapping my hands on wasp or something like that. Like I will just clap wasp, I'm not afraid of like the bite or pain from them. It's the, it's the movement, man, it's the way you know. It is just the way the motherfuckers look at you the whole time. Why they crawl at you. Like, no matter where they're going, they're looking at you like they're going to mess you up, and I think that's the big thing.

15:57 Do? These aren't spiders. Do they get to you though? The daddy long, long leg, is it kind of they don't really like I'll actually. So, yeah, like that's the weird thing, I don't know, it's definitely it's 100 psychological right, because tarantulas don't bother me one bit. I've handled tarantulas like gently right, like I'm not like just going out in the wild and picking them up. Like I see them out crawling across the road, migrating, I'm just gonna leave them be. But like rosie the tarantula, you know the pavilion or whatever is fine. And then, um, anything that's like you know the, a cousin or related to the jumping spiders, like uh, I don't spiders no, wolf spiders not cool.

16:38 Not cool as wolf spiders too, too fast, maybe too skinny. Yeah, I think it's the skinniness of the legs and the joints, you know what I mean, like how narrow they are, but like the jumping spiders that, like you know, they wear. They wear like raindrops for hats. Yeah, yeah, those guys are chill and I'll like I'll. If I see them, I'll go out of my way to help them it's probably cellar spiders that are like you're like, you're like a no-go, yeah, but see like even those like are borderline, just daddy long legs to me. Yeah, and daddy, long legs are so like, I don't know. They kind of look like weenies. You know what I mean. They look like the wind blows hard and they fall apart, so they don't bother me that much.

17:20 So arachnophobia, defined as it's a noun of extreme or irrational fear of spiders, and some stats for Americans who have it. They say it ranges from 3 to 15 percent, but a different study says 34 percent, when they were interviewing some college students reporting significant fear of spiders. But I wanted to know, I wanted to go through the symptoms of arachnophobia, the physical symptoms of arachnophobia that are similar to anxiety and panic attacks that you might experience. Okay, so I'm going to read through the list and then you just have to say you know if this happened to you last Monday night or not, or in general during your encounters.

18:11 All right, number one Sweating or shaking yes. Tightness in your chest or rapid heartbeat yes. Trouble breathing or breathing fast, I don't know. Chills or a flushing red, hot face yes, on a million percent, a choking feeling maybe, maybe, choking more like a coughing but I think that's because of the wet that got in my mouth, in your mouth. Yeah, um upset stomach I really don't get nausea that much, unless it's like I do get nausea when it's the uh, like shiny, uh, you know, like the waxy looking spiders, like they look.

18:52 If you step on them they crunch, they're like they like, they're like the same, like they got the same coating as like beetles and those kind of insects. Those things make me nauseous, yeah just because I know they're gonna crunch when I squish them. All right, um, uh, then, uh, dry mouth, oh yeah, a million percent dude, like the worst nicotine dry mouth in the world yeah, and then my last one. My favorite one is this last one, which is crying tantrums and clinging clean is a that's's real dude. Clinging is 100% real. How can you not, though? That's like your immediate knee-jerk reaction to jump and hold on to something. Yeah, crying, I don't think I've never been brought to tears.

19:36 I think the only time I felt scared is if someone was taunting me about it and trying to hold a spider towards my face. Right. But was like taunting me about it and trying to like hold a spider towards my face, right, but like, even then that's not like tears as much as just like, like I won't cry but my eyes will get watery, yeah yeah, uh. And then I just think a great defining word is a tantrum dude tantrum. I bet billy jean would say it's a tantrum at times it was. It was a little tantrum me, but not yeah, you got it together. You got it back together. You did have to check your car or something. You had to make sure you were safe in there, but you recovered well. Thanks, man, and for hey, listen, this is a a condition, it's an illness.

20:20 This is. This is nothing, nothing to make light of, all right here's how I've dealt with it in our new digs. Right, I've laid out sticky traps everywhere they were originally just to see if we had any mice, and we don't have any mice at all. None of the traps have caught anything with bait or anything like that, but these sticky traps have caught, I mean, dozens of spiders, big quarter-sized mother truckers, just nasty boys, and um, most often, of course in the basement, and then, more than anything, in the basement bathroom, for some reason, I don't know why, but it's like the basement bathroom is where they catch them most of the time. It's where the water source is, and it's damp and dark down in the basement. Why are these spiders like damp?

21:01 Yeah, they just do. That doesn't make sense to me, I know. But I put the sticky traps on the backside of the toilet, right, so they're behind the toilet because it runs along the wall and I know if they walk back there they're done Like I don't have to worry about it. But there's been several times now where I'm going down to take a deuce in the privacy of my nice finished base room. Uh, basement bathroom, yeah, the poop bathroom. Yeah, it's got a heater in the ceiling so it blows like warm air, so it's like it just perfectly acclimates. You know, you can sweat it out if you want. And I have, uh, you know, attached to the whole toilet frame and all that, the you know, attached to the whole toilet frame and all that, the you know, like the cabinets not cabinets, but like the shelving wire rack that goes around your toilet and stuff for you to put books on and, you know, bathroom supplies.

21:55 But on the top rack I have my Bug Assault shotgun. Are you ready? Yeah, and it's just sitting there loaded with salt, because I can just throw my arms up behind me like I'm grabbing to do a pull-up bar and pull myself off the toilet, but instead I just grab that bug assault shotgun and pull it down and it's already ready for me to just aim at whatever spiders crawling out from like they. Here's the biggest thing. I've seen them crawl out from the bathroom mat and start crawling towards me because I've put my feet on the bathroom mat and they're like, hey, what the hell? Yeah. And I've also seen them come out from the shower curtain Like they're chilling up in there and the bug assault shotgun it's just all spring powered and it doesn't have really the ump to finish them in one yeah, so I usually blast off a couple legs and then I have to pump it again and get in like dude.

22:50 There was one time where there was like three spot, there was three spiders in one poop session and I like legit was like. I felt like, yeah, I felt like starship troopers bro. I felt like I was out of rackets just seasoning the floor yeah, they were just running at you for different directions and I was like get some motherfucker. Oh yeah, and I was that. That was the closest I've ever come to get it over my fear, because I couldn't do anything. I was immobile I was like they're either gonna kill me on the shitter or I'm gonna kill them. Dude, I love a bug assault and like uh, I really want to get the pistol with co2 because that thing looks like it, like can kill cockroaches, that thing really might rip. Yeah and uh, they're great with that shotgun pattern you can shoot stuff and and then, yeah, then sometimes you gotta get in close for the, for the final kill like the other day, I felt like a, like a sharp shooter.

23:43 I gotta fly out of the air. Oh wow, you're shooting them While they're flying. Yeah, it just feels good. Yeah, it makes you feel Good inside. Have you shot yourself With it yet? Just to see. Oh yeah, it's fine. It's definitely like a gun that I would 100% be okay With my kids having for fun. Oh yeah, like Even if they shot One another. If they shot one another in it like they were being dumb and shot each other in the eye, I don't think it would do like real damage to the eye. Yeah, I think that I would like. Maybe I'd be like the only thing yeah, be scared, but like, even then, like I'm I don't know, like, yeah, my eye has been, I feel like they're a lot worse, and I'm all right. Nobody calls cps um. I know for a fact that they'll survive a bug assault shot just because what they do nerf to their eyeballs or something no, because I, uh, I, I popped them in the legs with it once.

24:34 Oh yeah, just to um, I shot myself first yeah, to let them know yeah, and then then we got them there was dude. That's the rule. That's the rule is like they need to know if they're going to use it, what it feels like, so that way they don't just shoot each other. Yeah, they don't abuse it Exactly. But the thing with arachnophobia you may be an advanced human in that people who don't have it do they even want to survive? Are they just you? know their smooth brain, they don't want to live, survive. Yeah, are they just, you know, dummies, their smooth brain they have. They don't want to live because, uh, you know, from best research can tell you know that there there is some evolutionary like uh, you, you know, string attached to it's just human survival.

25:18 It helps humans survive it does. But man, but when you think about it, if I'm like like Irish and Scottish, like what spiders are from there. I don't know. They might have some good ones. They might have some good ones Because the one stat, too, is that it's more common. Arachnophobia is more common in European societies. It's because we killed all the big mother truckers out there. We killed all the big spiders Because you don't have to get used to like the. Dude to like the dude, some of like the spiders that are in like africa and like south america, big, oh yeah, big old spiders and I think you know maybe that's the difference is like in some countries they're just food like they. They get spiders, get big enough that they're just like oh, now that's on the menu yeah and like that, changes they're like.

26:00 Am I afraid of chickens? no, am I afraid of like? I'm not afraid of anything that's on the menu, right, but like spiders here in america don't really get big enough to be on the menu, so I'm kind of like I think they just occupy that area of like. There's no benefit to you for me, regardless of what people think. Yeah, yeah, I know, they eat bugs, yada y yellow, um, all I said let's uh. Hey, man, what? What if we just move on and we don't talk about this anymore? to a uh, to a much less scary subject, or maybe not, which would be. You know, we've talked about it on here a few times. We've gotten to a little bit of the covid world, you know talking about talking about what's going on out there.

26:45 Everybody's got a different thought about this, that and the other, and right now COVID cases are on the rise a little bit just kind of your summer flu is coming around, biden got it. Biden did get it, took him out of the race. I think might have taken him out. We don't know actually. No, I think he did. He appeared publicly there's a few days that people weren't sure it's kind of weird, though, like when they brought him out I thought it was odd that jill and hunter just had to be, you know, holding him over their arms the whole time, over their shoulders, and it's just kind of funny. Every time biden talked, she like moved his jaw for him and she weakened it just weekend at bernie's.

27:26 Yeah, yeah, no for real. But um the uh people are still getting uh, getting vaccines, getting boosters, getting that covid gone from them um, uh and you know, like kind of, regardless of what you maybe think about it, there are just some facts about it as far as like how, like the efficacy of it and like how well it works against, like how well it actually serves its purpose. But then, uh, with any like, with any type of vaccine, there can be complications, there can be health things, you know, even like going to get a flu shot or stuff like you know, something weird can happen. But you know, for the most part people are fine, but on occasion the they're not fine.

28:14 And you sent me this article this week and so, yeah, tell us about this lady, cause it's a I think it's a kind of a scary situation. Yeah, it's super sad and it's. You know I don't really get indignant about much, like I try to have quite a bit that can just roll off my back. You know my expression to Billie Jean often is we just got to be like ducks, you know, let it roll off a duck's back and like I can empathize with a lot and like I can, I can. I can empathize with a lot of things. I can understand why someone might be angry and I also just really enjoy arguing. Right, I enjoy making a case and going back and forth and debating things.

28:56 But a lot of the stuff I argue I don't actually even care that strongly. I just enjoy the craft, like which way to put the toilet paper Dude 100%. This legitimately makes my blood boil, and I think it makes my blood boil because it feels like absolutely unaccountable evil. Um, I I cannot. I'm trying, I've been trying to frame it in my mind in a manner that isn't unaccountable evil and I cannot figure out how, how you could frame this and justify it from a moral ground.

29:40 So, um, all that said, I just want people to know like I'm I am pissed. If I sound pissed, I'm trying to remain chill about it, but like I'm super pissed about this, and it's less about COVID and more about it's more about the government. It's more about people picking stuff for you one way or the other. Yep, so Kayla Pollack I believe it's pronounced Pollack she's from Ontario, canada, she's 37. She was a healthy young woman. She was athletic fitness kind of enthusiast and there's images and stuff like that and videos online of her before she got the vaccine Right Excuse me line of her before she got the vaccine right.

30:21 Excuse me, but she had one of the boosters and the result of this booster was a condition that has left her, uh, paralyzed from the waist down and she's in a wheelchair. And this has actually been reported. I think, if I remember reading, 700 and like 70 of these specific conditions have been reported to the Canadian Board of Health. I don't know what the Board of Health is called. Off the top of my head it's not like the CDC like we have here. I don't know. But this is a condition, like Pat said, where it's not impossible. This could happen with almost any vaccine you get. Depending on what's in the vaccine A lot of vaccines you can have these adverse reactions.

31:03 It's just that, like the odds of this happening when you go to get a flu shot and having this kind of reaction are so, so small, like it's not, like it's happening every single year to people who get the flu shot right, and usually they have a lot of pre-existing conditions that might be related. Or like they're taking other medication that says don't take live vaccines with this. You know various things like that and in this is an incident where you know it's not just one person, it's not just a dozen, it's not just people on one type of medication, but it's like I mean 774 people paralyzed. Know, is a reaction to these like this wave of boosters. That's mind boggling to me. That like we're, like, like you have to kind of dig around to try to find these articles in these news and they're coming out of like Western standard news.

31:49 It's Canadian newspaper. Like this isn't just like you know, no, no shade at like Eastern publications, but like sometimes I don't really trust what I read on. Like the Hindu Times. You know what I mean. It feels a little bit like he said, she said, but like this is you know what's coming through here. And this Canadian you know board of health has at times paid out to these claims of complications as a result from the COVID boosters, which I'm like good If that happens. You know if you're having complications due to getting a mandated booster, whether by your work or the government whatever, like they need to pay out the nose for affecting your life and they need to cover that and I've seen reading around that they've paid somewhere in the neighborhood of like $16 million, I think.

32:41 In complication like what's it called? Hush? money. No, yeah, hush, money. But like damage reimbursement now practice reimbursement and a lot of these are like you know. They're all mrna vaccines. They're all either the moderna or pfizer. It doesn't seem like any of this is like the johnson, johnson and johnson vaccines from anywhere I can find um. But the moderna and pfizer made up, like the majority of the vaccines people took um and they are the ones with mrna. I don't think the Johnson Johnson one, or at least the first one, had mRNA. I'm not entirely sure, pat, you can feel free to check me on that.

33:24 But all that said, she's had these complications, which is awful enough, but that makes me mad. That should make all of us mad, right, like your government mandating you to do something in your life and someone like a mother at 37, her entire life is altered beyond repair and, uh, rather than offering to compensate her after like receiving, like the records and the evidence of everything, the Canadian government has offered her not once, but doubled down on all the offering to assist her in suicide. It's abbreviated as MADE, which is what does it stand?

34:05 for I was looking it up, it looks like it's Medical Aid in Dying is what it stands for. Yeah, and they're essentially telling her she's trying to get payments for this and they're like, well, that's gonna be really expensive and, honestly, your quality of life's pretty bad. So how about we just help you die? Like you know, we could just assist you in having a peaceful passing. That way, it doesn't cost us any money, you don't have to spend your life being in a wheelchair. And now it's just like are you? I mean, are we? This has to be a fucking book like this. It's hard for me to imagine that this isn't a movie like the. The federal government of canada is just saying hey, yeah, we're at fault for that.

34:49 And uh, rather than pay you, justly, how about we just put the pillow over your face? Yeah, no, no, are you sure you don't want to do that? All right, well, let's talk about a little. Let's talk about the pay, the cost, a little bit more. All right, well, we, before we pay you, are you sure you don't want us just to, like, inject you and kill you? You know what I mean like this is the fact that this is even a conversation right now makes me think, like, how far are we away before? It's not a choice and I know that sounds so doom and gloom. But, guys, you know, 50 years ago there was no government in the world that was a first world country looking to better the existence of all of its people, considering like oh yeah, you know, we should provide medically assisted suicide.

35:36 Like the countries that were doing that were countries that were unstable, couldn't afford to keep the sick alive, and they had philosophies and their governments that were like the sick are a disease, it is better to like euthanize them than to try to treat them. You know what I mean. And like those are the countries and things that like that, that like we've always tried to steer clear of, and like now that this is like in canada, I'm just like bro, like you gotta, why are people not asking like that question of like how long until they just start not having it be a choice? Like how, how expensive do I gotta get? Let's play the ballpark game on this. You know, if I can get up to 750 before they decide to like kill me, then then maybe you know like that's insane that we could even be having that conversation.

36:22 Right and or if there's a when it comes to like socialized medicine, if it's a you know a thing of like you've become a societal burden. So there's no longer like, like socialized medicine with like oh, it's going to take too long to treat you too like by the time by the time we have the bandwidth to treat you because of your place in line, your quality of life's gonna be so bad that, like we might as well just off you now, so that way we can shorten the line and save who we can save. Yeah, it's like what are we talking about? yeah, yeah, it's not like. Uh, yeah, it's like. And one thing that was reported reported here too that I thought was interesting, prior to them offering her the assisted suicide, was the she went to the doctor like with paralysis and the first doctors said that she they thought she was faking and that it was a psychiatric incident, and that it was a psychiatric incident.

37:18 And then it said that she said later another doctor whispered in my ear and said I think there's something wrong with you and I don't think you're faking. So just the fact that even this other doctor had to like Can't just outright say it, yeah, has to protect themselves from the mind virus canada is freaking fallen dude and so like uh, it's just, uh, yeah, it's uh. You know, whatever your thoughts on like getting the vaccine, getting boosters, that sort of thing, like on this back end of it, just the, the fact that it's uh, they're kind of even offering or also pushing someone towards this decision, just like gaslighting yeah it's pretty dude, imagine any other, imagine any other kind of like medical situation where it's like, you know, someone comes in like all right, I was raped.

38:11 Um, I'm pretty sure this person raped me, but I was done, I was on drugs, but here's like everything. I got that kind of lines up and like the doctor, be like, I don't think you were raped, I think you're making it up, and then another doctor having to be like quietly and can't disclose, disclose it in front of anyone. Look, I believe you, okay, I'll help you. You know, like that's crazy. We'd be losing our minds at that right right, right, yeah, there'd be uh, people would be upset about it and but she is paralyzed from the, from the neck down and has some use of her of, like a hand.

39:02 You know a little bit like move, move a wheelchair or something, but yeah, super scary stuff and the. You know the, the. The condition that she had was called a. It's called transverse myelitis, which is when the part of your spinal cord is inflamed, and so that was from this and kind of the. I was looking into it because we do hear about. I do hear about people having complications from getting injections and paralysis in certain parts of their body and I was wondering if it was the same thing. But the more common thing that is super rare is called ulnar neuropathy, which is where the nerve in your shoulder where they shoot it gets damaged, causing paralysis.

39:52 I mean it can lead to nerve damage and long, a long-term, long-term paralysis in that part of your body. And actually I knew a guy who was going to be a, uh, a pentathlete. He was going to be the pentathlete. That's a super cool one, I think that's that's the one where they do fencing and then, um, what are all the ones on it? It's, it's, it's fencing and running, but then it's also biking, swimming, it's pistol shooting and horse jumping and swimming, but like this is kind of cool Swords, horses shooting.

40:33 Real renaissance man? Yeah, it's a cool, cool sport and so, anyways, Olympic bound. But went in to get a. I think it was super normal, like something like a flu shot or whatever type of thing and just paralyzed kind of in the chest and shoulder and arm down and that was it for him. Oh my gosh dude. So, by the way, which is why lots of people know this, but you always get your shots in your non-dominant side of your body. I didn't know that. So, like whenever, like whenever I go in and get a shot, I always have, I'm left-handed, so I'm always like right shoulder, you know every time I mean, that makes sense. They always put it in my left yeah, typically they do. That's the thing.

41:13 If you're a righty, they're usually gonna. That's just how they do it. They put in your left arm. But so you gotta be watching out for that. Like especially when I did get my covid vaccine, I was like very much like this side please. Like I don't know what's about to happen to me dude speaking, all right, so I got a lot of articles here about this, though just because, um, I follow a guy named dr john campbell. He's great, he has a lot of we've talked about before, but dr john campbell, he's got, you know, all these studies he references in his videos about, excuse me, the excessive deaths in uh correlation to the increased amount, you know, covid vaccines and vaccinations, and that the excessive deaths align more with the rate of vaccines in countries than they do, in like, with the rate of covid in countries um, and like mrna, he's like part of a band of physicians and, uh, you know other doctors who are anti-mrna vaccines because of, like, all the risk associated with it that's coming out.

42:15 Um, but while I'm pulling these up right here, pat, I was just wondering did you have any negative side effects when you got the COVID vaccine that were more than just what you experienced getting the flu? No, just kind of normal, like a little bit. Nothing really besides a little bit of elevated heart rate and kind of feeling hot. But you know I had buddies who, like I had one friend who was he was down for the count for like a week really just on just being like sick with it, you know yeah, the johnson johnson one gave me like all body chills and aches for like about a day and a half before I was back to normal.

42:56 Um, all right. So, uh, looking at our world and data here, uh, tracking excess mortality, deaths from all causes compared to average over previous years, um, we've seen like at, on average in excess of. Like in 2020 was 87 percent higher on average in western countries than um it was in years previous. Uh, in 2021 it was 89 percent in uh 2022 was 91 percent and we're going up like consistently. Yeah, like excess deaths. Uh, which is measuring, like, like it's summing all causes together and essentially just saying like hey, like can we identify differences from year to year?

43:48 That would align with why we're seeing excess deaths. Um and uh, it's pretty much being found primarily like countries that didn't have a large amount of vaccination but also had high rates of COVID or similar rates of COVID, are not experiencing the excessive deaths. Excessive deaths are almost primarily uh amongst countries that had high, high, high levels of not just vaccination but high recidivism. Recidivism might not be the proper word, but like just um, high levels of getting the boosters, and nations where, like, people didn't get the booster, they had like almost no compliance. Their death rate is remaining normal and when we're not in the time of war, right, like everyone's like, okay, why is every?

44:33 Why are we having almost 100% more fatalities three years after COVID? Now 2023 data and 2024 data is still coming out, being calculated, and these are medical documents from PubMed, the NCBI, bmj, public Health, emj, public health. So like all of this is like coming from like very thorough, articulate, like you know, white paper websites for medication research or medical research, and so like they don't just publish this stuff willy nilly, right, but PubMed had this published here with Joseph Raymond, juan Averde, mark Jones, sandra, greenland, as well as several others.

45:16 They're all doctors Wallen Averde, mark Jones, sander, greenland, as well as several others. They're all doctors. They began researching the results of Pfizer Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and have identified that they're associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interests ranging from 10.1 to 5.1 per 10,000. Which, if you think about it, you're like, oh, okay, well, that's not 10 to 15%, that's about 0.1 to 0.15% of people receiving the vaccine, vaccine over the placebo um or having adverse side, of serious adverse events. But then you think about like, okay, well, if we're mandating people to have these vaccines and these boosters.

46:01 That means your odds are excessively climbing with each booster you get and that overall as a population, everyone's chances are not just going from you know, 0.1 to 0.15 percent chance you might have a serious thing, but like you start multiplying that over and over and over, like your odds of becoming that affected group are increasing. You know it's kind of like the. It's like the best way to think about is like russian roulette yeah, it's just like the, the chance of like, click and bang the next time is getting higher. Um, so, all that said, the documents here too, like they're not.

46:44 These aren't like hidden white papers Like. If you guys just Google like PubMed serious adverse events for mRNA COVID-19 vaccine you can read the whole study here Again. Here's one from this was published. Was published in june uh 2024, uh from the our world and data estimates for january 20th to december 2022 of excess mortality across countries in the western world. This one is like a summary of like all the data that you'll find in uh our world and data, but it's essentially reporting like across 47 countries in the western world. There was three almost 3.1 million excess deaths from january 2020 to december 2022, so almost in excess of another 1.25 million dead each year, which a lot of people like you get you ask any joe blow on the street.

47:36 Like how many people do you think die in america a year? And they're like I don't know like 10 million, and it's like no dog, it's not even close to that. Like that is so extreme. Um, it's like we're looking at usually around like a million or so people like just dying a year across, like on app, like, if you're averaging out, I guess, in relation to like population size at least that was, you know that's probably actually a little, just probably a bit higher that as our population is ground, but there's pretty much a ratio right and dude, an extra like 3.1 across these countries is pretty big, especially when you think, like 47 Western countries, like a lot of those countries don't have populations larger than like maybe half a million.

48:23 A lot of those countries are pretty small. In their entire country population might be a million, right, so we're looking at some serious stuff and like the percentages put into perspective, right, like a 91% increase, that's, you know, you're almost a hundred percent over the usual trend. That's a lot. Um, that's essentially almost equivalent to like doubling. So, um, all that said, that's addition, like all this has been essentially seen as being um associated with the vaccines, um and uh the boosters, because it's not like being seen in other countries that don't, that didn't have those same rate Um, and you can find a lot of documentation on these other doctors websites Like they're very adamant, they will show their graphs and the history of like what the trends are.

49:12 Um, but uh, kirsch, uh, substack by Dr um, but uh, kirsch, uh, sub stack by dr steven kirsch. Um, he, uh, well, let me double check that I think he is. Uh, if I understand correctly, he was being interviewed. I'm pretty sure he's a doctor but he doesn't say in his title, in his bio, as a doctor. So maybe he's not a doctor. Um, but he you know he writes about covid, mitigation policies, vaccines, corruption, censorship and early treatments. Data shows that vaccines are ruining the health of Americans and driving the epidemic in a variety of health conditions. So definitely check out. You know his stuff as well as react 19. This is my like PSA.

49:54 If you or anyone you know is having adverse side effects as a result to what you believe is the COVID-19 vaccine, look up react19.com. You can essentially get involved to take a survey where the University of Maryland, baltimore will review your survey results and then if they believe there might be a case for you having adverse side effects and serious health issues due to the vaccine results or the vaccine or boosters, then you can be a part of like the study where they observe you and they are, you know, first ever patient led research collaborative by the vaccine injured. For the vaccine injured.

50:35 Their whole objective is to make sure, like if you've been injured by the vaccine, you get proper compensation and, uh, you know, coverage for your expenses and uh, reciprocity, not reciprocity reparations, um, but they're also very thorough with it. So, like, if you're just like yeah, I've noticed I have a runny nose all the time, they're not gonna like good luck you know, this. They're not gonna, they're not gonna spend much time on you because they're very thorough about the cases they do. Um, but anyways, react 19 if you know anyone, react19.org if you know anyone, or you yourself. I want to look into that. But, um, all right. So, um, as of april 1st 2024 as well, there's been 10,000 claims alleging injury or death from a COVID-19 shot that had been filed with the countermeasures injury compensation program.

51:28 According to the HHS, that's pretty big dude. Yeah, that's a pretty big amount. And it's like specifically I think that's specifically in reference just to AstraZeneca, right, and like yes, that is percentage wise like going to be super low. Right Sure. Because, like some of the articles I'm reading too, is like CDC saying things like it is extremely rare to have a side effect from the vaccine. It's like, well, yeah, it is extremely rare. Also, it's happening. Well, yeah, it is extremely rare. Also it's happening yeah like, like it's it's happening a lot more than you said it was going to right because, like saying, extremely rare is not putting a a factual data point to it, right?

52:10 yeah, well, and a lot of these people like that are making these claims are people who would not have been seriously making these claims, are people who would not have been seriously affected by affected by covid, um, and so it's kind of like we're like passing the buck from like, oh, get the vaccine, so that way people who could be injured, like you know, harmed by like getting covid, are less likely to get it, and like it's like shouldn't they just get the vaccine? right, like uh, one of the main groups that does experience issues is young men in 2029, and then male adolescents, you know, and yeah, so yeah, male adolescents, male young adult, and it's like that's all. That's the group that had no problem no problem with covid at all.

52:56 Yeah, but instead they're having some serious heart issues and things, and so it's yeah, it's a yeah, the increased level of, like, uh, excess deaths among young people with heart disease is like crazy. Like that one in particular like exploded, especially like there was something like south korea, like the excess deaths of heart disease in south korea for people in their 20s was like, okay, young men's hearts are exploding, yeah, and no one knows why it was like. It was like, yeah, it's not like you know a crowd of dudes are dropping dead one day, but it's just like when, when you're like when, think about it this way, like kimchi doesn't give you heart failure. Yeah exactly and like if you're like one in every 10,000 men are between 20 to 29 or dying of, like premature heart disease and excess, and like you're looking at that demographic and you're realizing like they weren't before especially in a place like south korea, where like obesity is not like a thing, you're just like oh shit, wait a second, like that's kind of alarming you know I what I mean.

53:58 Yeah, what's a common thing that may be causing this? Yeah. So, anyways, that's my soapbox. I'm not saying it's a scam, I'm not saying it's a conspiracy to reduce our population. What I am saying is I think there's malpractice and I think there's a lot of doctors who are now getting confident enough to speak out about it and be like this is wrong. Patients need representation. Uh, you know, a lot of checks and balances were not adhered to when these vaccines were rolled out and I think we're just honestly at the beginning of it. I think I genuinely think over the next 10 years, we're gonna see some like insane lawsuits, like you know could be as big as the opioid epidemic lawsuits.

54:39 Um, and I know, like a lot of people, that's not back, that's not recent enough on their mind for them to really remember. But, like you know, we're talking like I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of like 500 million dollars paid out, which, yeah, it's nothing compared to what these companies make, you know, for their shares and all that shareholders, but that's still a pretty big lawsuit. Oh yeah, oh yeah, we'll see where it goes, and we'll see where it goes, yeah, yeah. And so the you know, speaking of you know, there are huge conspiracy theories all around COVID vaccine, all these things.

55:24 There's been some theories around the these opening ceremonies. Oh yes. The Olympic, yes, games. And so this last, what was it last Saturday? Mm? Hmm, whatever games, and uh, so this last, what was it last saturday? Whatever they had, a, it was long. You know the olympics. Great thing about the olympics is the opening ceremonies. It's, you know, it's, it's, it has been, has become one of these things where it's a chance for this country to show off all of its pull out all the stops. What's the biggest show you can put on? Theatrics and showcase your country, special things about you know your culture, your history, um and uh, your who's, your, you know your big performers, your big artists and all these things I remember, for the opening, beijing wungs.

56:16 We had been learning a lot about you know just how insane ccp china was. At that point I was in like eighth grade, seventh grade, and uh, I just remember like we had just learned about how brutal china was. We saw, like you know, the uh tinaman square, like history stuff, and um the beijing olympics. I just remember the, the red circle for the olympics. I think it was the red one. I'm sure you, we could watch it and find out, but like it didn't turn on for like the big reveal. So I just remember being so sad. I was like that man's dead literally like I, just like as a seventh or eighth grader, my heart sank and I I was like, oh my God, like I feel like I just watched a man die because, like I know, whoever's responsible for that?

57:01 Like they're like wow. Like you know like executing them Like well. It was just like I just think about that all the time Every opening ceremony. I'm like I remember when that one guy messed up and like he's probably dead His family got like kicked out of China. Yeah, and like he's probably dead his family got like kicked out of china. Yeah, yeah or didn't? yeah, his generations will be thrown in jail for it. Yeah, oh my gosh. And so people have been getting up in arms about the symbolism and the art that took place in the opening ceremonies, and you know, the main one being this depiction of the last supper.

57:41 So if you haven't seen it yet, um, uh, during I think it was at the very beginning, I don't know. It was four and a half hours long, so I don't remember where it was happening there, but ain't nobody got time for that either. You know what I mean but um sidebar real quick. Snoop dog was out there carrying the torch. Which dude? That's a tall dude, I love his um. Somebody said the other day like snoop dog's just been on side quests since like 2001 or whatever. He's just doing everything. I love he's everywhere I just remember when he like, he was like I'm snoop lion, and then he's like dialing that back. That was a little much, yeah oh, I love it, it's great.

58:27 But the uh, this scene of the last supper, uh, and the lat and really being the saying it's last supper, maybe uh out too far, but it appears to be like that. Was it Da Vinci that did that famous picture of the Last Supper? I think it was. Leonardo da Vinci? Yeah, but this one, this version, had a bunch of dudes dressed as ladies dressed in drag, dudes dressed as ladies dressed in drag, and people have kind of lost their, lost their marvels, lost their damn minds and the.

59:10 Did you have a conversation with anybody this week about it? oh, yeah, yeah, I mean I think I texted you saying like a couple people asked me for, like, my opinions on it. What, oh, yeah, yeah, I mean I think I texted you saying a couple people asked me for my opinions on it. What are your thoughts on this? And I think, honestly, mostly people ask me because I've had a lot of interest in prophecy and revelations in the Bible, not because I think at all that I can predict when things are happening, right, I just I find it being a very convoluted, difficult subject to interpret and I find that interesting, like just that being a challenge. And so all that said um, yeah, I had people talking to me about it and my biggest thing, I guess I don't know.

59:53 Here's the thing I didn't watch it because I wasn't even interested in the Olympics opening ceremony this year. I was like I don't care, it'd probably be weird French stuff. And then it was weird French stuff and I was like, okay, I didn't miss anything. And then everyone was like, did you see this? And I'm like, no, but I guess now I have to go watch, like a highlight of it or something, just so I can be a part of the conversation. And, um, I think it's nothing burger. You know, like, and I mean, I know some people might not like that, but, dude, I legit think it's just a nothing burger. It's one of those things of like, you know it. Anyone could be offended by anything if they look around long enough to find a reason and they talk about it enough.

1:00:36 But I most of all think that Christians, if we're walking, if we're walking the walk according to how Jesus tells us to and we're expecting what Jesus tells us to expect, I think we are the demographic who should least cry out for an apology, because if anything, if someone's really persecuting us was really making a mockery and really trying to like, rub our face in the poo, I mean, I truly believe that's an opportunity where Jesus is like well, not, I guess these aren't Jesus words, but Paul's words of you know, rejoice in suffering.

1:01:17 You know, like, rejoice in it and you know, honestly, like Jesus's words, the world hated me first. Surely it'll hate you. Yeah, and so Kind of like a comes with the deal. Yeah, and I'm like, dude, why would you not rejoice in, like fulfillment of Jesus's promises? You know what I mean. Like, if anything, it's just like validation of like what he said. So all this like here's what would have really offended me, here's like, if I'm a Christian one, like if it wasn't intended to be the last supper, like I just like, look at it. I'm like gross, like that is like, if it that, if it is that intention, disrespectful, um, but like am I surprised?

1:01:58 No, do I? Do I expect an apology? Not at all. But if someone came up to me and they're like, hey, man, I just want you, like I know you're a christian and I thought about you when that happened and they were mocking your face and I, you know, I think that's kind of mean and I'm sorry that that they did that I'd be like, well, hey, dude, thanks, I guess. Like you know, I don't really expect an apology, but I appreciate you thinking of me. You know I'd be, you know I'd think of it as considered, but like I have no entitlement, I think and I think that's the issue is like, if christians go around with this entitled attitude of like the world owes me an apology for how they persecute me. I don't think you're going to get very far with the message of Jesus.

1:02:40 You know what I mean. So I mean, but again, like I'm talking as a young in here who you know, the most intense persecution I've experienced in my life was people swearing and kind of throwing stuff at me. But you know, I've never had people like chase me out of town or try to stone me to death. Right For sure, and I think that for me, with what's happened here with the opening ceremony and people have kind of jumped to the conclusion of it was a portrayal of the Last Supper, and I think that the fact that Christians need to be held accountable for the fact that, like you got to know history, you need to know the classics, meaning like Greek mythology, meaning like where the olympics come from from from greece, you know and like, yeah, olympians, because they're running to mount olympus, right and so, with greek gods and these things, and so part of the you know, the opening scene scene of this, what was called the last supper scene, was, um, a blue guy, you know, a smurf, oh yeah, smurf looking fella on a midsummer like a platter um, but the uh.

1:03:59 If you know about history of the classics, that's dionysus, the greek god of chaos, of uh, pleasure and wine and feasting right and think chaos, and a little bit of that chaos too, and kind of like he embodies getting drunk and having sex. That's what he does right. Didn't he have sex with his mom? I think you're thinking of Odysseus. No, Odysseus did not have sex with his mom. That's the Odyssey. No, not Odysseus. You're thinking of a. What's the? It's not no disease. Now I've got that stuck in my head. It's no, no, don't worry about it, I threw you off no, that's fine, but um, because it's a, it's a condition now, oedipus oedipus, yeah, you're right oedipus.

1:04:48 but anyways, diagnosis seems like it's this scene of a bunch of you know it's like a feast, dionysus feast of you know people dressed in drag. It's sexually charged. That's what a Dionysus feast would have been like, like portrayed in the, in the myths. And so I don't I don't think it was a a portrayal of the last supper or a jab at it. And, like you said, even if it was, like I just expect it and like I'm, I don't get offended by. In some ways I don't get offended by anything. I should say I don't get like openly outraged because I'm just offended by everything all the time, like, like you know, I take if, if you're a Christian, there's lots of things to take offense to all the time just outwardly right in your face.

1:05:40 Now, it's your reaction to it. You know what I'm more offended by that? Onlyfans is just generally like the idea that a woman should sell her body and sexuality, or anyone should, is just generally accepted, generally accepted as like that's a healthy part of society nowadays, like that is more offensive to me than this, because that is like to me way more of a red flag of like our society or, like we were talking about earlier, like the smut novels the smut novel like we could point to things all day long that are offensive to and antithetical to my like moral compass and what I believe about how the world should be, um, but then like this like kind of crazy outrage around it and people calling all this end time stuff around it too.

1:06:23 And you know, funny thing is, technically we're just kind of always living in the end times, depending on how, what your perspective is on the whole deal, you know. But there was also this pale horse riding up the river and it was ominous looking and there were a lot of things throughout all the performances that I did feel I was like that's ominous, I do not like that, yeah. I mean like I don't think I liked any part of the performance that I saw. Granted, I watched a 15-minute recap of it. Right. And so people, people, like it's the pale horse, it's like the end times, like like the horse that was death and it's like, no, actually that's just the, the river, goddess of, uh, you know, going up, it's the, the goddess of the scene.

1:07:04 The scene river was the river which is supposed to be based off of the like sanctified version of joan of arc yes is yes. So basically it's joan of arc and this river, goddess character riding up the scene river, which is the river it was on, it was like, very appropriate the woman. Also, I found out the woman who was riding. It is like a member of the police it's like the idea, like this protectorate. Yeah, so I mean, don't get me wrong, it looked kind of weird. I thought the, I thought like I thought the framing was really well done for what they were going for. I was like wow, those wings look proportionally exactly for her and their wings on the eiffel tower and your kind of standard western christian doesn't have a lot of room in their uh room inside themselves for weird french art.

1:07:53 Yeah, you know like, yeah, they see, they see a pale horse and they just hear the opening to. They don't even know the opening line to that. You know, when the man comes around, johnny cash song, they don't know that like johnny's just actually quoting revelations, they're just like, oh, just like the, the johnny cash song a pale horse. Yeah, exactly, and like personally, I don't have a lot of room inside myself for weird French art. Yeah, neither do I. I'm not a big. What's that Weimar fan, the whole like weird German European expressiveness that happened right before World War II and kind of took over out there. Yeah, it's kind of it's a little too out there for my uh.

1:08:33 mendula oblongata yeah, I don't get it. Yeah, exactly, and so it's like that's okay that you feel uncomfortable about it, but maybe making too big of a deal of it and giving it too much attention, um, and also, yeah, no, I don't want just like the opening ceremonies of the olympics. I want to watch that with my kids and I don't want it full of like ceremonies of the olympics. I want to watch that with my kids and I don't want it full of like drag queens and weird stuff. And because here's the thing, bro no one ever dresses in drag. That's like modest or like not gonna like confuse kids, like who don't know like they're just dressed like hillary, you know like pantsuit? Yeah, just, I'm just having a pantsuit, yeah like kamal, here it's like, like, can't you tell that I'm drag, exactly.

1:09:15 It's like and like. That's the biggest thing is like for some reason, drag has to be. In order to understand it's drag, it requires like an extreme visual and performance, which I don't know. I'm sure there's someone out there right now who's like actually, if you watched drag which I don't know, I'm sure there's someone out there right now who's like actually, if you watched drag, whatever like show, you'd see they wear like modest women dresses and clothes all the time. I'm like, okay, okay, then why don't? they do that on the freaking Olympics. You know what I mean. Yeah, there's undertones or overtones of erotica around drag for sure, and you could easily make the argument too, though Like here's the thing I'm trying to be devil's advocate, to just be like it's not worth being pissed off about because it's like this whole week has been just the gymnastics and like that's when young boys are like girls have butts.

1:10:05 Yeah, like you know. You know what I'm saying, though, yeah and so it's like one of those things that's just like you. You could be like. Well, the the Olympics aren't that modest when it comes to just the way the athletes are dressed anyways. For sure, and I'm not that interested in the Olympics this year because the Russians aren't in it and they only sent like 20. They normally send like over 200. So it's like you know I'm like because that's our chance to always stick it to the Ruskies. Yeah, I would do prefer to beat the Russians and Chinese and the Koreans North Koreans in their Olympics rather than in war. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. Like everyone remembers Miracle on Ice, Like you know, what I mean.

1:10:48 Like everyone knows what it was like to either see it live or watch that movie the first time and understand history and know that America beat Russia at hockey oh yeah. And Russia was like this is bullshit, oh yeah, that's a great movie. I'm going to re-watch that movie. Just watch that. Kurt Russell's freaking great dude. Oh yeah, classic. For sure classic, but at the end of the day, right, there are other people I know that are talking about, like the golden bull head that you know was up there behind things being like the beast, mm-hmm, and that golden bull's head statue was like, built back in like 2016.

1:11:29 Mm-hmm, and it's been around and it wasn't built to be the beast like 2016. And it's been around and it wasn't built to be the beast. It's built to be like a symbol of something else, like look you know what? Also, I just don't give two shits. I kind of here's the thing. Man, you want to know the real thing here, get ready. Here's where it gets real dark. I kind of want them to be more satanic you know just get on with it. Yeah, I'd be down for jesus to come back in my day in life. You know what I mean. Like go ahead and like you know, like if they're gonna be like, well, we're gonna start doing baby sacrifices, I'll be like, all right, well, I guess I am going to try to stop that. But you know, it's kind of one of those things of like I want.

1:12:12 I want, as a christian, I want god's plan to come into fruition. I trust in his plan and all that and part of that point, like part of that prophecy, is like look, people will choose to turn further and further away from god as times get worse and times get closer to the return of christ. And it's not even like god. God doesn't say, well, I'm gonna make people more bad, it's just, this is just a result of a fallen world just diverges further. And part of the realism realistic, like, not realistic, um, part of the truth of that is, like scripture says, like also for you christians, like you're gonna be in a place that's pretty morally difficult because you're gonna see, like you're gonna to be in a place that's pretty morally difficult because you're going to see, like you're going to be expectant.

1:12:55 You'll see the signs to come and you'll have an idea that the you know, the end times are kind of coming right. You'll and you'll be expectant for Christ's return. At the same time, you're going to be morally in a place where you have to choose to try to like, object to what the culture is doing and it could be, you know, to your detriment, right, like. And so I'm not saying we're there yet. I think we have a long ways to go because, like there's supposed to be widespread famine and I'm like I don't know that many christians starving right now in america and that's supposed to be happening before the return of christ. So all that said I'm like, I don, I don't know, bring it on.

1:13:36 Just let's get the ball rolling, fast forward. All sorts of yeah, and I, just like you said, I'm just not surprised when I see things of the world be worldly. Yeah, ooh, wow, you know, it's just like. It's kind of like one of those things where people like are outraged that when they're like, you know they're like. So do you approve premarital sex and like open relationships and non-monogamous relationships? I'm like no, and they're like like what were you expecting? yeah, yeah, you know, yep, yep, yeah. Whenever, whatever the guys the president focus on the family gets interviewed about, like what's your stance on this? Or like, yeah, what religiously, what's your stance on this, they're like, I have a traditional christian stance on this and then, yeah, they're unhinged.

1:14:18 Yes, yeah, exactly same way. It works, the both ways you know, like, so I will say this, though I I have a philosophy. This is my, this is my kind of joking and stone right, but I have a philosophy in that, like we should try to eliminate evil misrepresentations of faith, like we should try to root out and eliminate, you know, evil people in Christianity who are going to be misrepresenting Christianity, right? Even the classic example Pedophiles in positions of leadership. I think we should start doing the same for, like I think the world should start doing the same for, like radical Islam, I would have loved to see a depiction of Muhammad at the Olympics this year, oh yeah, and would love to see all of the reactions to that.

1:15:16 You know what I mean. Because here's the thing also like, regardless of if it was Christian, like mocking the Last Supper and Christianity or not, right, don't care, but if it was, what's the worst thing that's going to happen? Some, like entitled Christians, are going to screech and cry about an apology and you know people need to apologize and or they're going to not watch it, but no one's like, oh my gosh, these christians might start going into villages and just executing people in protest, right, yeah, these, these christians might go to, like the, the news companies that were depicting, you know the last supper that way and just shoot everybody in the news offices. It's like like there's truth is there's only one group that we worry about. That does that?

1:15:57 Yeah, and there's a reason why that's never depicted in anything. But I'm saying, do it, depict it. Let the rats come out of the woodwork, because they'll come out. The rats will come out, the evil, bad people will come out, and then just sweep it up. You know, sweep it up and then be like all right. So we got rid of all the ones who are going to like legit, think it's okay to murder people and we'll move on, and all the Muslims who aren't radical will be like and nothing was lost. You know what I mean and we're better off for it. So, anyways, that's my opinion. That's my opinion. I'm borderline, like I'll bet a point now where I'm just like why not just put it up on a webpage, like, just put a come find me.

1:16:44 Like, why not just draw like a doodle of it? Put it up on the internet and be like come find me, here's the address. And then like just wait there for people to show up, just see what happens. Yeah, you don't know. Till you try no kidding bro that'd be some pretty cowboy shit. Yeah, no, there's definitely. Uh, well, it's like in jest, it's like and, but for real, you know it isn't just, but like, yeah, I mean it mean, it's just like People are afraid to you know, Do you remember the response to? Charlie Hebdo. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, like the Texas response, they got a bunch of artists together in a convention in Texas. Oh yeah, that started drawing it and they did pull the rats out.

1:17:27 Two rats in Texas came out and they're like we're going to shoot all these people up. And they texas came out and they're like we're gonna shoot all these people up. And they rolled up and they got smoked by a security guard in an off-duty cop. They didn't even make it past the parking lot one. I was like ballsy move there, thinking you're gonna roll up to a texas convention and smoke people. But uh, but it worked, you know. So, anyways, I don't know. Uh, imagine this though. Imagine a movie. I think this is a really untapped market. Imagine a movie where some people who are very upset about our depiction of Muhammad decide to pick up guns and go like kill the people depicting Muhammad in this way. And they arrive to a warehouse and they're like yeah, it's apparently a bunch of people in that warehouse running servers and printers, and they're like behind all this, and they go in and it's actually just a saw, like oh, no, and it's just like let's play a game.

1:18:23 You know what I? Mean and like we just see, like that be pretty interesting juxtaposition I think you know, oh, yeah, for sure, and just the fact of making that movie, would it be? insanity. It would be so dangerous, it would be the most risky thing in the world. Oh, yeah, for sure, okay, anyways, all that said, extremism is a disease, in my opinion, and it ruins everything it touches, and I mean that not just in concept of one religion or another, not just the concept of like one religion or another. I think, like you know it, it makes me disgusted to see like ecological extremism and them throwing shit all over paintings and, you know, ruining things for everybody.

1:19:04 Yep, um, so, anyways that's my opinion bring all, get rid of all the extremist rats. Yeah, extremism leads to, uh, to a dark path, and it uh, we see it everywhere, we see it in people, in whatever ideology, races, religions, you name it, and take it, take the pendulum too far to one side and it's not good, not good at all. Well, anyways, thanks for joining us, ken, for the make a pat show, uh, a nice little return to form, and I'm too far to one side and it's not good, not good at all. Well, anyways, thanks for joining us, ken, for the Make a Patch Show. A nice little return to form here. Hope you enjoyed the show, hope you take a moment to breathe, just reflect on anything that you feel really upset about and ask like, is this actually something worth being upset about?

1:19:51 You know, truth is is like a lot of things that we spend a lot something worth being upset about. You know, truth is is like a lot of things that we spend a lot of time being angry about aren't really harmful to, like you know, people's actual physical safety and health. We could think like, oh, you know what that's inappropriate content. Or I don't want my family being, you know seeing that or consuming that content and I want to. You know, I'm afraid of, like you know, the conversations that might lead to whatever. That's all fine and dandy, but like, if you want to get mad, get mad about governments legit offering suicide rather than like actual pain for people they wronged you know, get mad about things that, like you, can make a stance on and be like people are being harmed and this is not right.

1:20:33 So, anyways, all that said, hope that you took time to reflect this week, hope you enjoyed the show and Pat anything else for sign off Till next time.