Cracking open Wiseacre Brewing's Tiny Bomb was just the beginning of a journey that took us from the refreshing zing of an American Pilsner to the bleak yet fascinating landscapes of a post-apocalyptic culture. Mick and I, your trusty guides through this taste and tale exploration, couldn't resist sharing the laugh-out-loud backstory of Wiseacre's founders as we sipped and dissected the flavor notes dancing on our palates. But it wasn't all about the beer; we traversed the radioactive deserts of Fallout, dissecting the show's unique blend of 1950s nostalgia wrapped in dystopian grit, and mused over the intriguing cultural juxtapositions that make this video game series a narrative goldmine for TV adaptation.
The conversation took a detour into the heart of controversy, examining the community's reaction to casting choices in the Fallout adaptation and pondering the psychological layers of the Brotherhood of Steel. We didn't shy away from the tough topics, diving into the larger implications of representation in media while also geeking out over the monster designs and narrative freedom offered to us by the Fallout universe. Listeners, prepare for a rollercoaster of opinions and insights as we flip the script on what it means to bring a beloved game world to life on the small screen.
Ending on a note that's closer to home, we got real about the value of high-end purchases versus the convenience of everyday subscriptions. Sharing personal experiences, like Mick and Billy Gene's habit of stocking up on Liquid Death and Espresso K Cups, we pondered the significance of these buying decisions and how they reflect our lifestyles. Whether you're a beer aficionado, a pop culture enthusiast, or just love a good yarn, this episode promises to quench your thirst for entertainment and provoke thoughts long after the last drop has been savored.
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00:51 - Brews and Reviews With Mick
17:41 - Discussion on Wiseacre Brewery and Fallout
21:31 - Fallout
37:05 - Brotherhood of Steel Transgender Controversy
49:04 - Discussion on Fallout Video Game Influence
53:29 - Fallout's Cultural Resurgence and Monster Aesthetics
59:17 - Video Game Adaptation Discussion
01:11:36 - Product Review and Recommendations
0:03 We ride together, we die together and we bear voice for life. Get busy living or get busy dying Gang first last, are you not? Entertained. Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Welcome to Brews and Reviews with Mick and Pat. I'm Mick. And I'm Pat, and each week we sit down with you, degenerates to pretend we're certified Cicerones and Cinephiles. That is right. So grab a cold one and join us as we review Wiseacre Brewings Tiny Bomb and give our first takes of Fallout.
0:44 And if you've been with us before, you know what time it is. Release the Kraken. Alrighty, that smells good. Well, I think. To me. I mean it kind of does. But I think that's because I'm just trained. Just trained Because I also like my brain's, also like mm beer, but then it says mm dog food, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. What is what's? Did we check the date on the can this week? No, I don't think there is a date on the can no because if you joined us for our last Brews and Reviews, the beer we had, the beer that will not be named, why not?
1:29 I mean, yes, we should. It's the Strawberry Moon by Launchpad. We freaking roast Hooch Booch. That's true. This is the new. The Strawberry Launchpad and the Hooch Boo boot should get together and have a baby. The strawberry launch pad was honestly worse than the hooch boot, I think oh yeah, you know what I mean. Hands down. And so this week we are after something different. This week we're after the American Pilsner by Wiseacre Brewery. And on this can here. I like it. It's bright, this feels summery. This is kind of one of the first warm weeks of summer we've had, you know.
2:10 Yeah. It's kind of that shift from spring to summer is happening and Pilsners for me are always a good summery beer and it's got this summer vibes on here. But in the background of this summer Vibes is A bomb With the fuse lit about to go off, and A tiny bomb it is. It is a tiny bomb right back there in the corner and we got 4.5 Alcohol by volume. Not much else written on this besides that it's brewed by the good folks At Wiseacre Brewing Company In Memphis, Tennessee. Else written on this besides that it's a brewed by the good folks at wise acre brewing company in memphis, tennessee, which here's the thing I've realized I definitely start, I've definitely started stepping out on local colorado breweries, because my theory is, if a brewery gosh there, it is, here it goes, just can't even speak straight.
3:10 If a brewery hey, will you just say it for me If a brewery from independent brewers is out of state and can, you know, make it to Colorado with the type of competition that is here, then I kind of think that it might be better than 50% of the you know independent brewers that are in Colorado. You know, that's kind of some of my logic there, because they've had to fight their way in. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know, but I definitely think there might be something to it. What I do like about the head of your beer right now is that that looks like pee.
3:51 It does that looks like pee. That looks like a. It's like the soapy bubbly, yeah, a later it's like a 49-year-old male. What the hell? That's my pee. That was my pee this morning. I'm a 29 year old male. He maybe had a Partook the night before Of the night time things. And that's what your beer looks like, just a fresh morning pee. But I'm not going to judge it based off that. I'm going to judge it based off of it's flavor, off of it's taste. But before we get into the taste of this beer, let's see who's brewing it. I'm not going to judge it based off that. I'm going to judge it based off of its flavor, off of its taste.
4:33 But before we get into the taste of this beer, let's see who's brewing it. And we got two brothers, davin or Davin. Davin and Kellen. Bartosz Wow, some like them. Some Davin I don't dude, yeah. When I just hear Davin I'm like that is a white kid born after 1995. Davin and Kellen. Hey, you can't blame their parents. You got to blame their parents for it, and I love it. At the top of the page it says teamwork makes the dream work. Classic, love it. I bet those guys came up with that line. That's awesome. But on here it says Our Journey and I actually like their Our Journey, our Story page. They actually have a map of starting in 1997, leading up to 2013.
5:14 These brothers kind of adventures and the adventure starts off with 1997. Steal parents' rental car and drive to Sam Adams Brewery while in high school. So that's how these two kicked it off together Little Grand Theft Auto, underage drinking at Sam Adams Brewery. Fast forwarding through the years, how did they do that? I mean, I don't know. It doesn't say it just says they did A little bit of shade to Sam Adams Brewery for letting these underage minors get in there. But you know, then it has some of their stuff, you know, being college freshmen going to Oktoberfest getting their first jobs as beer distributors and these sorts of things, and it goes through the years and then one of the guys, kellen, became a level two certified Cicerone and but that idiot paid for it too.
6:11 Yeah, exactly, we didn't pay for any of our certifications. Exactly, and as a fake Cicerone I will say I didn't even I didn't know there were levels to it. You're a fake Cicerone. We pretend I just downloaded someone else's certification. I just like Photoshopped my name onto it. Get like a badge. That'd actually be a good idea when you walk into breweries. If there was like an official Cicerone badge, then you could make a fake. I bet everyone would be like oh my God, it's this guy. Yeah, but then they'd be like, oh, try our beer, get getting the free drinks. I don't know if they would do. I bet I feel like cisterns and small liais are like detested by small, like craft breweries and wineries.
6:56 It could be true. Think about it. Do you want the atf showing up to your like gun booth? no, no, I don't, oh man. So these guys out of memphis brewing beer for a while now. And well, what's the deal? The american pilsner? I feel like I've had a lot of pillagers I like, but not a lot that I can name. I just know, in general, when it says pilsner, I usually kind of like it. Yeah you know and you know you know you're drinking something that's kind of liquid food like. It's gonna kind of taste like a meal, you know what I mean, and it's gonna be filling, but not like too filling that's right, and I'm trying to remember when's the last time we.
7:42 I really feel like pilsners are kind of like the most burpable beer. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yep, they are bubbly foamy, as we saw when you poured it. But the last Pilsner we did was on our Brews and Reviews of the Bear, season 2. And it was the Pilsner. The Pilsner, yeah, from oh Adams, something I can't remember the name of it. It's the folks who have the beer on the can. Yeah, yeah, they have the beer on there, it's not? Adams, it's something Valley. Yeah, anderson Valley, anderson Valley. Yeah, anderson Valley, and they've got that language. But anyways, so next Pilsner up is the tiny bomb language, but anyways, so next pilsner up is the tiny bomb and I think it's time for push it through your teeth test.
8:32 Thank you for calling it the right test. All right, folks, again, as always, you're going to take a tablespoon amount of the beer into your gullet and you're going to let it roll over the back of your tongue, down the sides of your tongue, and you're going to let it get underneath your tongue and then start swishing it side to side between your molars you know the good old. And then you're going to put your tongue against the root of your mouth and push the beer through your front teeth, just like that. And yeah, it should bring out all the flavors of the beer. And yeah, while I do it, do it, pat. Tell us what are you getting out of this? What notes? that tastes like a beer. I'm trying to grab any.
9:14 I don't have any. Uh, I have to do a secondary, a secondary one on that one, because it's just um, it just tastes like, like like a beer. What do you get? Because I need to know too. You know, like not as bitter as the pilsner from vanderson valley definitely not as bitter or like sharp, still crispy, but maybe not as crispy as I think I'm used to Pilsner's tasting it almost honestly. You know what really comes out. I know this is going to sound weird, but if you take a spoon you just lay the Concave side down On your tongue.
9:59 You just let that spoon cover your whole tongue. That's what it tastes like. It does. Dude, tell me I'm, I'm good with these. No, I like it. It's just around, bro. That's what I got. The degree, for I agree, did you catch the spiked local wildflower honey in? there? I did. Yeah, that was in there. No, I didn't. I didn't taste any honey. Wasn't there? No, I didn't, I didn't taste any honey. Um, but one thing I've noticed is that honey flavor and actual like fermented honey tastes nothing alike. Yeah, like, and I've just learned that after trying more meads as well as just trying a lot of honey lately.
10:41 Oh yeah, I was really sick, so I was having honey in every cup of tea and stuff right, and I I just think that, uh, I don't know, I don't think we would taste, you wouldn't know what you're like. That that's spiked fermented honey, right, that's within it, whatever, I feel like I learned it like when I was 21 and I'd see something that said honey on it and I'd get it Because I was thinking it would be honey-ish, but then it just tastes like a beer. Yeah, you know, yeah, which I like dude, I like mead a lot. It's good. Yeah, I mean, it's good beer that I've actually had in a long time.
11:29 Because I didn't. I could not finish that lodge pad brewery beer, that what was it? Red moon, blood moon, not blood moon, strawberry moon, strawberry moon. I just could not finish it. I got maybe like a quarter through the can before. I was like dude, I can't do this. So I'm gonna say this I'm gonna drink this whole beer. I think it tastes good and I, uh, I think it tastes like an american pilsner. I think it honestly is actually a pretty good one. Like I'm going through my head and I'm like I don't know the last time I felt like I had a pilsner this balanced and not too bitter. It's honestly like I want to chew the beer. Like the flavor is so good in my opinion that I want to like kind of chew on it. Really, yeah, and it's like I don't know man, maybe it is just that dog food weediness that make.
12:16 Maybe it reminds me of like dry cereal a little bit. That just is dog food, I guess. Yeah, I guess I'm just describing dog food. Um, I guess everyone just realized I eat dog mix it. I'm just like, I'm just I don't even have a dog. No, um, I guess I don't know. I think it's good, tell me, what do you? think, I think, I think it's good. I also think I'm giving it a no thumbs Because I feel like I think we gave the Pilsner a no thumbs. Or maybe one thumb.
12:57 One thumb, and I guess maybe it's hard for Pilsners to rise to this wowing factor, but I feel like I could get any, you know, domestic, like I could go into, like you really think so. You think any domestic is going to be this balanced not any, but like any is, any is very strong, you know. But what I'm saying is I feel like I could be just as happy with like a coors or a rainier, as I am with this in my hand, which I know that's going to make people upset, but that's just how I feel and it, you know, that's, that's where I'm at.
13:37 No Thummer for me, all right, but not a thumb down just like a, just a beer to me yeah, I'll be honest. I mean, I don't think it's like knocking my socks off, but and that's what I'm asking too. It's like can a pilsner knock your socks? off. I don't know, I guess I've yet to have one that does Right. But I'll say this I think it's good, mm-hmm. I think it's good, mm-hmm. I think it's better than Yingling however, you say that beer. Mm-hmm, and I do like Yingling. I think it's better than Coors Mm-hmm. I don't know if it's better than Coors Banquet Mm-hmm. Yeah. And honestly, it does taste like Coors Banquet, yeah.
14:20 So yeah, I'm going to give no thumbs. You know what, though? You're at the Mickey Pat Show on Brewers and Reviews? That's a good rating because, in case you forgot, the scale goes all the way down to four thumbs down and all the way up to four thumbs up. So a no thumbs is in the middle. Baby no thumbs is going to college. You're getting a liberal arts degree, yeah, and afterwards still having a very successful career in telemarketing, yes. So nothing to be ashamed of. You put bread on the table, baby Mm-hmm, and your parents are proud, and you got kids that are going to college, and they're hopefully not going to get a liberal arts degree.
15:06 All that said, it's good Mm-hmm and no thumbs up is still a good rating here. So, hey, wiseacre, wiseacre, wiseacre Also. Just not the name, not a memorable name for a brewery. You know what I mean. Like it's, especially since there's no space. It makes me think it's like Whissaker. That's what I was having trouble. I'm thinking it's German. Yeah, maybe it's not. Wiseacre. Yeah, maybe it is. Maybe I'm saying it wrong, but thought those tennessee boys might be just saying wiseacre. Yeah, anyways, all I said good beer, viceacre, wiseacre.
15:47 Uh, I'm happy we picked it up originally. Unfortunately, uh, there was a beer called apocalypse ipa made by 10 barrel I believe they're called 10 barrel brewery and I was gonna get that, but they couldn't find it at the liquor store, um, and I thought that one was gonna go really well. But, but tiny bombs goes well with our show fallout, because the opening few minutes you realize what's called fallout, the fallout radiation baby. Um, excuse me, but anyways, uh, getting into the show fallout, um, and you know, as always, if you haven't been with us before, this is your warning of spoilers, for at least you know the first episode, because this is a first takes, um, and if we think the show's good enough for it, we'll do a full season review of the show, uh, but in our first takes we essentially just give our first opinions, kind of brief them to the point of the uh, debut episode, the pilot, right, and uh, with that, there's no real way to do that without giving some spoilers of you know the first episode.
16:56 So no season-wide spoilers here, but definitely like just to be aware if you're, and with that, there's no real way to do that without giving some spoilers of the first episode. So no season wide spoilers here, but definitely like just to be aware. If you're hoping that we don't spoil the show, don't listen. But in that Fallout, which is based on this awesome video game series the plot you know from IMDb is in a post-apocalyptic Los Angeles, brought about by nuclear decimation. Citizens must live in underground bunkers to protect themselves from radiation, mutants and bandits. It's based on the massively successful RPG video game series where players of the game must survive the bizarre and deadly wasteland of a post-war booms America. Post-war booms if you're not familiar with that terminology, that's just like the term for the post-1950s, into 1960s, pre-70s revolution, right, the kind of like whole, like baby boomer one job, you work at the same company forever, it pays you enough money to buy a house and send your kids to college, buy a car and it's, you know, it's like that classic, very like patriotic commercial, um or vibe, I think.
18:07 I think a bit like a really good show or movie that everyone has seen it pretty much that encapsulates that feeling, uh, or maybe like coming to the end of that kind of Cold War, post-war boom feeling is the Iron Giant. If you watch the Iron Giant, it's like it feels like it's right before the hippies of the 70s take off. You have this like avant-garde sculpture artist who just owns a junkyard and then you got like the military in small town, america, maine, looking for this robot right and like that. Just the whole culture of that movie feels very post-war boom. Yeah, and that's the world of Fallout 2, which is great because you're going to watch the show and you're going to get great classics from you know Dean Martin and who else.
18:59 Who else was some I'm trying to think of some other ones who were like some big old, they threw some johnny cash oh yeah, johnny cash for sure, you know um, the highway men made up of johnny cash and those other like you know, kind of big country singers back in the day. Also, um, frank is in in like he does a lot of those songs Sinatra, frank Sinatra but anyways, music like that, the bopping music of the 50s, is often played to the scenes of visceral, maybe over the top, violence, and that's kind of the show in a nutshell. If anyone is going in and thinking like, oh, this is going to be a seriously dark, serious-toned show of apocalypse in America with cultural commentary, I don't think it will be, because that's not what the games are.
19:50 The games are like there's the wasteland after the most ideal, idyllic and like picture perfect america and they can't come back to it. Yep, the Wasteland post. Any other time in the world is going to be worse. Right, exactly Because, yeah, the thing about this one is it's time has stopped, you know, and that's kind of why they're playing old music throughout and like, even like in the vaults, like their culture, their civilization is like still very, like hit, like very post-war boom.
20:40 That post-war boom, um, patriotic, do what you can. Exactly, you know you, you serve the vault, uh, and it's a pride thing. It's not a, it's not an indoctrination thing and like, while there is futuristic technologies that exist, really everything else is just time stopped, like that's why there is no new music, because there was no more music, that's made. They got going down there, yeah, and so the uh and the, the, the, the way they're contrasting that throughout, yeah, with this, just you know, barren wasteland, because I mean in the opening scene there la got hit by, like it showed like seven nukes. Oh yeah, I mean I think they could have spaced them out a little more.
21:23 Well, all I'm saying here's, here's the thing too is like it's a really confusing like. As someone who's played the games, I know a lot of people get kind of confused of like wait, when is this supposed to take place? Because in the flashbacks you will see like future tech, like yeah, at home, robots floating around on jets. So is it like more like the jetsons? So like it was 1950s, 60s, but we were in the future world kind of makes sense yeah, so it's. It's essentially the war. The bombs fall on 20 in 2066 um. I believe it was 2066, it might have been 2077, 2077 yeah yeah, um, but then, uh, essentially, the reason 2077 looks like 1950s america is because the whole philosophy is that after the like nuclear bombs of world war ii, we're like and we've figured out nuclear, like, you know, atomic technology, necessarily, um, there was a, an actual real world, culture, class and science of like, do we pursue um electronics through, uh, a like a, necessarily like um computing world, or do we fall the nuclear energy world and like, because there was a lot of people trying to be like, hey, we can use nuclear energy einstein one of them of like, this can be a fuel and this can be something that, like, with proper research and stuff, we could have, you know, nuclear fusion engines in cars and we could have the entire world running off of nuclear power.
23:05 Right, and no, no telephone poles, no waste, right. And then there was also the pull of like, yeah, but look at this thing, that is a computer and we can focus on like, making it more advanced and faster, and like it can do the job of a whole room of, you know, analysts, right, and it, you know, at the time we had full rooms of people just counting shit. Yeah, Like like the computer was like I could do that Um and so, um, all I said we, we went down the route of like not pursuing nuclear fusion and energy, and the whole idea followed is like no, they actually went that direction. So that's why, like you'll see, like it's 2077, but there's still black and white tube screen tvs right, it's 1977, but uh, there is still I mean, sorry, it's 2077 there's still like vintage big gas guzzling cars because they don't actually use gas.
24:03 They're all running off of a small nuclear power cell. A big one that I really love and I'll talk about, you know, later as a plot point is, like you see a lot of like Cold War and World War II guns in the games. There's also giant plasma Tesla, coil weapons, right, that are like like okay, that wasn't in world war ii yeah you know, and so like, um, there's just stuff like that. That's pretty sweet. The power armor that we see the brotherhood of steel uses, that's nuclear fusion powered off a little power cell, and so it's just. That's kind of the idea there. But it's also why you like don't see like a very high-tech heads-up display in those helmets. That's why the helicopters look, you know, like a fairly rudimentary, yeah, 1970s version of a.
24:46 Uh, what's that? What's the? What are those twin engine uh, rotating? All I can think of is that in the games they're called vertebrates yeah, in real life. They're called ospreys, um, so all I said that's kind of the reason for the aesthetic and the theme um, and it's, and it's a world where, like america never effed up in vietnam, never effed up in like and like, never like it, just america stayed on top and patriotic stayed in that white picket fence 2.5 kids and a dog yep um, and so all that said. Uh, that's kind of the the setting of the show. In the game and like pat was talking about, you know, we we follow three different characters.
25:28 One of them is um gosh I can't remember her name off the top of my head played by lucy. Yeah, lucy, she's played by ella purnell, who I've never seen her acting live in other stuff, but I really enjoyed her as a voice actor in the League of Legends show I can't remember what it was called. She played a character named Jinx in there and she just was phenomenal and incredibly well voice acted. Um, uh, but anyways, um, her character is a young lady who's about to uh, get married to another vault dweller from a different vault, because they can't have too much interbreeding because then they destroy their gene pool before they go back up to the surface.
26:15 Yeah, it's like. It's like already, like I feel like it's kind of probably weird for some people who didn't play the games and aren't anticipating like how weird this game is and like how legit like tongue-in-cheek joking and kind of silly it can be. Because in the game you go to vaults, well, after they've opened and you and like you find out that only one in five vaults were controlled equal even population of men and women and normal. Then you find vaults where it's like surprise, surprise, when people ran to the vault during the bombs fell, they only accepted 100 women and one man Right.
26:55 And then another vault was 100 men and one woman Right, right. And then another vault was 100 men and one women right. Another vault was a pre-recorded transcript saying they have to sacrifice someone every month, otherwise the vault would blow up right, and like all these different micro cultures. Yeah, exactly formed and so, like seeing lucy, she's in vault 33 and you kind of know there's going to be something goofy about it and it's like, okay, so to keep from you know, too much interbreeding or whatever. They have these three vaults connected underground and they allow them every three years to like trade someone for crops or whatever, to get a fresh like mix into the gene pool, um, and it turns out vault 32, uh, or was it?
27:39 She's in Vault 33. Yeah, she's in Vault 33, yeah. Yeah, vault 32's been taken over by raiders who are posing as vault dwellers, and so she finds out on her wedding night that her beau is not another vault dweller but is in fact a raider. She finds out just as soon as the attack begins and everyone kind of betrays and you get this cool, great scene of you know, was it Johnny Cash? Someone? was playing in the background. It was just like a 1950s, like. It was someone yeah. But it's just playing in the background while slow motion vault dwellers are getting you know a reawakening to what the surface is like.
28:21 And anyways, that's one character 's pretty cool. I like her. I really thought the set pieces were excellent. The vault suits looked just as good as they do like in the game, and like they didn't seem to me like cheap knockoffs, right, they seemed to me like, oh yeah, that's like something you could wear every day and you know, all you do is change your underwear underneath and right you wash the one of the three you have, yep, um, I loved that. They just kept everything very in the vault 1950s, 60s oriented, like the ovens and you know the just um accoutrement of like personal objects. Um, one thing I didn't like about the first episode, I guess, was that it seemed like everyone, even the raiders and the vault dwellers, just had sterling mark fours oh yeah and I was like I get it was probably an oversight of the armory department or someone, like that's like actually a pretty modern gun that that came out like after like the sterling mark 4 is a mark 4 iteration of it, right, and I was like they had an opportunity to have like some really cool looking world war 2, vietnam cold era guns that you know get sealed in the vault from the surface and then, like the raiders, come in with like pipe guns or like plasma guns or laser guns, things that have like, because you know you wouldn't have necessarily what they have on the surface so when they come down they're bringing shit that like yeah, because one developed on the surface if you haven't watched it, but you are listening is like you know the, the people in the vault.
29:57 They've, like, really never gone outside, never they've stayed inside the whole time, yeah, and so almost like, and for generations that's been 200 something years and so it's like the I, I, from my perspective watching it because I didn't play the video games watching it I was like, oh, there's nobody outside yet, like everybody's about to come out of the vaults and then start, but like, and because the way that they present it is as if, like, they literally can't go on the surface yet. Yeah, and they said the radiation is still too high, but really the radiation is not too high, like I don't know that guy was really radiated. Yeah, like the raiders on the surface are literally walking atoms. But they've. People have been existing on the surface for the last 250 years, so you could make it happen.
30:42 So they've been in this super tight small group and they could have let the vault people have grease guns and then the Raiders should have had a little more, probably a little more advanced weapons probably coming in. There's what you're saying, right, Because they came in there with like blades tied to sticks. Well, and I think that was fine. It was just like that they all had, everyone had a Sterling Mark IV and I was just like one of the cool things is like I remember in like the fourth game, right. One of the cool things is like you get to the surface and you find some fucking sorry, watching my profanity, you find some junkers, you know what I mean.
31:26 Like you find some like plywood forend, like PVC pipe around a lead pipe and a bolt like release trigger spring to fire some .308. Yeah, and it's like this is kind of sick. Yeah, you know what I mean and that's what I kind of wanted. I wanted them to come down with stuff like that. More the Mad Maxian vibe. Yeah, yeah exactly. And there's other stuff too. They have their own Raider weapons. In the games there was one that was literally an AK-47, raider weapons where, like uh, in the games there was one that was like literally an ak-47, but the the stock, rather than like being your typical, like underfolding stock, is just the like wooden handle of a shovel so it's just like the the triangle top bit with the wood, yeah, and then that's just like bolted onto a folding mechanism and it's just like that's cool, that's got flavor.
32:23 Yeah, it has that Because it didn't feel like the Raiders had been like surviving out there, as much Like what you're saying with this, like you know elbow grease, kind of make it happen, make it, you know, figure it out off of the apocalyptic landscape type stuff and you know, I'm sure, like the rest of this, episodes will have cool stuff like that and maybe it was just like, I don't know, it was just the pilot, right, but it's just like one of those things like missed opportunity for some cool showing off stuff. Um, uh, but anyways, um, the other two characters one is Maximus from the Brotherhood of Steel, which is Aaron Martin. Not sure of anything else he's been in, but I think he's fine.
33:06 I immediately actually had a double take when his eyes up. I think he's like one-to-one spitting image of Denzel Washington. No, I did the same thing. You know what I'm talking about. No, I did the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, did they make Denzel look young? It was literally like a half second. I was like oh, denzel. I did the same thing. Oh wait, what. It really took my brain a good half second to recognize it. Oh, the bridge in the nose down isn't Denzel Right?
33:47 So anyways, he seems fine. I think this is the hardest thing for me as a game like someone who played the games and really liked the lore really got into it, really played the game game several times. Is this depiction of the brotherhood of steel having anyone in it who couldn't like deal with, like a group of people beating up on him, um, as well as the brotherhood of steel having a, a transgender, non-binary, very scrawny, non-athletic person, um and uh, just for some context, not that like, that person doesn't belong in the show, they're. In the games there's plenty.
34:27 Maybe not in that group exactly, though in the games there's plenty of times you find a raider that's cross-dressing as someone of the opposite sex or like, literally, I started taking chemicals and surgically altering themselves to be someone else, and you're like, okay, all right, cool, or you know stuff like that. And then the Brotherhood of Steel, though one of the best quests in the whole game is you find someone who's excommunicated from the Brotherhood of Steel because she's a lesbian and you help her on her quest, not necessarily like it's not in any way she'd perform would be like, hey, brotherhood of steel, you guys are minos for doing this. It's just like. She's like yeah, I got kicked out because you know I'm gay and so like they don't allow that there.
35:14 And it's not even like the a put to death thing. They're just the brother, brotherhood of steel's like, religiously devoted to furthering mankind and like being strong and calling out weakness. And it's not even that they think someone who's gay is weak, it's just that they're like, hey, you can't reproduce and we live in a world where we can't do in vitro, so like you, you, you can't be here, you're just taking resources and we don't have room for that because humanity's on the edge of extinction. And so when I see the brotherhood of steel, you know, are there also known like in the games dude, if your strength's not high enough, you just can't join right.
35:57 They're just like tough shit, dude, you're not strong enough, you're not, you're not, uh, you know, combative enough. And so when I seen the show that, uh, this actress, actor and hard to tell. And well, actually I just looked up because uh name is zelia mendez jones is male trans, which means was a female, was a female. I always get that, can't ever nail that trans man means I was a woman yeah, trans woman means I was a man, yeah who I, you know whatever. I'm trying to help you with it. No, but you just flipped it anyways, isn't it? trans man means you were a woman.
36:37 Now you identify as a man. That is correct. Yeah, yeah, that's correct. And so they he was. Were we supposed to think that was a dude? Would that. I'm sorry. I wasn't like I almost said basic bitch mustache, but like, okay, dude, I had that mustache when I was like a 13 year old boy and I have, and I have that mustache right now. Yeah, that's okay, it's true, I guess actually to their point. Maybe, yeah, maybe it worked. No, I know, I don't think. I don't think anyone really bought it too. I was looking on the reddits and stuff and everyone was like I don't have a problem at all with like a, a trans person, being cast in a show, like it makes sense.
37:21 There is plenty of places in the world they could have been like. But, dude, if I'm supposed to believe that this scrawny twig is like in the brotherhood of steel, that's really hard to believe. Just because it's, it's, you know it'd be like. Honestly, how believable would it be to see a active duty trans green beret? You believable would it be to see a active duty trans green beret? You wouldn't believe it, especially especially like this wasn't a softball player. This was. This is like 82 pounds you know what I mean, dude, if like yeah, anyways. So all I said, um, I think that I think the actor, actress is fine. Yeah, they just forced it in there off the gate it just felt, it definitely felt forced.
38:01 Um, I do like, though, how they weren't like it didn't feel necessary. It was. It felt like a forced casting uh, for like diversity, but it didn't feel like a yeah, and this person's trans like like they didn't like the scribe interviewing uh. Maximus referred to dane as them, and maximus was like, yeah, they, right, but it wasn't like no one misgendered. And then maximus was like actually, they go by them right, you know I was like all right, cool, all right, I'm fine with it, it's whatever. I don't think you know that was. That was my only, my really only nitpick, um, and it doesn't even seem like that character is going to show up again, especially for not being a main role in the thing.
38:44 Whatever, but the other character, maximus, is cool. He just seems a little weak, maybe weak-willed. He seems built and so I was kind of wondering. I was like this dude looks athletic. How are these people beating him up? And I couldn't tell during the scene where he's being interviewed whether or not he stuck the razor blade in the boot. Yeah, dude, he's crying and like emotional and then he just like, does this really serious? Like his voice drops a couple pitches and he gets like very serious. Is it wrong that I wanted it? Yeah, and then, like, like, by the end of it, he's like crying again and I was like I don't know what, um, I don't know if this was bad acting, or am I supposed to believe this guy's psycho?
39:28 well, and here's one thing too because did he put the razor in the boot? I think we're supposed to believe that. Here's my insight from like just playing the games. Yeah, I think we're supposed to believe that all of them are psycho, all of them are sociopaths. Literally, lucy says okie, dokie and uh, deals with like just every like when she encounters difficult things. It's like she can just flip a switch. It'd be like okie, dokie and like, just deal with it, right, um and uh. She just didn't seem that shaken to me. I like seeing a lot of people die, like a lot of her lifelong friends and community murdered, um, and then uh, maximus, I think I think we're gonna find out he did do it and he's just like such a easily like like maybe not schizophrenic, but just bipolar sociopath, I think bipolar.
40:19 We saw a scene where he did snap Like uncontrollably. And then, of course, walton Goggins, and that's who I'm here for, baby, me too I'm here for the Gog. He plays someone known as the Ghoul, like he used to be Before the bombs fell Really successful TV cowboy. I think essentially he's supposed to be like the rifle fell a really successful tv cowboy. I think essentially he's supposed to be like the rifleman, yeah, or gun smoke, you know um and uh. He's just, he just is so charismatic in his body language and his facial expressions and honestly I really do think it is him.
40:59 And whoever the child actor was, she was great too. But him and his daughter in the opening scene when the bombs fall, and seeing his like frozen parent, parental, like paralyzation of like no, no, no, no, no, no and like just the slow realization on his face, I felt like really hooked, yeah, and I feel like even not even slow realization, but like slow acceptance yeah, slow coming to terms meaning like, because like the thing was like he was an ex, because we learned previous, like in the right before in the scene we learned that he's like been to war, knows about stuff yeah, been in the marines right, and so Knows about nuke bombs.
41:40 He just like when this thing went off, he knew like this fate was sealed. Yeah, you know, he just knew it, yeah. And then, like this, like so he wasn't like frozen, like he couldn't get into action, but just as he knew there was nothing to do. And then he did do something but, like you know, that was kind of like just this, like it was pretty sweet. It was definitely gripping for sure, and I was like man, this dude is like what I'm here for. Now he's dead, he's out of the show. In the first five minutes. Well, I knew he wasn't because I'd seen him makeuped as the ghoul, right, but he's a ghoul and, in the world of fallout, a ghoul.
42:22 If people are like, how the hell is this orange skeleton walking around a ghoul is essentially just a result of the radiation that pretty much makes you like immortal, like your, your brain and your body slowly decompose at. It's like, somehow, like, the radiation makes the human body decomp, decomposition match the decomposition of the type of radiation. Ah, and so like, um, you no longer need to eat, you need to still breathe, kind of a little bit, but like, not really that much. Um, and eventually all ghouls go feral to the point where they just like, their brain rots away so much that they just become walking zombie husk. And so that's kind of like I'm hoping be like the crux of his plot point of, like the emotional like, oh, like he's starting to go feral.
43:11 How sad, you know, like, and he's only got so much time left, right, I'm kind of wondering if they'll do that. But he's, he's. We find out, you know, 200. And what was it 71 years later? Uh, that he's a ghoul living underground waiting to be awoken for the next bounty, and he's a cowboy ghoul, he's a gunslinger ghoul and, uh, he's a goblin ghoul, um, and he's got no nose, which I think is cool, which I realize is probably why he sounds different, because I distinctly notice like, between the scenes where he's a human in the past and where he's a ghoul without a nose in the future, he's doing a whole different accent.
43:53 But it wouldn't be nasally, because your nose is congestion, right, and he just has no nose. It's right. It's like, I don't know, I just noticed. I'm not, I'm not sure it's like the right accent, but it he has a distinct accent that he chooses for the ghoul versus like him in the past. Maybe that's because of the prosthetic, like some like actually I don't like he's not choosing it, you know, oh sure yeah, like it's because there's something on his like I don't know, a green screen? Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but anyways, all that said, he's excellent, he's. It comes off immediately to me as like villain. Yeah, but he's the bad guy that I want to win, exactly he's villain, but not really the villain, because I think someone like Maximus could be the real villain, like the real unhinged, like he wants glory so bad that he could be the bad guy and he doesn't want what it takes to get it.
44:50 Yeah, like what if he is cutting corners? What if he? is sabotaging All I said. I like the entourage cast, the ensemble cast, kyle McLaughlin, you know you get him for like five scenes. He has like 30 seconds of dialogue which you know, maybe that's all they can afford because he's kind of a bigger, more older name. I do have a theory that Lee Moldover somehow is going to be the ghoul's daughter and that's coming from Billie Jean and I think that's why the ghoul, when he heard something about Moldover from the people who woke him up, is why he wasted those guys. It's got to be his granddaughter right.
45:31 No, because 200. Is she a ghoul then? No, but one of the vaults, at least one of them that you know from the games. Uh, the whole thing was that you just go in a cryo oh no, anti-aging okay yeah, and so like the like that the experiment was like what would happen if you woke up some people and trickled them, rather than waking everybody up at once? How would humanity react in this vault? And so, like there's a good chance that she was just cryo'd and he actually got on the horse and rode her to the vault. Because here's the other thing look at his colors, look at his uniform you know I'm talking about from the birthday party. Look at the vault suits yeah, I think he is like the spokesperson for vault vault tech.
46:15 Oh, yeah, okay, and they based the suits off of his like gun smoke outfit, okay, and so I think, like he's definitely got a vault set up for his, him and his family. Um, all that said, uh, I think the main characters are cool. Um, I'm excited about him. Uh, I do think it's kind of funny, though, that, like Fallout 3, which was the first one that Bethesda made, the main story kicks off as you have to find your dad. You're a vault dweller, your dad took off for some reason and now you're getting kicked out of the vault. You got to go find dad. Fallout 4, you wake up out of cryo.
46:55 You got to find your. Who ends up being the leader of an organization and his name's Father Fallout TV. You gotta go find your dad. I'm not expecting too much out of the plot. I feel, like we're kind of bed here before. She's already finding. The quest is for her to go find her dad because he got taken by raiders. That's what I'm saying. The ghoul needs to go find his kid, alright, and we don't know about Maximus' parents. I think he You're right. I don't think we know for sure. We saw a flashback Because he went Indiana Jones into the fridge for the nuke.
47:36 Imagine his who knows, it might not even have been the nuke Jones in the forge into the fridge. For the new imagine is who knows, it might not even been the nuke right, just been like yeah but I think his parents are dead they got raided yeah, but anyways, I also felt like the choreography. This first episode, the fight scenes had that like unfortunate side effect of like again the person who was doing the visual effects wasn't there to help choreograph and uh, it just felt like off paced like you know how, like someone's jumping and swinging a knife and then the blood squirts out in the like kind of wrong direction, right, and I'm just like seems to me like the like the choreography pacing is a little off, maybe just like or maybe amateurish, with like how they did the effects.
48:23 But I thought all the CGI, I thought the muzzle flashes and the blood looked really good itself. I think I couldn't tell and I had to look it up. I could not tell when the Brotherhood of Steel suits were cgi, when they were real yeah and like I looked it up and like they did make several of the suits for, like you know, in being in the shots. So I legitimately and it doesn't look like plastic to me, no, whereas, like I love halo, halo is probably one of my all-time favorite games, it's what you know. Yeah, probably put me on the path to become who I am. Yeah, like in a, as a, as a boy right dude, the master chief suit looks like flipping rubber, looks like the one in the show, yeah yeah, it looks so bad.
49:07 Um, and uh, I thought the armor and stuff in this looked pretty good. There's none of like the raider stuff that I was like, okay, that's weird, like that just looks cheap and cheesy, right. So, um, I don't know what about you? What do you think of? Like the sets in the? Yeah, I thought it was. I thought it was all well done. I did feel like if I didn't know it was based off a video game, I would have been like what the heck is going on? Because there is this like you know, random cowboy town where there's still a guy wearing a poncho 237 years later. But, like you know, like yeah. But but then if you, looking at it through video game world, you're like, oh, this is the level where it's the western town people, right, like these are the western town kids are like, oh, this is the you know the like each faction was like so vastly different.
49:58 It was just kind of like it made it. It made sense, like, oh, this is video gamey, not like if this had been written now, if someone came up, came up with the idea now and just wrote a tv show about this story, it would have been very different, yeah. But so I feel like it is good. It just is you. I feel like it is good. I feel like you do have to know in the back of your mind it's based off a game. It's based off a video game and a video game that started in 1997. Yeah, A video game that not only started by someone else but has survived being in the hands of different writers and publishers. From 1997 to 2022. It was the last game. Yes, that's a lot. It'll be another one.
50:39 That's a lot, that's a long time. Oh yeah, um, and I think it should feel that way. I would have been upset if it didn't feel gaming Cause, like it, it, the game itself is almost sometimes so aware it breaks the fourth wall sometimes, um, and I think there's a lot of things people just don't know like that they like culturally we get to enjoy that really do come from like the fallout games, right, like making them popular. Like you know that song I don't want to set the world on fire, uh-huh, dude, that song's resurgence is entirely, I think, owed to fallout. Same with marty robbins, you know, like the ballad of marty robbins and like how he's got you know his classic red album cover and like that's kind of a big deal in gun culture now and like gun culture memes, dude, marty robbins was completely forgotten before big iron was played in fallout new vegas and everyone was just a post-apocalypse cowboy walking around.
51:40 That's one of the things I guess with the games is like, in all the games there's always radio stations that you can just tune into that are playing in the post-apocalypse. That's all old, it's all old music and that's how I found, that's how I actually found I enjoyed Johnny Cash, frank Sinatra, marty Robbins was because of the Fallout games, music and like that's how I found. You know that's how I actually found. Like my I enjoyed johnny cash, frank sinatra and marty robbins was because of the fallout games. And I know that's like my wife was talking. She was joking about how, when she was growing up, her brother would literally every morning after he got fallout 3, just wake up belting out I don't want to set the world on fire, oh yeah, I just want to set a fire in your heart and like that's just what he's saying every morning.
52:22 You know what I mean. And she was like I didn't know why he's saying that for so long, right, and I was like, oh, I know, I know immediately, like, and so it's one of those things I think, too, like kind of the resurgent and like modern day dudes like our age, you know, millennials wanting to have boomer guns. Like a millennial wanting like don't get me wrong being a brothers saving private ryan for sure, we saw those. We thought those were sick. I genuinely think, like the reason I want some of those world war ii vietnam era guns is because that game made them seem like iconic, like you're in the wasteland. There's all this piece of crap, junk, these pipe guns.
53:05 Then you get into this military bunker, you get down and you find somewhere preserved in it is like the straight up, like cult commando. You're like, oh my god, I'll be unstoppable, like it's. You know, something just like that. That kind of like brings back, I think, like the nostalgia of a different culture right, and makes people our age appreciate that like culture. So, oh, I said I just think it's done really well in adapting that vibe, um and feeling silly and gamey, but also also very much glorifying a different time in America. Right, I agree, I think. What do you think since you've played the games?
53:47 What are you excited for? Oh, dude, the monsters, dude, there are some wacky, nightmarish things. Oh yeah, dude, there's. Like you know, I I want to see the super mutants and uh, the super mutants are just like literally big green lumbering mutants that are dumb and they wear? they wear stop signs and tires and football helmets as armor and they swing rebar with concrete on it. Oh yeah, um, I want to see that and like there's like just nightmarish, like mole rats and cockroaches and big old flies, um, and they're all like done in like a, a, a very interesting aesthetic, that like there's a consistent theme when you look at all of them, of like not horror necessarily, but like it, all of it feels very like 1960s, seventies pulpiness.
54:47 You know, like almost like, uh, like that's exactly how that would have looked in a 1960s like movie where they had no CGI. It was just like paper mache puppet, you know, kind of Godzilla-esque a little bit, you know, like that rubber suit, and that's how all the creatures kind of look in the game. But they look also terrifyingly real. Excited to see that because it'll be interesting to see how they blend like uh, you know that pulpy look of like a costume with cgi or like, or they'll just have to make actual costumes and probably like what they did in last of us I think so.
55:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, with like people in costume, augmented by cgi yeah yeah, yeah, that's what I'm really looking forward to. I don't know what they'll do, though you know like they might. Maybe they like just the cgi budget's, just like. Look like we just can't afford to have a lot of the monsters here in this this season they'll come in season two yeah, but if they need to, I'm fine with that and is fall, is the storyline of fallout have such a cult following that they can mess it up? Or was this such a video game video game that they can really meaning like before modern video games, where people really care about like this, like how the actual character development storyline goes? It's just like was it, yeah, an old enough game where now it's like they kind of have the freedom to do what they want and they probably have a better chance at making fans happy.
56:17 They have a way better chance, because Fallout is a game where the character you play as total blank slate, right. So there is no set lore of what you do. There's the lore of the world, right. Like you know, this is when the bombs fell. These are where these vaults are and these are some of the big characters in the world. Like you know, this is when the bombs fell. these are where these vaults are and these are some of, like, the big characters the rules of this universe, yeah but, like, the game is, you pick what you want to do and you never have a real name other than, like, the courier, the vault, dweller, right, and so there's no real like reason that they have to do it a certain way. Now the only thing I can see them really screwing up is like and really pissing off fans as if, like they just blatantly throw out like what fans have come to enjoy, like and by that I mean just like you know, if it wasn't like 1950s-esque kind of theme and culture, you know if it wasn't like 1950s-esque kind of theme and culture if they threw out the violence to just be like very PG-13.
57:24 I mean like there's literally a thing in the game where you get a perk called Bloody Mess and it's just 5% chance that whenever you shoot anyone they just explode, yeah, and that's just like. It makes no sense, but it's awesome. There's another one it makes no sense, but it's awesome. There's another one it's a perk where it's called mysterious stranger. It's like five percent chance that the mysterious stranger shows up to like kill one of your guys. It's literally like a nor detective in, like a tan. Uh, what's those? uh, what's the trench coat and then like a fedora yeah and I want that in the show so bad like I want lucy about to die. It like it like she looks over and just man with popped up tan fedora hat and a trench coat, collar, six-year revolver and he just stows it, nods at her and walks away.
58:12 I'm like that'd be great because that was like that is what happens in the game. Yeah, um, and so, all that said, I think they are already like nailing everything that's important, like the pit boy, that's really cool. The sound effects, the artwork, um, and just kind of the lore, the vibe in general. Um, it's not like, you know, it's not like master chief or the witcher, like so, like halo the witcher, like so, like halo the witcher. I'm trying to think of other bad video game adaptions recently. Um, I don't know, uh, but those two particularly come to mind just because it's like those are games that have incredibly solid, uh, consistent, like um, media around them, like the halo games themselves like lots of dialogue, lots of character development throughout the whole time.
59:01 And before the first Halo game came out, they dropped a 500 page book that came out like six months before the game did, just for the sake of like, hey, this is who Master Chief is, this is what's going on. And those books like the Witcher, those are all like those games are like. They follow pretty closely to what happens in the books and the books support the games and it's created that whole fan base who has like consistent understanding of like the media and the timeline and like why they enjoy it and like why, why they enjoy it.
59:41 And yeah, they feel really cool when they're like playing halo and a character from the books who's never been in any of the games before shows up and they're like, oh my gosh, I know who that is right. And then when the tv show just throws all that out the window and they're like, uh, jacob keys. Uh, he's black now. Um, not that that really matters, but he's married to miranda keys, which in the games, is his daughter, and it's like what are you doing? Yeah, why are we going with this? That's like one that they messed up. Bad was Assassin's Creed. Oh yeah. And they made it into a movie Dude I heard that movie was just boring. Yeah, because that's one of my, I think. I love that game. And that has, I think, some of the best potential for movies. Oh yeah, like because of the settings and the different times and some of the lore and actual, like real history behind, like some of the stuff too, that game made me love.
1:00:32 I never cared about the Roman Empire or the Ottoman Empire or just ancient Italy, Right. And then I played the Assassin's Creed games and I'm literally walking around speaking Italian to people after I played those games because they made me like it so much. Oh yeah, and so that one they had a lot of potential there and they just squandered it. And it happens. But I think that this one doesn't have the like a precedent set yeah, you know, where they have to, they can. They can kind of do what they want, and so and the thing that they did smart was that there is no one in the game in the show. As far as I understand, from what I've heard and stuff you know, I haven't watched a little series there's no in the show who exist in the games, and the show takes place, I think, like 30 years after the most recent game.
1:01:19 So, like no one is like, well, that guy wouldn't be there at that point in time because that guy is supposed to be here, you know. It's like no who cares, and like that's the thing too, with, like the Halo show, the Witcher show, main character shouldn't have been Master Chief or Geralt of Rivia. It should have just been like yes, you guys love those guys, uh-huh, and we're going to tell this story about this person or group of people, and that way, it gives us the flexibility of not having to adhere to, like the you know, actual sentences written in a book, right. And then, oh my gosh, you're going to shit your pants when Master Chief shows up, right, which is like that's what should have happened In this show.
1:02:06 I think it'd be cool. Like I said, I'll be stoked, I'll pump my fists in the air. If the mysterious stranger shows up for literally two seconds. I'll be like hell. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, you know what I mean. So, all that said, I think it looks cool. I think the special effects, honestly, are worth it alone just to watch. Like I think it's very impressive. I'm just, I watched Rings of Power and I watched some of the real time and I just think Amazon has like a habit of wasting a shitload of money on too many like, too much staff and like not enough.
1:02:51 Like, just focus on making good quality media, you know, like good, believable CGI, when to use it, when to not use it, when to like okay. Rather than spending $50 million on CGI for these two minutes, what if we spent $10 million on telling a story? Like, not even on telling a story, but just like $10 million on a physical scene, with a stage group that knows how to set up the stuff and paint it and do you know layering? So we have good depth perception in the camera and it looks real and there's like real shadows of trees, branches, on people's faces, right and I. It just feels like with this show they were like all right enough wasting money.
1:03:34 I just want there to be a damn like vault Right and yes, we'll use green screen, or like I just want there to be a damn like vault Right and yes, we'll use green screen, or like you know, three projection images for some of it, but like damn it, give me a door that opens up vertically and I just want it to do that and it looked like it's built in the 1950s and like I genuinely, like I can tell there's some points in the vault. I'm like that's probably cgi, but it's not because there's like this weird hazy line outline around actors from green screen or blue screen, right, and it's not because the cgi looks muddy, it's just like I just really don't think they built this full underground vault complex like.
1:04:15 But I do think they built quite a bit on the stage and I think a lot of it is real. Same with the wasteland Like I just think a lot of it's real and it looks good yeah. Yeah, I think, uh, I want to keep watching it. Yeah, me too I'm going to see what. Uh, I think it's got some good potential. The, the what you got some got any goofs for us? Got any, uh, trivia or fan theories, you know? Um, the trivia thing, just I mean again, I'm not gonna go too deep into any of the game stuff because I know we've already talked about a good amount, but um, I just thought it was cool when lucy checks her pit boy, which is the little wrist device she wears um, and she checks it after being chosen to marry, uh, to get married for the vault trial triennial thing, um, it makes a sound buzz and that's the sound that plays whenever you level up in the game oh yeah which I thought was kind of that makes sense.
1:05:10 You would level up when you get married, um and uh, then uh. The other thing I really loved for anyone else who liked Justified the black actor who's going to wake up the ghoul, wake up. Walton Goggins' character is known as Honcho in the show. He's played by McKelty Williamson. Mckelty Williamson played a very intimidating but very loved charismatic, charismatic on-screen character in justified. Um and he makes. He says a line in the show uh, when they're going to wake up the ghoul, he says yeah, my pop worked with him once, which is a reference to mckeulty and walters having worked on justified together which is kind of cool because in justified walton goggins was like a.
1:05:59 he's like a criminal in kentucky and so is mckeulty, but mckeulty's like a, you know, in the holler, kind of like leave us alone criminal moonshiner taking care of the community, and walton goggins is just like terrified of them, like deep terrified respect of them, and it was just kind of cool to like see them kind of have that dynamic again here in the show. But yeah, I'm going to watch it again. I give it a thumb up, you know, we'll see if it turns out pretty good. I've heard some people say that it's a little slow in the beginning but it really picks up in the end And's, I think, really cool to see that.
1:06:40 Um on imdb, the last episode has the highest rating. okay, which is not what you usually see, right, usually you see like the pilot pump up good and then the usually you see what happened with night country I mean, and so that gives me encouragement, that like, uh, it's actually a good series, and I agree too, because one thing I just now thought of was the fact that they they didn't pull out all the stops for the, for the pilot. Like the pilot was, yeah, just an episode of tv that left you just wanting more, and it didn't show you its full potential of what the show could be, and so they might be on to something there without you know dumping, all the tricks on the first episode.
1:07:26 Don't blow the whole load on the pilot and then not be able to follow it up Exactly. Yeah. No, I agree. Also one thing I'll say I don't remember there being nudity. Was there nudity? I don't think so, man butt oh there was some man butt, but otherwise than that, you know, if you're one of those people who want to make sure you're not watching something that your kids are going to walk on and have to explain the birds and the bees there's no nudity. It is very violent though. So probably make sure your kids don't walk it out how violent it is, but it's a lot easier to explain that than the birds and the bees sometimes. Anyways, with that, I hope you enjoyed this episode of brews and reviews.
1:08:08 First takes of fallout we were lucky enough to have good beer, a good show this time, where that we get both paired up, and so let's hope that a fallout falls through. And, uh, I don't know, should we just say like we'll do a season one recap? Yeah, I think so. All right, cool, all right, I'm good with it. Uh, well, hey, thanks for joining us, ken. Uh, don't forget to tune in to us on youtube or any of the other podcast channels there. It helps us out a lot. When you listen to us on a podcast platform, it goes a lot further than on a YouTube one, but subscribing, liking, commenting on YouTube is the best way to engage with us and have us dialogue back with you.
1:08:50 Check out the website. We just got the store updated and the store's got a lot of stuff listed in there. If there's something that you want listed in the store from our you know, amazon marketplace, let us know and we'll throw it on there. We're pretty much just throwing on stuff that we know people want to buy. Um, I kind of think we should do some kind of like short focused review content on just products that we buy, that we think are worth buying. Yeah, so like I just bought that scope I think, it's worth doing like a 15, 20 minute clip on like is this scope all it's cracked up to be? You know stuff like that yeah because there's two categories that would. This would be like kind of like your high dollar things that you're putting a lot of money into.
1:09:34 You want to know if it's good or not, and then there's also like just like the routine items that make your life easier that you're putting a lot of money into. You want to know if it's good or not, and then there's also just the routine items that make your life easier that you can just have on renew, subscription or whatever, just things that are coming in that you use all the time, use every day, things like that as well. I mean, billy Gene and I were just buying Liquid Death and Espresso K Cups and we just buy it through our website, get some kickback. But anyways, thanks for listening, ken and Pat, you got anything for him? Till next time.
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